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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?


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He's quite expensive in terms of wages and will need a key role in the team, Zlatan is not the one to warm the bench. There aren't many top clubs who could afford his salary who are in desperate need of a new striker.

How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands? Everyone seems to be an expert on what Ibra wants. Apparently he wants to play in England, wants to join up with Mourinho, won't play for less than £250K and has no problem playing against Midtjylland in the Europa. Maybe that's all true but it's bloody convenient for posters on a United forum.

How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands and play for Arsenal? 2nd in the league, Champions League football and London.
 
I'm basing the lack of interest from others on media reports. This whole thread is based on media reports as is the potential move to United. So I think that's fair.

If he is a Cantona like 50 goal a season striker then other clubs would be interested. Doesn't matter what they need, there's only about 4 of those players in existence. You go for them. Especially on a free.

The idea that nobody can match what United are offering is crazy. If other clubs were seriously interested of course they could match and exceed what we have. We've just finished fifth, play terrible football and can only offer him Europa football. This in possibly the last year of his career. I also very much doubt he has a burning desire to live in Alderley Edge.
Chelsea and Arsenal were linked with him. Jose knew he was getting the United job since January so Zlatan was probably convinced to join United months ago. That would account for lack of reported approaches from other clubs.
Dont forget he is on a fecking free.
Only Madrid were linked with Ronaldo when he moved and only Barca were linked with Suarez when he moved. Doesn't mean other clubs weren't interested.
 
How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands? Everyone seems to be an expert on what Ibra wants. Apparently he wants to play in England, wants to join up with Mourinho, won't play for less than £250K and has no problem playing against Midtjylland in the Europa. Maybe that's all true but it's bloody convenient for posters on a United forum.
And you also seem to be an expert. Maybe because he has said he wants to play in England?! You know, we might watch Zlatan and follow him a bit more than some here who has an agenda against him for some reason, like you who keep on every fecking day about how against signing him you are.
 
Only Madrid were linked with Ronaldo when he moved and only Barca were linked with Suarez when he moved. Doesn't mean other ckubs weren't interested.
Nah, Ronaldo and Suarez must be shite though as they were not linked to any more clubs.. Logic on here.
 
How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands? Everyone seems to be an expert on what Ibra wants. Apparently he wants to play in England, wants to join up with Mourinho, won't play for less than £250K and has no problem playing against Midtjylland in the Europa. Maybe that's all true but it's bloody convenient for posters on a United forum.

How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands and play for Arsenal? 2nd in the league, Champions League football and London.

Why would he lower his demands when he can get what he wants from a very good team managed by a manager he likes?

He's been playing Champions League football for over a decade. He can live without it.
 
And you also seem to be an expert. Maybe because he has said he wants to play in England?! You know, we might watch Zlatan and follow him a bit more than some here who has an agenda against him for some reason, like you who keep on every fecking day about how against signing him you are.

Ah spare me the agenda nonsense.
 
Ah spare me the agenda nonsense.
Going through your posts in this thread, there must be something he's done to you. You play down his career every day.

That said, you are easier to debate with than Twigginater who think Rashford is better than Ibra.
 
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Going through your posts in this thread, there must be something he's done to you. You play down his career every day.

This is the modern version of debate. If you're against something there must be a sinister note behind the reasoning. It's not possible to simply dislike an idea. Though I agree I have possibly overposted here.

If you want to start using terms like agenda then I'm not really interested in debating with you. You'll be rolling out hater next. Nothing personal but I've just got zero patience for that type of stuff.

If you look at most of my posts they don't criticise Ibra as such. I've mainly posted counter arguments to what I see as illogical reasoning from yourself and others.
 
This is the modern version of debate. If you're against something there must be a sinister note behind the reasoning. It's not possible to simply dislike an idea.

If you want to start using terms like agenda then I'm not really interested in debating with you. You'll be rolling out hater next.

If you look at most of my posts they don't criticise Ibra as such. I've mainly posted counter arguments to what I see as illogical reasoning from yourself and others.
Who would you see in United shirt instead of Ibra ?

(No sinister agenda, just normal question about alternative for current transfer target)
 
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This is the modern version of debate. If you're against something there must be a sinister note behind the reasoning. It's not possible to simply dislike an idea. Though I agree I have possibly overposted here.

If you want to start using terms like agenda then I'm not really interested in debating with you. You'll be rolling out hater next. Nothing personal but I've just got zero patience for that type of stuff.

If you look at most of my posts they don't criticise Ibra as such. I've mainly posted counter arguments to what I see as illogical reasoning from yourself and others.
You use his CL stats, and while you have a point in a few seasons look at his stats since 2010/11 in CL. And he's a much better player now than in 2010.

2010/11: 8 games: 4 goals+0 assists
2011/12: 8 games: 5+4
2012/13: 9 games: 3+7
2013/14: 8 games: 10+0
2014/15: 6 games: 2+1
2015/16: 10 games: 5+3

It's not too bad I don't think apart from two/three? of those seasons.

And the age thing. I think it's perfect, he plays here for 2 seasons and then Rasford take over as first choice. Or my hope is to see Martial-Ibra-Rashford in a three man attack with the pace of the two youngsters and Zlatan's fantastic vision, strength, goal scoring to name a few.

Sorry for the agenda thing. Twigg has it though ;)
 
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I´d prefer to sign another player for the right wing as well. Rashford will still get plenty of chances to play.

Someone left-footed to play as an inverted winger? Someone exciting? Someone in their prime? Someone creative and fast? Oh wait.. :(
 
You use his CL stats, and while you have a point in a few seasons look at his stats since 2010/11 in CL. And he's a much better player now than in 2010.

2010/11: 8 games: 4 goals+0 assists
2011/12: 8 games: 5+4
2012/13: 9 games: 3+7
2013/14: 8 games: 10+0
2014/15: 6 games: 2+1
2015/16: 10 games: 5+3

It's not too bad I don't think apart from two/three? of those seasons.

And the age thing. I think it's perfect, he plays here for 2 seasons and then Rasford take over as first choice. Or my hope is to see Martial-Ibra-Rashford in a three man attack with the pace of the two youngsters and Zlatan's fantastic vision, strength, goal scoring to name a few.

Sorry for the agenda thing. Twigg has it though ;)

Time to sit back and let this unfold I think.
 
Completely astonishing how any United fans could be displeased by this signing. The man is an absolute phenomenon of durability and on top of that, as any coach he's ever had told us, a super hard worker and training monster. No player his height comes even close to his ball controlling and technical ability. Add to that his massive strength and that shot... what else could you ask more from a striker?

He's the one that holds an otherwise still a bit underwhelming (if individually superior to anything else in todays Ligue 1) team together and makes them perform. And he's been doing the same thing in his unique way at every club he's played for bar the Barcelona fiasko.

Asking whether he'll be able to perform against physical defenders crowding and trying to muscling him is like asking: "Will Ibrahimovic be able to perform when his opponents play the same way they've played him for a decade now?"

I'll be shocked if he doesn't score at least 20 next season for you.
 
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Completely astonishing how any United fans could be displeased by this signing. The man is an absolute phenomenon of durability and on top of that, as any coach he ever has told us, a super hard worker and training monster. No player his height comes even close to his ball controlling and technical ability. Add to that his massive strength and that shot... what else could you ask more from a striker?

He's the one that holds an otherwise still a bit underwhelming (if individually superior to anything else in todays Ligue 1) team together and makes them perform. And he's been doing the same thing in his unique way at every club he's played for bar the Barcelona fiasko.

Asking whether he'll be able to perform against physical defenders crowding and trying to muscling him is like asking: "Will Ibrahimovic be able to perform when his opponents play the same way they've played him for a decade now?"

I'll be shocked if he doesn't score at least 20 next season for you.

Good post. I think he can get about 30 in all comps which will more or less instantly put us into league contention.
 
#WeekOfZlatan | Why Zlatan Ibrahimovic is PSG’s best ever player
“I came like a king, left like a legend” nine words that will forever be remembered by every PSG fan and words that will further strengthen the legacy of arguably the greatest player to ever grace Ligue 1.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a phenomenon, a global superstar and one of the most decorated players to ever play the game. 11 league titles, 9 national cups, a UEFA Super Cup and a FIFA Club World Cup, spanning over 15 years and in 4 countries, tells its own story.

Whilst many expected Zlatan’s exit from Paris this summer, nothing prepared any Paris Saint-Germain fan for the realisation when the confirmation was made on the player’s official Facebook and Twitter pages two weeks ago.

Fans of PSG flocked to social media to pay tribute to the man who had given so much joy to the city of Paris in his four year spell.

The tributes were led by PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi who said “He has been there for me and the club when we have needed him, not only on the pitch. With the other players, the coaches, the fans and the media. He will always be in our hearts. Zlatan is part of the family”.

The announcement also sparked a scramble for last minute tickets for PSG’s final home game against Nantes the following evening.

40,000 free Zlatan masks were distributed outside the ground on the night, a guard of honour for the striker and a stoppage in the game in the 10th minute to a chorus of applause by PSG’s biggest ever Ligue 1 home attendance.

This goes some way to understanding the appreciation of the Parisian faithful to the giant Swede. This was unprecedented and something that had never happened before in France for a player.

PSG’s marketing team also got in on the act as within hours of Zlatan’s announcement a t-shirt was designed with Zlatan’s famous last quote which will go on sale later this month.

This is the measure of the man, Zlatan is a box office attraction, a headliner, a man who is incredibly confident of his capabilities and not afraid to deviate from what is perceived as normal.

Wherever he has played he has entertained the fans with some breath taking moments and an array of wonderful goals. He’s a player that opposing fans love to hate but also one that commands respect for the incredible moments he can create.

Eyebrows were initially raised in 2012 when Paris Saint-Germain swooped to sign the striker from AC Milan. This was a player who had won titles at some of the world’s biggest clubs including Juventus, Inter Milan and FC Barcelona and had just performed for Sweden at Euro 2012.

Ibrahimovic’s signature wasn’t just a huge signing for PSG, it was a victory for Ligue 1. A league devoid of ready-made world-class superstars, had lured one of the world biggest stars in football and more impressively, the striker was still only 30 years of age and in the peak of his career.

Zlatan scored two on his debut against Lorient which set the tone for a wonderful four years in Paris with a batch of incredible goals including his free-kick in a 2-2 draw at Marseille and not forgetting ‘that’ backheel against Bastia at the Parc des Princes in 2013 which won the Ligue 1 goal of the year in that season.

His strength, power and agility for a man who is 6’3’’ tall and with a languid playing style was outstanding. His touch was sublime at times and this improved year after year in Ligue 1.

Ibrahimovic has beaten every record he has been faced with in Ligue 1. He finished as top scorer in 3 of the 4 seasons spent in France scoring an incredible total of 113 goals in just 122 Ligue 1 games. He was named Ligue 1 player of the year in 3 of his 4 years in France and was selected in the Ligue 1 team of the year on 4 separate occasions.

It hasn’t just been the Swede’s goals that have been the standout statistic, the striker’s creativity in the final third has contributed to 13 assists to add to his 38 league goals in a record season in the French capital this season with PSG scoring 102 goals in Ligue 1.

Ibrahimovic’s only regret would be not winning the Champions League with PSG – a team who he rates as the best he has ever played in. That night at the Etihad Stadium in April will still be tinged in sadness and disappointment for Zlatan and his teammates.

The Swede has been the catalyst behind the growth of PSG on the field and has undoubtedly helped attract a brand new fan base around the world ranging from shirt sales to the inauguration of PSG fan clubs in major cities across the globe.

He has been the face of the club, the talisman and arguably the most important signing in PSG’s history.

In truth, it will not be just the fans that will feel the void left by the Swede, television broadcasters and journalists in France may find they have a little less to discuss such has been the impact of Zlatan over the last four years.

He has divided opinion at times but one thing that almost fan of Ligue 1 can agree on is that Zlatan has undoubtedly enhanced French football and helped to grow the interest in the league with Ligue 1 games now being broadcast in more countries around the globe than ever before.

So how do PSG replace Ibrahimovic? The simple answer is there is no like for like replacement. There are very few strikers past or present in world football who can score and create with such ease and post the impressive statistics that the Swede can boast.

But the same questions were asked when Pedro Miguel Pauleta played his last game for PSG in 2008. The capital club will move forward, the project is too big and too ambitious not to.

PSG may need to play a different style and formation to accommodate any incoming players and others within the squad, notably Cavani and Lucas, will now have the chance to come out of Zlatan’s shadow.

It won’t be easy, as there are some big boots to fill and there’s no doubt that Zlatan’s absence will be felt over the next year as PSG try to come to terms with losing their main man.

Is Zlatan Ibrahimovic PSG’s greatest ever player? Absolutely. He has helped to revolutionise PSG and create a new spotlight on French football as a whole. He has given Ligue 1 so many wonderful moments and helped to sell out stadiums all over France.

Zlatan has become a role model to so many people and helped to inspire the next generation. As sad as it will be to see Zlatan move on, the time is probably right for him to go. He has achieved everything there is to win in France on multiple occasions and it seems that a new challenge is what the player and his family need at this time.

No player has made such an impact in such little time as Ibrahimovic and there is no doubt that Ligue 1 will be a poorer league for not having the Swede in it. Even at 34 years old he still has so much to offer his next club.


To use a quote from the great man “I’m only just warming up. Age is just a number. The difference is how you feel. I feel young, I feel very young”.

Thank you Zlatan.


Lee Davey


Source: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...-zlatan-ibrahimovic-is-psgs-best-ever-player/
 
Just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet: Since the 2001/02 season, the six teams Ibrahimovic played for only failed to win their league TWICE (!): 02/03 with Ajax and 11/12 with Milan. That's 13 out of 15 titles... god damn.

Also, he's the perfect mercenary: He always tends to leave for greener pastures after a couple of years but never (bar Barca, again) on bad terms, but remembered for his quality, dedication and persona. I'd sign him in a heartbeat.
 
He's nothing like Larsson though. So a silly comparison.
He's a Swedish striker who looks nothing like a stereotypical Swede. How is he not like Larsson?

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Just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet: Since the 2001/02 season, the six teams Ibrahimovic played for only failed to win their league TWICE (!): 02/03 with Ajax and 11/12 with Milan. That's 13 out of 15 titles... god damn.

Also, he's the perfect mercenary: He always tends to leave for greener pastures after a couple of years but never (bar Barca, again) on bad terms, but remembered for his quality, dedication and persona. I'd sign him in a heartbeat.

He also has a knack for leaving the summer before his team lifts the CL. Might put a wad on PSG to win it next season :)
 
He also has a knack for leaving the summer before his team lifts the CL. Might put a wad on PSG to win it next season :)

He's lige a swaggy Bagger Vance: He comes down to help mortals achieve greatness.
 
Was he really that bad at Ajax?

His last season was good and promising. That is why, Capello (Juventus) recruited him.
In Ligue 1.... Depay had amazing stats too last season!

I am not saying he's overrated , but backing up with ligue 1's stats is not a good argument...

The French league is better than the Dutch one. For instance, Karim Rekik (champion in 2015 with PSV Eindhoven) joined Marseille and there is a consensus here to say he is a weak defender.
No player who plays for PSG has got close either.

He was the Super Star on & off the pitch.
He has absolutely no resale value at all. For me that's a red line.

No resale value but no transfer fee.
Ridiculous amount of money. But then again the last 4 days have been ridiculous so why not continue the theme?

No transfer fee generally means high salary package or signing bonus whatever the quality of the player.
How can you not want Ibra?!?! We have been moaning that the football being played isn't entertaining enough, we sign one of the best players in football that is massively entertaining and people complain saying he costs too much. You are meant to enjoy football not worry about the clubs financial state. I'm sure people inside the club have a much better knowledge of the clubs finances and if they are fine with paying that much why does it bother you?

Good post
 
Oh really? Did you even watch a young Rooney play?
Ever so sorry if you don't agree, mais c'est la vie - I was referring to when Rooney first played For Everton at 16 and when he signed for United at 18. Would have thought that was fairly obvious what I was referring to, if you don't agree with my opinion/comparison, fine, but don't be a smartass about it.
 
- Team lacks courage, goals, leadership and swagger

- Zlatan becomes available on a free transfer

- caf does not want.

= Caflogixx
 
Ramadan will probably take it's toll on him at the beginning, but I hope not.
 
Someone left-footed to play as an inverted winger? Someone exciting? Someone in their prime? Someone creative and fast? Oh wait.. :(


Also someone who actually is keen on playing here.... or maybe LVG beat that out of him, we'll never know.
 
I don't understand why we'd want to sign a player who'll be 50 in 16 years time.

I didn't realise he was 53, I'm having doubts now.

I love Zlatan i would absolutley take him in a hartbeat to United, but like pointed out the only concern is his age. 34 is not very young, and he will be 37 next year.
There is no question what so ever about his ability thought, and he keeps very fit for a 39 year old.
And if its any truth in the rumors about him playing a part with the coaching too, that would be great. Zlatan is the same age as Giggs, so he got alot of experience.
Then maybe after 5 years, he will take over United after Mourinho. As Zlatan will be as old as Mourinho is now it seems like the natural thing to do.

So i am all for it. Even with the high salary and the fact that we probably will have to pay for his funural and tombstone to.

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Doesn't he have "only God can judge"

Granted "god" isn't default Christianity but never heard it used by a Muslim.

There is god in Adnan's post.:confused:

Edit: Sorry, I misunderstood you.
 
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Doesn't he have "only God can judge"

Granted "god" isn't default Christianity but never heard it used by a Muslim.
Not sure, but his surname is Islamic and when his brother passed away Ibra gave him a Islamic burial. His father was a Muslim from Bosnia.
 
He has "ABDULLA" tattoed on his shoulder which means "servant of Allah" in Arabic.
if you read his book, his father is a Bosnian Muslim and his mum is a Croatian Catholic, I think he says something along the lines of he hates all the problems caused by religion/ethnic divides in the former Yugoslavia so he has a foot in both camps, or words to that effect, and he is influenced by both backgrounds.
 
He said in an interview that he was catholic but in another that he is Zlatan and that he is free. Don't think he is very religious at all. The Abdulla tattoo was to raise awareness to victims of starvation iirc.
 
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