How many strikers who were 35 have been as good as Ibrahimovic is now? I can't think of any.He turns 35 in October.. how many strikers aged 35 who have never played in the PL moved here at that age and did well?
How many strikers who were 35 have been as good as Ibrahimovic is now? I can't think of any.He turns 35 in October.. how many strikers aged 35 who have never played in the PL moved here at that age and did well?
He's quite expensive in terms of wages and will need a key role in the team, Zlatan is not the one to warm the bench. There aren't many top clubs who could afford his salary who are in desperate need of a new striker.
Chelsea and Arsenal were linked with him. Jose knew he was getting the United job since January so Zlatan was probably convinced to join United months ago. That would account for lack of reported approaches from other clubs.I'm basing the lack of interest from others on media reports. This whole thread is based on media reports as is the potential move to United. So I think that's fair.
If he is a Cantona like 50 goal a season striker then other clubs would be interested. Doesn't matter what they need, there's only about 4 of those players in existence. You go for them. Especially on a free.
The idea that nobody can match what United are offering is crazy. If other clubs were seriously interested of course they could match and exceed what we have. We've just finished fifth, play terrible football and can only offer him Europa football. This in possibly the last year of his career. I also very much doubt he has a burning desire to live in Alderley Edge.
And you also seem to be an expert. Maybe because he has said he wants to play in England?! You know, we might watch Zlatan and follow him a bit more than some here who has an agenda against him for some reason, like you who keep on every fecking day about how against signing him you are.How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands? Everyone seems to be an expert on what Ibra wants. Apparently he wants to play in England, wants to join up with Mourinho, won't play for less than £250K and has no problem playing against Midtjylland in the Europa. Maybe that's all true but it's bloody convenient for posters on a United forum.
Nah, Ronaldo and Suarez must be shite though as they were not linked to any more clubs.. Logic on here.Only Madrid were linked with Ronaldo when he moved and only Barca were linked with Suarez when he moved. Doesn't mean other ckubs weren't interested.
How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands? Everyone seems to be an expert on what Ibra wants. Apparently he wants to play in England, wants to join up with Mourinho, won't play for less than £250K and has no problem playing against Midtjylland in the Europa. Maybe that's all true but it's bloody convenient for posters on a United forum.
How do we know he's not willing to lower his wage demands and play for Arsenal? 2nd in the league, Champions League football and London.
And you also seem to be an expert. Maybe because he has said he wants to play in England?! You know, we might watch Zlatan and follow him a bit more than some here who has an agenda against him for some reason, like you who keep on every fecking day about how against signing him you are.
Going through your posts in this thread, there must be something he's done to you. You play down his career every day.Ah spare me the agenda nonsense.
Going through your posts in this thread, there must be something he's done to you. You play down his career every day.
Who would you see in United shirt instead of Ibra ?This is the modern version of debate. If you're against something there must be a sinister note behind the reasoning. It's not possible to simply dislike an idea.
If you want to start using terms like agenda then I'm not really interested in debating with you. You'll be rolling out hater next.
If you look at most of my posts they don't criticise Ibra as such. I've mainly posted counter arguments to what I see as illogical reasoning from yourself and others.
You use his CL stats, and while you have a point in a few seasons look at his stats since 2010/11 in CL. And he's a much better player now than in 2010.This is the modern version of debate. If you're against something there must be a sinister note behind the reasoning. It's not possible to simply dislike an idea. Though I agree I have possibly overposted here.
If you want to start using terms like agenda then I'm not really interested in debating with you. You'll be rolling out hater next. Nothing personal but I've just got zero patience for that type of stuff.
If you look at most of my posts they don't criticise Ibra as such. I've mainly posted counter arguments to what I see as illogical reasoning from yourself and others.
I´d prefer to sign another player for the right wing as well. Rashford will still get plenty of chances to play.
You use his CL stats, and while you have a point in a few seasons look at his stats since 2010/11 in CL. And he's a much better player now than in 2010.
2010/11: 8 games: 4 goals+0 assists
2011/12: 8 games: 5+4
2012/13: 9 games: 3+7
2013/14: 8 games: 10+0
2014/15: 6 games: 2+1
2015/16: 10 games: 5+3
It's not too bad I don't think apart from two/three? of those seasons.
And the age thing. I think it's perfect, he plays here for 2 seasons and then Rasford take over as first choice. Or my hope is to see Martial-Ibra-Rashford in a three man attack with the pace of the two youngsters and Zlatan's fantastic vision, strength, goal scoring to name a few.
Sorry for the agenda thing. Twigg has it though
Completely astonishing how any United fans could be displeased by this signing. The man is an absolute phenomenon of durability and on top of that, as any coach he ever has told us, a super hard worker and training monster. No player his height comes even close to his ball controlling and technical ability. Add to that his massive strength and that shot... what else could you ask more from a striker?
He's the one that holds an otherwise still a bit underwhelming (if individually superior to anything else in todays Ligue 1) team together and makes them perform. And he's been doing the same thing in his unique way at every club he's played for bar the Barcelona fiasko.
Asking whether he'll be able to perform against physical defenders crowding and trying to muscling him is like asking: "Will Ibrahimovic be able to perform when his opponents play the same way they've played him for a decade now?"
I'll be shocked if he doesn't score at least 20 next season for you.
He's a Swedish striker who looks nothing like a stereotypical Swede. How is he not like Larsson?He's nothing like Larsson though. So a silly comparison.
Just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet: Since the 2001/02 season, the six teams Ibrahimovic played for only failed to win their league TWICE (!): 02/03 with Ajax and 11/12 with Milan. That's 13 out of 15 titles... god damn.
Also, he's the perfect mercenary: He always tends to leave for greener pastures after a couple of years but never (bar Barca, again) on bad terms, but remembered for his quality, dedication and persona. I'd sign him in a heartbeat.
He also has a knack for leaving the summer before his team lifts the CL. Might put a wad on PSG to win it next season
Was he really that bad at Ajax?
In Ligue 1.... Depay had amazing stats too last season!
I am not saying he's overrated , but backing up with ligue 1's stats is not a good argument...
No player who plays for PSG has got close either.
He has absolutely no resale value at all. For me that's a red line.
Ridiculous amount of money. But then again the last 4 days have been ridiculous so why not continue the theme?
How can you not want Ibra?!?! We have been moaning that the football being played isn't entertaining enough, we sign one of the best players in football that is massively entertaining and people complain saying he costs too much. You are meant to enjoy football not worry about the clubs financial state. I'm sure people inside the club have a much better knowledge of the clubs finances and if they are fine with paying that much why does it bother you?
Ever so sorry if you don't agree, mais c'est la vie - I was referring to when Rooney first played For Everton at 16 and when he signed for United at 18. Would have thought that was fairly obvious what I was referring to, if you don't agree with my opinion/comparison, fine, but don't be a smartass about it.Oh really? Did you even watch a young Rooney play?
70% do, there's just a very vocal minority.- Team lacks courage, goals, leadership and swagger
- Zlatan becomes available on a free transfer
- caf does not want.
= Caflogixx
Ramadan will probably take it's toll on him at the beginning, but I hope not.
Someone left-footed to play as an inverted winger? Someone exciting? Someone in their prime? Someone creative and fast? Oh wait..
He has "ABDULLA" tattoed on his shoulder which means "servant of Allah" in Arabic.He is catholic if he's religious at all.
I don't understand why we'd want to sign a player who'll be 50 in 16 years time.
I didn't realise he was 53, I'm having doubts now.
I love Zlatan i would absolutley take him in a hartbeat to United, but like pointed out the only concern is his age. 34 is not very young, and he will be 37 next year.
There is no question what so ever about his ability thought, and he keeps very fit for a 39 year old.
And if its any truth in the rumors about him playing a part with the coaching too, that would be great. Zlatan is the same age as Giggs, so he got alot of experience.
Then maybe after 5 years, he will take over United after Mourinho. As Zlatan will be as old as Mourinho is now it seems like the natural thing to do.
So i am all for it. Even with the high salary and the fact that we probably will have to pay for his funural and tombstone to.
He has "ABDULLA" tattoed on his shoulder which means "servant of Allah" in Arabic.
Doesn't he have "only God can judge"
Granted "god" isn't default Christianity but never heard it used by a Muslim.
Not sure, but his surname is Islamic and when his brother passed away Ibra gave him a Islamic burial. His father was a Muslim from Bosnia.Doesn't he have "only God can judge"
Granted "god" isn't default Christianity but never heard it used by a Muslim.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...-som-oroar-zlatan-1.985463&edit-text=&act=urlI believe in God. I am a Catholic.
if you read his book, his father is a Bosnian Muslim and his mum is a Croatian Catholic, I think he says something along the lines of he hates all the problems caused by religion/ethnic divides in the former Yugoslavia so he has a foot in both camps, or words to that effect, and he is influenced by both backgrounds.He has "ABDULLA" tattoed on his shoulder which means "servant of Allah" in Arabic.
In Ligue 1.... Depay had amazing stats too last season!
I am not saying he's overrated , but backing up with ligue 1's stats is not a good argument...
- Team lacks courage, goals, leadership and swagger
- Zlatan becomes available on a free transfer
- caf does not want.
= Caflogixx