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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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JPRouve said:
Widely regarded as overrated.:confused:
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Not now obviously but a few years back yeah. There was a particular suspicion that he couldn't do it against English opponents. Then came the game against England and the scissor kick. I didn't agree with it at the time but it was a pretty commonly held opinion.
 
RDCR07 said:
I never argued because he can scores goals for us. I didn't want him because of that. He is free. That's the first reason. Second reason is his impact on the squad.
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And impact on every team he has been playing for. He's a winner, simple as that.
 
Dobbs said:
Not now obviously but a few years back yeah. There was a particular suspicion that he couldn't do it against English opponents. I didn't agree with it at the time but it was pretty commonly held opinion.
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I apologize in advance, but only the most imbecile people around can come with that type of "suspicions", that is one the most idiotic thing you can read in football and weirdly it always comes from England.
 
He would be a fantastic addition and also be an ideal teacher to Rashford and Martial.
 
RDCR07 said:
Firstly Zlatan hasn't been terrible in the UCL but why does that matter? We aren't in the Champions League.
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Right, his job is to win the league. And his record states he is the best in the business.
 
Ibra is a magnificent striker and he certainly took good care of himself. However at 34 years of age I wonder if he can cut it in the EPL. I can't remember one striker who did that (ie no prior EPL experience) and some ended up in misery (Sheva, Falcao etc). He's also a prima donna and we haven't had a successful striker like that since Eric Cantona. To make matters worse we've already got a 'leader' upfront in Wayne Rooney

Don't take me wrong I am not against the deal. There's plenty of advantages in it too

a- signing a high profile striker will show the world we mean business
b- Ibra will be a great role model for Rashford and co
c- Ibra takes pressure from other players (ex Martial)

However lets not think that this is a perfect signing because it isnt;
 
JPRouve said:
I apologize in advance, but only the most imbecile people around can come with that type of "suspicions", that is one the most idiotic thing you can read in football and weirdly it always comes from England.
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Well I didn't agree with it like I said but his record against English teams was almost non existent. It was just plucked from nowhere. In any case I was only arguing that sometimes the widely held opinion can be wrong.

We'll see about all this soon anyway(if the reports are correct.)
 
Kingsley Coman about Zlatan Ibrahimovic

'My relationship with Ibrahimovic was completely neutral,' Coman told Kicker.

'He is not the type of player to approach the younger players and give them advice.

'He only cares about himself.'

So forget the "ideal teacher" for Rashford and Martial. Maybe in superstar attitude...
 
RDCR07 said:
Firstly Zlatan hasn't been terrible in the UCL but why does that matter? We aren't in the Champions League.
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I remember an old Lippi interview following a friendly game between Juventus and Manchester United. The class of 92 were at their very beginning and Juventus had a squad capable of smashing anybody. Anyway, despite all our effort the game was pretty much one sided. Juventus barely allowed us to keep the ball and we ended up losing. After the game, Lippi was asked about United and he said that playing against us was pretty simple. You only have to mark Giggs and Cantona out of the game and that's it.

At that point I understood that we would never win the CL with Cantona in the team. The reason was that Cantona was such an imposing and influential figure that no matter how good our players were, at one point the ball must end up to him. He was the focal point of our team, which is quite extraordinary for a team filled with strong characters (Keane, Irwin, Schmeichel and co) but which also made us predictable. Guess what I was right. After Cantona the team was able to reach heights we never reached before. Keane transformed from some thug into a fabulous captain, the class of 92 stood up to be counted etc.

Ibra has that Cantona's presence, that inspiring figure that will dominate the scene. However while there's no doubt that he's an exceptional talent I doubt we'll be able to win the CL with him. He'll help us build that team but he wouldnt enter the promised land himself
 
devilish said:
Ibra has that Cantona's presence, that inspiring figure that will dominate the scene. However while there's no doubt that he's an exceptional talent I doubt we'll be able to win the CL with him. He'll help us build that team but he wouldnt enter the promised land himself
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I would be happy with winning the league title, like he's done every season since 2007 expect four years ago. Also won the title with Juve in 05 and 06 but that was taken away because of the Moggi stuff. Won the title at Ajax as well.
 
Dobbs said:
Well I didn't agree with it like I said but his record against English teams was almost non existent. It was just plucked from nowhere. In any case I was only arguing that sometimes the widely held opinion can be wrong.

We'll see about all this soon anyway(if the reports are correct.)
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Inter Milan were almost always underdogs against english teams, he joined Milan when they weren't great and he made them relevant again. Unlike the players he is compared with, Ibrahimovic has never played for the best team in Europe at the exception of one season at Barcelona and two seasons at Juventus, the rest of his career is the story of a man lifting his team way above its level.
 
Sultan said:
No idea, really.

I'm hoping for a right winger, striker, central defender, and a midfielder who can add some goals from the middle.
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Reason I ask is I think we'll now see a genuine shift is our transfer business. I hate the word Galactico, but you have to pay serious fee's for top 10 world players. And now we're about to appoint a 'top gun' as manager, I think he needs to be properly equipped to do his job.

So according to your list, that means trying to get: Bale or Mahrez, Ibra or Auyumberg, Stones or Laporte and Pogba or Gundogen. Thats the bracket we should be aiming at and somehow the club has to make it happen!
 
JPRouve said:
Inter Milan were almost always underdogs against english teams, he joined Milan when they weren't great and he made them relevant again. Unlike the players he is compared with, Ibrahimovic has never played for the best team in Europe at the exception of one season at Barcelona and two seasons at Juventus, the rest of his career is the story of a man lifting his team way above its level.
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I cant remember if this has changed recently but Messi went years without even scoring a goal v an Italian side. I'll bet nobody in Italy called him overrated because of that.
 
devilish said:
Ibra is a magnificent striker and he certainly took good care of himself. However at 34 years of age I wonder if he can cut it in the EPL. I can't remember one striker who did that (ie no prior EPL experience) and some ended up in misery (Sheva, Falcao etc). He's also a prima donna and we haven't had a successful striker like that since Eric Cantona. To make matters worse we've already got a 'leader' upfront in Wayne Rooney

Don't take me wrong I am not against the deal. There's plenty of advantages in it too

a- signing a high profile striker will show the world we mean business
b- Ibra will be a great role model for Rashford and co
c- Ibra takes pressure from other players (ex Martial)

However lets not think that this is a perfect signing because it isnt;
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I agree, but it is most likely the best we can do.

Kane is probably unavailable and Aubameyang might be Madrid-bound and would cost 60m. Zlatan's age means that he won't hamper Rashford's development.
 
cyberman said:
I cant remember if this has changed recently but Messi went years without even scoring a goal v an Italian side. I'll bet nobody in Italy called him overrated because of that.
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I knew that one of the Barca boys was in that situation, I had Suarez in mind but he scored against Roma iirc. But yeah that's a very strange argument and even the Ligue 1 argument is weak, Giroud is scoring goals in PL, Ibrahimovic is infinitely better than Giroud.
 
sammsky1 said:
Reason I ask is I think we'll now see a genuine shift is our transfer business. I hate the word Galactico, but you have to pay serious fee's for top 10 world players. And now we're about to appoint a 'top gun' as manager, I think he needs to be properly equipped to do his job.

So according to your list, that means trying to get: Bale or Mahrez, Ibra or Auyumberg, Stones or Laporte and Pogba or Gundogen. Thats the bracket we should be aiming at and somehow the club has to make it happen!
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Ibra, Pogba, Varane, and Mane would be my choice. I don't think Bale, Mahrez, or Auyemberg will be sold. Laporte has a serious injury. Gundogen is expected to sign for City.
 
Some of the posts in here are insane.

People IMO are too caught up with the recent Falcao and Schweini signings. Ibra is nothing like them. He's coming off his best season arguably.

Then the pace arguments. Ibra's faster than Giroud and Giroud's done just fine in this league.

Then the age arguments. Ibra is in excellent shape. Hasn't suffered any injuries lately.

And it's a free signing(yes I know wages will be high). It's a perfect deal for us.
 
devilish said:
I remember an old Lippi interview following a friendly game between Juventus and Manchester United. The class of 92 were at their very beginning and Juventus had a squad capable of smashing anybody. Anyway, despite all our effort the game was pretty much one sided. Juventus barely allowed us to keep the ball and we ended up losing. After the game, Lippi was asked about United and he said that playing against us was pretty simple. You only have to mark Giggs and Cantona out of the game and that's it.

At that point I understood that we would never win the CL with Cantona in the team. The reason was that Cantona was such an imposing and influential figure that no matter how good our players were, at one point the ball must end up to him. He was the focal point of our team, which is quite extraordinary for a team filled with strong characters (Keane, Irwin, Schmeichel and co) but which also made us predictable. Guess what I was right. After Cantona the team was able to reach heights we never reached before. Keane transformed from some thug into a fabulous captain, the class of 92 stood up to be counted etc.

Ibra has that Cantona's presence, that inspiring figure that will dominate the scene. However while there's no doubt that he's an exceptional talent I doubt we'll be able to win the CL with him. He'll help us build that team but he wouldnt enter the promised land himself
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Great. We're not in the fecking Champions League though. We'll win the league if he signs so fecking get him in.
 
devilish said:
I remember an old Lippi interview following a friendly game between Juventus and Manchester United. The class of 92 were at their very beginning and Juventus had a squad capable of smashing anybody. Anyway, despite all our effort the game was pretty much one sided. Juventus barely allowed us to keep the ball and we ended up losing. After the game, Lippi was asked about United and he said that playing against us was pretty simple. You only have to mark Giggs and Cantona out of the game and that's it.

At that point I understood that we would never win the CL with Cantona in the team. The reason was that Cantona was such an imposing and influential figure that no matter how good our players were, at one point the ball must end up to him. He was the focal point of our team, which is quite extraordinary for a team filled with strong characters (Keane, Irwin, Schmeichel and co) but which also made us predictable. Guess what I was right. After Cantona the team was able to reach heights we never reached before. Keane transformed from some thug into a fabulous captain, the class of 92 stood up to be counted etc.

Ibra has that Cantona's presence, that inspiring figure that will dominate the scene. However while there's no doubt that he's an exceptional talent I doubt we'll be able to win the CL with him. He'll help us build that team but he wouldnt enter the promised land himself
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I feel the same way, life is way too easy for his teammates. It's way too easy to rest on his shoulders.
 
Cal? said:
Let's include all the games when Ronaldo was played as a winger just to make his stats look worse.

Anyway, not the place for that argument *again*.
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No let's only pick games he scored in instead of all his games which represent his actual stats (and not his stats "made worse").

Yeah but not the place.
 
unitedbhoy said:
Vardy
Lukaku
Higuain
Milik
Janssen
Ighalo
Gameiro
Slimani
Raffael (Borussia Monchengladbach)
Cavani

I'd rather take a risk on any of these 10 than Ibra - that is how little I think he will contribute to this team.

That list is only of player who I expect to be very attainable. Not to mention 2 option who would fit the bill perfectly - Kane and Aubumeyang. I know they will be almost impossible to get.
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:lol::lol:
 
Blackwidow said:
Kingsley Coman about Zlatan Ibrahimovic

'My relationship with Ibrahimovic was completely neutral,' Coman told Kicker.

'He is not the type of player to approach the younger players and give them advice.

'He only cares about himself.'

So forget the "ideal teacher" for Rashford and Martial. Maybe in superstar attitude...
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Coman played four times for PSG?
 
Blackwidow said:
Kingsley Coman about Zlatan Ibrahimovic

'My relationship with Ibrahimovic was completely neutral,' Coman told Kicker.

'He is not the type of player to approach the younger players and give them advice.

'He only cares about himself.'

So forget the "ideal teacher" for Rashford and Martial. Maybe in superstar attitude...
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Coman only played 3 games with PSG in 2 seasons: he couldn't be considered as a full-time member of the senior squad. The vast majority of the time, he used to train with the reserve. I won't give credit to a player like Coman who feels bitterness

Verratti

'But it's away from it where he plays such an essential role. He's always on hand to help his team-mates and he exerts so much confidence in the team.
'He helps the young players progress. He's there for everyone really.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-team-mate-Marco-Verratti.html#ixzz49VgCEjt7

Some young promising talents like Augustin are also happy to learn from him.
 
look at the number of games we've been unable to score in this season, struggling to even create chances against average also-rans has been the blight of our season.
Ibra may not win us games against the top boys but our record in those games has been fine. Zlatan will however beat up the lower half of the league of that i'm sure and turning those 0-0s into 3pts goes a hell of a long way over the season. There can't honestly be people on here who think he'll struggle against the likes of sunderland, swansea or bournemouth? he'll have a field day. Also, no matter what happens this guy is box office, he practically guarantees slap-my-face moments of brilliance/craziness and i for one am sick of being bored to death watching my club. get him in, pump him up and enjoy the ride
 
He and Jose will toughen the dressing room atmosphere, probably in a way that's for the best.
 
Those who keep banging about the level of French league and how easy it is, answer this then, why hasn't any other player scored as many goals as him if it is that easy ??

Also, our best attacker this season came from that very same league. Rashford was playing for the U18s before he made the leap to the PL, if they can handle the mighty PL, why can't Ibra ??

The fact is we need another striker. We can not go into next season with just Rashford as our one option. We saw in the final that one injury to him and we had to play Young up front.
 
This one's pretty much a certainty. He should improve us in the short term. Capable of scoring 20 goals in the league imo. Hopefully, Rashford will be ready to take over from him in a couple of seasons.
 
Ace of Spades said:
Those who keep banging about the level of French league and how easy it is, answer this then, why hasn't any other player scored as many goals as him if it is that easy ??

Also, our best attacker this season came from that very same league. Rashford was playing for the U18s before he made the leap to the PL, if they can handle the mighty PL, why can't Ibra ??

The fact is we need another striker. We can not go into next season with just Rashford as our one option. We saw in the final that one injury to him and we had to play Young up front.
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As advised by LVG, we also have Fellaini :D
 
How many people actually watch him at PSG aside from big European games? Doubt it's many - I don't think you can really write him off (or argue in favour of signing him) unless you're one of the select few who regularly watch French football.
 
It's mad how Ibra and Mourinho get on so much. Thought their personalities would clash. That said, a lot of people felt Rooney and Van Gaal were going to clash, but they were a match made in heaven.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
How many people actually watch him at PSG aside from big European games? Doubt it's many - I don't think you can really write him off (or argue in favour of signing him) unless you're one of the select few who regularly watch French football.
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I do. Feel free to go through my posts. Nothing but love.
 
The Stain said:
Remember so many people saying he was finished before this season started.. And before last season as well. And the season before that too.

I'm confident he has another season at top level in him after this one. Maybe even 2. Hope to see him in the PL but it probably won't happen. :(

Now if we hire Mourinho..
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This was my first post in this thread :D
 
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