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No chance in hell it will be like that. Zlatan is different class. Will be the best signing we have made since de Gea and RvP.Let's hope this doesn't end up like the Falcao fiasco.
No chance in hell it will be like that. Zlatan is different class. Will be the best signing we have made since de Gea and RvP.Let's hope this doesn't end up like the Falcao fiasco.
Let's hope this doesn't end up like the Falcao fiasco.
People complaining about his age need to understand one thing. We are not signing him to score 40-50 goals for us. We don't need him to do that. One reason is he is a striker, still performing at a very high standard, very professional and we are short of options on strikers. We are also getting him on a free. Second, more important reason, is that it will more of a presence of a great player in our squad and the effect he can have on them. It will be a big morale boost for the players playing alongside Zlatan. I would say he will score 15 goals for us. Anything more is just a bonus.
How many in Zlatan's class arrived in the PL at all? Did a striker with 50 club goals ever joined the EPL?How many in Zlatan's class has arrived in the PL at that age?
Zlatan is surely less of a block than signing a striker in his absolute prime. Rashford has been a revelation this season but he's still learning his trade and only even got the chance because we were already woefully short up front.
For a compete freebie (granted his wages are probably obscene) I struggle to think of a signing that makes more sense.
He's the sort of player that would probably have won Arsenal the league this year.
I think it was third. A bit more competitive when he was with Milan and Inter. We beat Mou in the Champions League remember. Zlatan was part of that team.
When he was at Juventus and beginning at Inter it was 2nd, and at worst 3rd. But maybe that's not enough either?
Ligue 1 might be a joke but PSG aren't. Its the same way the Bundesliga is a joke but Bayern are very good. Among the top 4 teams in the world.
Zlatan is surely less of a block than signing a striker in his absolute prime. Rashford has been a revelation this season but he's still learning his trade and only even got the chance because we were already woefully short up front.
For a compete freebie (granted his wages are probably obscene) I struggle to think of a signing that makes more sense.
He's the sort of player that would probably have won Arsenal the league this year.
It was no critics against Zlatan, but a question to Twigginater who said "There has never been an attacking player that old who has come to the Prem and done well"How many in Zlatan's class arrived in the PL at all? Did a striker with 50 club goals ever joined the EPL?
I don't think so. The best forward signings were always unproven or up and comers with at most 20 La Liga goals or 30 from Eredivisie.
Surely it slipped to fourth around the time he joined Milan (post Barcelona).
Either way he's spent most of his career outside the top two leagues..
Everybody's CL record is shit if you compare them to the Ronaldo, even you-know-who.Ronaldo's goals to games ratio in the CL is about the same as in La Liga. Only Zlatan's is dramatically different. This season, the best in Zlatan's entire career so far, Ronaldo has scored 16 CL goals vs. 4 CL golas for Zlatan. Why this difference?
You're making valuable points but you are wasting your time in this thread. It's full with people who think we are signing a player who will destroy PL defences for fun. However, if Mourinho wants Zlatan, then we have to sign him and see what happens. I'm not optimsitic about Zlatan's influence here but Mourinho must know much better than us after all.
That's like you saying no to Lewandoski even though he is banging around 30 goals a year playing for a team that is absolutely dominating the league. He is in a very good team in a shit league. You think he wont do well if he comes here?That's the problem though when analysing his stats or where he's at as a player. He's playing for a very good team that's far better than the league it features in.
Coming to United he'll be in a much tougher league playing for a team that's finished fifth and playing poor football. Even with Mourinho that's unlikely to completely change overnight (unless we go massive in the transfer market....again)
Just completely different scenarios.
Aguero has in 9 games in CL this season 2 goals and 0 assist. He must be shit.Everybody's CL record is shit if you compare them to the Ronaldo, even you-know-who.
Thats the only thing that puzzles me. I mean you look at his record for PSG , why would they let him go?, for free as wellBecause the notion of a player just walking in and taking the captain's armband is ridiculous.
I want Zlatan here, but it is a gamble. He's 34 (I think), and winding down. There's a reason PSG are allowing him a free transfer.
Oh I concur and don't for one second contest any of that.
You're a good poster and I agree with lots of your content. I hope that you're clever enough not to have missed my point either which was aimed at the throwaway line of the "United way". Whatever nonsense that means was hurled at Louis by our boys in the press all season long and chewed on by the papers time and time again. This (nailed on) prospective signing, on paper, would go completely against it (youth, great potential, pace) but it doesn't matter anymore.
This..... for starters.The thing with wages is they can be balanced out by the revenue the player brings in. This is such a no brainer.
What? Zlatan wanted to leave.There's a reason PSG are allowing him a free transfer.
Because the notion of a player just walking in and taking the captain's armband is ridiculous.
I want Zlatan here, but it is a gamble. He's 34 (I think), and winding down. There's a reason PSG are allowing him a free transfer.
We won't lose money?This..... for starters.
Plus, people comparing leagues..... it's not like the Premier League is No.1?
And he scored 5 goals in CL.... ligue un may not be great but he/PSG do ok in Champions League..... better than we do for a start?
Plus, it'll do Rashford good to not have pressure (physical and mental) of leading United's line at 18/19.
Plus, he has a charisma which will be great to watch. Plus, I think Martial/Rashford will learn from him.
We won't lose money and he could score goals.... worse case, he doesn't score many and we say "thanks, bye"
It's a no brainer
.78 goals per game is shit compared to .74?Everybody's CL record is shit if you compare them to the Ronaldo, even you-know-who.
We won't lose money?
It'll cost us about ten million for a year!
No matter who sign you have to pay them. Jeez you keep going on with this salary thing like there is no tomorrow.We won't lose money?
It'll cost us about ten million for a year!
Pretty sure they wanted him to stay....
Zlatan has 5 goals, 3 assists in 10 CL games this season. Hardly shit.Everybody's CL record is shit if you compare them to the Ronaldo, even you-know-who.
Don't forget he's thirty fecking five!No matter who sign you have to pay them. Jeez you keep going on with this salary thing like there is no tomorrow.
Nah, merchandising will kill it.... it's the one thing the Glazers are great at, making money.We won't lose money?
It'll cost us about ten million for a year!
His contract is up and Ibra wants to leave and try somewhere else. If ibra wanted to stay then PSG would've let him
That's about as likely we signing Casillas.I have this strange feeling that City will sign him
Can we compile a list of attacking players who've arrived in the prem above the age of 32 who have done well?
Against the signing because of the factors mentioned previously (poor record against physical teams, mediocre record against top teams, age, the fact he's always opted for slower paced League's), however if it's essentially a year long loan with an option for another then no harm done. Particularly as it may take some of he pressure off Rashford.
My only concern is Zlatan, Rooney & Mata in the same team. I feel we should build a team around the latter, but that doesn't really work with Zlatan (or Rooney).
If it were Rooney out & Zlatan in I'd be much more excited about this. However I can see Rooney and Zlatan wandering around the final third waiting for the ball to come to them on a plate with Martial having to carry the creative burden.
Give us the list and we'll pick and choose who did well.Can we compile a list of attacking players who've arrived in the prem above the age of 32 who have done well?
Remember when we signed a 31yo Teddy Sheringham and everyone was saying how big a mistake it was?, yeah exactlyAfter Falcao??
There has never been an attacking player that old who has come to the Prem and done well. He's thirty five! Don't compare him to Cantona who would have retired five years before when he left United.
Conversely one could say we are signing an experienced, world class striker that has seen it all and one who will take the pressure off the shoulders of Rashford and Martial, allowing them to learn from him whilst the team doesn't suffer from any growing pains they might endure.Funny how the "United way" that people beat Louis with doesn't matter when it comes to signing someone of Zlatan's paper credentials - an aging, slow striker with little teamwork and an immediate block to our developing youth products.
I'm not getting at Zlatan, Jose or anything like that nor am I opposed to the signing itself it's just there's a point to be made about the above and the clear double standards we (fans, club and our pundits) employ.
Shout out the tired cliche when it's not going our way. Forget all about that when it is. Basically Paul Scholes' pundit career in a nutshell.
Martial, Payet, Ayew, Hazard...Yeah he does.
But 35 decidedly isn't the new 30. Footballers seem to be retiring younger and younger if anything. I just can't see how signing Zlatan is a good idea at all. The Ligue Un is a joke.
Can we compile a list of attacking players above the age of 32 that have been top players?
I can't imagine watching our slow paced attack this year and thinking "let's swap out Rashford for Ibra"
Remember when we signed a 31yo Teddy Sheringham and everyone was saying how big a mistake it was?, yeah exactly
Remember when we signed a 31yo Teddy Sheringham and everyone was saying how big a mistake it was?, yeah exactly