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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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Signing one of the best strikers in the world on a free for a year or two to help rashford And martial develop with less pressure on them.... its literally the perfect signing after taking intO account him being a beast physically and so talented and creative on the ball. Also has the ability to score out of nothing. The onlyonly striker options that would be better would be someone like Aguero/Lewandowski/Suarez/Auba... impossible players basically. Cant wait to see him up top for us.
 
GE said:
Let's hope this doesn't end up like the Falcao fiasco.
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He isn't coming off the back of a major injury so one shouldn't expect such a steep decline.
RDCR07 said:
People complaining about his age need to understand one thing. We are not signing him to score 40-50 goals for us. We don't need him to do that. One reason is he is a striker, still performing at a very high standard, very professional and we are short of options on strikers. We are also getting him on a free. Second, more important reason, is that it will more of a presence of a great player in our squad and the effect he can have on them. It will be a big morale boost for the players playing alongside Zlatan. I would say he will score 15 goals for us. Anything more is just a bonus.
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This! A very sensible response especially as Twigginator is acting like we are signing him for £60 million to start every match and get over 40 goals for us.
 
Man-United said:
How many in Zlatan's class has arrived in the PL at that age?
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How many in Zlatan's class arrived in the PL at all? Did a striker with 50 club goals ever joined the EPL?

I don't think so. The best forward signings were always unproven or up and comers with at most 20 La Liga goals or 30 from Eredivisie.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Zlatan is surely less of a block than signing a striker in his absolute prime. Rashford has been a revelation this season but he's still learning his trade and only even got the chance because we were already woefully short up front.

For a compete freebie (granted his wages are probably obscene) I struggle to think of a signing that makes more sense.

He's the sort of player that would probably have won Arsenal the league this year.
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The thing with wages is they can be balanced out by the revenue the player brings in. This is such a no brainer.
 
RDCR07 said:
I think it was third. A bit more competitive when he was with Milan and Inter. We beat Mou in the Champions League remember. Zlatan was part of that team.
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Man-United said:
When he was at Juventus and beginning at Inter it was 2nd, and at worst 3rd. But maybe that's not enough either?
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Surely it slipped to fourth around the time he joined Milan (post Barcelona).

Either way he's spent most of his career outside the top two leagues.

RDCR07 said:
Ligue 1 might be a joke but PSG aren't. Its the same way the Bundesliga is a joke but Bayern are very good. Among the top 4 teams in the world.
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That's the problem though when analysing his stats or where he's at as a player. He's playing for a very good team that's far better than the league it features in.

Coming to United he'll be in a much tougher league playing for a team that's finished fifth and playing poor football. Even with Mourinho that's unlikely to completely change overnight (unless we go massive in the transfer market....again)

Just completely different scenarios.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Zlatan is surely less of a block than signing a striker in his absolute prime. Rashford has been a revelation this season but he's still learning his trade and only even got the chance because we were already woefully short up front.

For a compete freebie (granted his wages are probably obscene) I struggle to think of a signing that makes more sense.

He's the sort of player that would probably have won Arsenal the league this year.
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Oh I concur and don't for one second contest any of that.

You're a good poster and I agree with lots of your content. I hope that you're clever enough not to have missed my point either which was aimed at the throwaway line of the "United way". Whatever nonsense that means was hurled at Louis by our boys in the press all season long and chewed on by the papers time and time again. This (nailed on) prospective signing, on paper, would go completely against it (youth, great potential, pace) but it doesn't matter anymore.
 
BBRBB said:
How many in Zlatan's class arrived in the PL at all? Did a striker with 50 club goals ever joined the EPL?

I don't think so. The best forward signings were always unproven or up and comers with at most 20 La Liga goals or 30 from Eredivisie.
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It was no critics against Zlatan, but a question to Twigginater who said "There has never been an attacking player that old who has come to the Prem and done well"

Zlatan will be a fantastic player here, like he's been at every club he played for.
 
I know he'd be short term signing, I know he's old, I know he can be a dick.

But I'd spaff my pants if we got Ibra. He's still one of the best forwards around.
 
Dobbs said:
Surely it slipped to fourth around the time he joined Milan (post Barcelona).

Either way he's spent most of his career outside the top two leagues..
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No. It was 3rd. It become 4th after he left Milan. Edit: Last season in Italy it was 4th.

Just to be clear, should United never sign a player outside a top 2 league according to you?
 
Treble said:
Ronaldo's goals to games ratio in the CL is about the same as in La Liga. Only Zlatan's is dramatically different. This season, the best in Zlatan's entire career so far, Ronaldo has scored 16 CL goals vs. 4 CL golas for Zlatan. Why this difference?

You're making valuable points but you are wasting your time in this thread. It's full with people who think we are signing a player who will destroy PL defences for fun. However, if Mourinho wants Zlatan, then we have to sign him and see what happens. I'm not optimsitic about Zlatan's influence here but Mourinho must know much better than us after all.
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Everybody's CL record is shit if you compare them to the Ronaldo, even you-know-who.
 
Dobbs said:
That's the problem though when analysing his stats or where he's at as a player. He's playing for a very good team that's far better than the league it features in.

Coming to United he'll be in a much tougher league playing for a team that's finished fifth and playing poor football. Even with Mourinho that's unlikely to completely change overnight (unless we go massive in the transfer market....again)

Just completely different scenarios.
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That's like you saying no to Lewandoski even though he is banging around 30 goals a year playing for a team that is absolutely dominating the league. He is in a very good team in a shit league. You think he wont do well if he comes here?
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
Because the notion of a player just walking in and taking the captain's armband is ridiculous.

I want Zlatan here, but it is a gamble. He's 34 (I think), and winding down. There's a reason PSG are allowing him a free transfer.
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Thats the only thing that puzzles me. I mean you look at his record for PSG , why would they let him go?, for free as well
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Oh I concur and don't for one second contest any of that.

You're a good poster and I agree with lots of your content. I hope that you're clever enough not to have missed my point either which was aimed at the throwaway line of the "United way". Whatever nonsense that means was hurled at Louis by our boys in the press all season long and chewed on by the papers time and time again. This (nailed on) prospective signing, on paper, would go completely against it (youth, great potential, pace) but it doesn't matter anymore.
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The press are incredibly fickle and tbh I pay no mind to what they say about us or anyone else any more. If he scores goals then he'll be a genius signing if not then another sign of our desperation and as you allude to a loss of our core values as a club.

Truth is as far as I can remember we always set the bar for big signings in this league even long before the premiership came along.
 
LuisNaniencia said:
The thing with wages is they can be balanced out by the revenue the player brings in. This is such a no brainer.
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This..... for starters.

Plus, people comparing leagues..... it's not like the Premier League is No.1?

And he scored 5 goals in CL.... ligue un may not be great but he/PSG do ok in Champions League..... better than we do for a start?

Plus, it'll do Rashford good to not have pressure (physical and mental) of leading United's line at 18/19.

Plus, he has a charisma which will be great to watch. Plus, I think Martial/Rashford will learn from him.

We won't lose money and he could score goals.... worse case, he doesn't score many and we say "thanks, bye"

It's a no brainer
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
Because the notion of a player just walking in and taking the captain's armband is ridiculous.

I want Zlatan here, but it is a gamble. He's 34 (I think), and winding down. There's a reason PSG are allowing him a free transfer.
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Pretty sure they wanted him to stay....
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
This..... for starters.

Plus, people comparing leagues..... it's not like the Premier League is No.1?

And he scored 5 goals in CL.... ligue un may not be great but he/PSG do ok in Champions League..... better than we do for a start?

Plus, it'll do Rashford good to not have pressure (physical and mental) of leading United's line at 18/19.

Plus, he has a charisma which will be great to watch. Plus, I think Martial/Rashford will learn from him.

We won't lose money and he could score goals.... worse case, he doesn't score many and we say "thanks, bye"

It's a no brainer
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We won't lose money?

It'll cost us about ten million for a year!
 
Against the signing because of the factors mentioned previously (poor record against physical teams, mediocre record against top teams, age, the fact he's always opted for slower paced League's), however if it's essentially a year long loan with an option for another then no harm done. Particularly as it may take some of the pressure off Rashford.

My only concern is Zlatan, Rooney & Mata in the same team. I feel we should build a team around the latter, but that doesn't really work with Zlatan (and Rooney).

If it were Rooney out & Zlatan in I'd be much more excited about this. However I can see Rooney and Zlatan wandering around the final third waiting for the ball to come to them on a plate with Martial having to carry the creative burden.
 
Twigginater said:
Can we compile a list of attacking players who've arrived in the prem above the age of 32 who have done well?
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Can we compile a list of attacking players who have arrived in the prem above the age of 32 that have been top players?
 
finneh said:
Against the signing because of the factors mentioned previously (poor record against physical teams, mediocre record against top teams, age, the fact he's always opted for slower paced League's), however if it's essentially a year long loan with an option for another then no harm done. Particularly as it may take some of he pressure off Rashford.

My only concern is Zlatan, Rooney & Mata in the same team. I feel we should build a team around the latter, but that doesn't really work with Zlatan (or Rooney).

If it were Rooney out & Zlatan in I'd be much more excited about this. However I can see Rooney and Zlatan wandering around the final third waiting for the ball to come to them on a plate with Martial having to carry the creative burden.
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I can't imagine watching our slow paced attack this year and thinking "let's swap out Rashford for Ibra"
 
Zlatan up top with rashford and martial either side will do wonders, don't know why so many fans are against this idea
 
Twigginater said:
After Falcao??

There has never been an attacking player that old who has come to the Prem and done well. He's thirty five! Don't compare him to Cantona who would have retired five years before when he left United.
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Remember when we signed a 31yo Teddy Sheringham and everyone was saying how big a mistake it was?, yeah exactly
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Funny how the "United way" that people beat Louis with doesn't matter when it comes to signing someone of Zlatan's paper credentials - an aging, slow striker with little teamwork and an immediate block to our developing youth products.

I'm not getting at Zlatan, Jose or anything like that nor am I opposed to the signing itself it's just there's a point to be made about the above and the clear double standards we (fans, club and our pundits) employ.

Shout out the tired cliche when it's not going our way. Forget all about that when it is. Basically Paul Scholes' pundit career in a nutshell.
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Conversely one could say we are signing an experienced, world class striker that has seen it all and one who will take the pressure off the shoulders of Rashford and Martial, allowing them to learn from him whilst the team doesn't suffer from any growing pains they might endure.
 
Cassidy said:
Can we compile a list of attacking players above the age of 32 that have been top players?
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Yeah that's a good idea as well. Let's have a go at that.

Bastian Schweingstiger is still a year too young.

How old was Schevchenko when he arrived in the Prem but couldn't adapt?

Crespo?
 
Twigginater said:
I can't imagine watching our slow paced attack this year and thinking "let's swap out Rashford for Ibra"
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Agreed. As I said if it was Rooney out and say Griezmann & Ibrahimovich in I'd be bouncing off the walls; as I'm sure he will have his uses and along with a versatile, quick forward in their prime it's another option.
 
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