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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?


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Not still negotiating with PSG then?
I have said all along I have a feeling he will end up at Bayern (if they cash in on Lewendowski to Real)... I still think its a realistic possibility

This could actually be true. He likes Ancelotti and few teams can give him a better chance to win the Champions League. I want him in United but without Champions League I doubt we have a chance. Then he's more likely to move to China or USA imo.
 
This could actually be true. He likes Ancelotti and few teams can give him a better chance to win the Champions League. I want him in United but without Champions League I doubt we have a chance. Then he's more likely to move to China or USA imo.

To be fair, it is probably harder to win the European Champions League with Los Angeles. :p

He has already rejected all the offers coming from China.
 
You can't finish top 4 with Rashford as the first choice striker

I'm not saying don't buy anyone I just wouldn't trade Rashford's pace and potential for Zlatans lack of pace and can do attitude
 
Not still negotiating with PSG then?
I have said all along I have a feeling he will end up at Bayern (if they cash in on Lewendowski to Real)... I still think its a realistic possibility
1) There's no way Bayern Munich would do that.
2) Ibrahimovic will never play for Bayern Munich after Rummenigge's comments against him 3 years ago.
 
It's the right signing to make. He's a top player and he's at the age where he's only got a season or 2 left so he won't impede the progress of Rashford and Martial like Lukaku for example would.

The biggest argument is "what about Rashford"? Fair point as he does look the real deal, but going into the season with an 18 year old as your main striker is irresponsible. About as irresponsible as us pinning our hopes on Memphis this season.
 
Sign him for a season, granted he is a veteran but he could be like Cantona, a maverick who flourishes on the big stage. Agreed, he won't hit the heights of Le God, due to his age, but he could still have an impact. It's a free, but if he asks for some ridiculous wage then forget it - £600k a week being mentioned ,no-one is worth that.
 
I am undecided , he is 35 and the PL is faster than the French League.
Not convinced he will be able to handle it, he was dreadful in the CL against City.
The thing that struck me the most about his showing against city was that he looked like he didn't give a feck
 
Will be the same type of flop as Falcao was, we need to declining players, but those who can step up and progress with the club. I also don't believe we will get him. Esp without CL.
 
I said the same , before that , I was yeah couple of season would be good, but that display really changed my mind.
What about his showing vs Chelsea in the same CL campaign? And how many great Real players looked good against City in the semis?
 
Will be the same type of flop as Falcao was, we need to declining players, but those who can step up and progress with the club. I also don't believe we will get him. Esp without CL.

Based on what? Zlatan hasn't been out with a serious injury like Falcao has, and look how good Zlatan has been this season. I'm sure he'd do great at us for at least 1 season, but probably under another manager than LvG though. I'd love to see him play under Mourinho again.
 
Will be the same type of flop as Falcao was, we need to declining players, but those who can step up and progress with the club. I also don't believe we will get him. Esp without CL.
Ibra is light years better than current Falcao, thats just a terribly lazy comparison. Statistically, Ibra has been one of the top 3-5 players in Europe this season. When we loaned Falcao, how was he the prior season?
 
Yeah, Ibrahomovic is the same age as Sheringham at the point we moved him on.

Yes he was, it's actually surprising in hindsight Sheringham lasted until 35 at United. But then his last season for us might have actually been his best if i remember correctly.
 
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Players coming from the shitty league are successful with Leicester or West Ham...

Thats the problem though mate isn't it?

Anyone who's half decent doesn't stay in France for long unless they go to PSG, thats why all the teams below PSG are so weak.

PSG are 28 points clear of the 2nd best team in France Lyon.Who in turn are 28 points ahead of relegation threatened Ajaccio in 18th place. Thats crazy.

Sorry mate but if a very good but not great side like PSG are so dominant and walk a league such as that at a canter, and are as far ahead of the next best team as 2nd is ahead of a team that will be relegated. Then it points to Ligue 1 not actually being that strong of a league.
 
Would rather have him than Rooney playing as a 9. If we don't have any other realistic targets in mind, give him a one year contract.
 
Thats the problem though mate isn't it?

Anyone who's half decent doesn't stay in France for long unless they go to PSG, thats why all the teams below PSG are so weak.

PSG are 28 points clear of the 2nd best team in France Lyon.Who in turn are 28 points ahead of relegation threatened Ajaccio in 18th place. Thats crazy.

Sorry mate but if a very good but not great side like PSG are so dominant and walk a league such as that at a canter, and are as far ahead of the next best team as 2nd is ahead of a team that will be relegated. Then it points to Ligue 1 not actually being that strong of a league.
That logic actually doesn't make much sense. Because if all the half decent players leave Ligue 1 after a short time, then its status quo as other upcoming talented players take their place?

No one is saying that Ligue 1 is a strong league but the constant downplaying of it is pretty annoying. This season has been more of an aberration than a regular occurrence. Many teams in Ligue 1 had dysfunctional situations and had manager replacements. PSG has won previous years too but the margin was much less. In 14-15 season, there was an 8 point difference between PSG (Champions) and Lyon (Runners up).
 
We'd be mad not to take him on a free for a season.

If he doesn't work out we've lost nothing really.

However, our biggest problem is our team mentality. Forget his ability which is not really in doubt. He reminds me of Cantona in his attitude and that's exactly what we need right now. He will drag us kicking and screaming to the final whistle and make our players believe we've won before the game even kicks off.
 
We'd be mad not to take him on a free for a season.

If he doesn't work out we've lost nothing really.

However, our biggest problem is our team mentality. Forget his ability which is not really in doubt. He reminds me of Cantona in his attitude and that's exactly what we need right now. He will drag us kicking and screaming to the final whistle and make our players believe we've won before the game even kicks off.
15-20m.. wages+signing on fee..
Not nothing.
 
15-20m.. wages+signing on fee..
Not nothing.

As good as nothing for a club of our size and revenue though. Like Falcao, a risk definitely worth taking. Less of a risk than Falcao coming back from an injury though. The only question is can he still do it in a real league at his age.
 
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We'd be mad not to take him on a free for a season.

If he doesn't work out we've lost nothing really.

However, our biggest problem is our team mentality. Forget his ability which is not really in doubt. He reminds me of Cantona in his attitude and that's exactly what we need right now. He will drag us kicking and screaming to the final whistle and make our players believe we've won before the game even kicks off.

Opportunity cost of not signing a class forward instead of Ibra will be our only loss if he doesnt work out but its fecking ibra! Sign him up :drool:
 
Thats the problem though mate isn't it?

Anyone who's half decent doesn't stay in France for long unless they go to PSG, thats why all the teams below PSG are so weak.

PSG are 28 points clear of the 2nd best team in France Lyon.Who in turn are 28 points ahead of relegation threatened Ajaccio in 18th place. Thats crazy.

Sorry mate but if a very good but not great side like PSG are so dominant and walk a league such as that at a canter, and are as far ahead of the next best team as 2nd is ahead of a team that will be relegated. Then it points to Ligue 1 not actually being that strong of a league.

Are Mahrez, Kanté and Payer bad players because they used to play in France?

The debate is not: French league very shitty OR very very shitty league?

The debate is: do we need Ibra who is available unlike many fantastic scorers?

I know your answers and that thread is a subject dear to your heart ;)
 

According to Le Parisien sources Ibra is likely going to Manchester United.
 
We need a striker and if we can't get aubemeyang (sp) or Kane (zero chance. He will end up at Madrid one day) or Lukaku (new money) we should definitely sign ibra. As many keep saying he has an X factor
 
He'll come as a legend. Leave as a pauper..
That's what football do to ya... or more what Vangle would do to him.
 
Does no one else find the whole Ibrahimovich cult thing amongst grown men a bit weird? FootballBible/Ladbible dynamite

Yes, it's very weird. He's one of those types that will say some dumb shit and his fans will lap it up. Looking through this thread you wouldn't think Zlatan has never kicked a ball for Manchester United.
 
That logic actually doesn't make much sense. Because if all the half decent players leave Ligue 1 after a short time, then its status quo as other upcoming talented players take their place?

Of course it makes sense.

Yes replaced by younger developing players most of them who also leave at the first sign of promise. In the mean time though in most cases they are initially not as good as the players they have replaced and the teams they play for are in turn not as good. Then when they become good they leave and the vicious cycle continues and Ligue 1 continues to hemorrhage talent.

No one is saying that Ligue 1 is a strong league but the constant downplaying of it is pretty annoying. This season has been more of an aberration than a regular occurrence. Many teams in Ligue 1 had dysfunctional situations and had manager replacements. PSG has won previous years too but the margin was much less. In 14-15 season, there was an 8 point difference between PSG (Champions) and Lyon (Runners up).

The constant overstating of it's quality is equally annoying.

The margin was less in previous seasons because PSG continue to strengthen signing top players while the rest continue to sell their best players players. And so the gap widens.
 
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Mourinho and Zlatan, plus other big names we'd attract despite no CL.

Or Van Gaal, and er...

It's a no brainer Ed, and that's ignoring the reasons why Van Gaal cannot keep his job in the first place.
 
Of course it makes sense.

Yes replaced by younger developing players most of them who also leave at the first sign of promise. In the mean time though in most cases they are initially not as good as the players they have replaced and the teams they play for are in turn not as good. Then when they become good they leave and the vicious cycle continues and Ligue 1 continues to hemorrhage talent.



The constant overstating of it's quality is equally annoying.

The margin was less in previous seasons because PSG continue to strengthen signing top players while the rest continue to sell good players. And so the gap widens.
You must hear things I don't because people overstate the quality of EPL, La Liga or Buli regularly but I can't remember anyone overstating L1 quality for quite a while.

Especially on the caf it goes to extreme levels, taking any argument to downplay L1, conclude it's shit, then playing this narrative to invent new stupid ways to say L1 is shit.
 
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