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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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Revan said:
You cannot win anything with kids. And I am dead serious on that.

Even the United team full of kids which won the title, in reality was a mixed team with some experienced players there. This team has no leader (bar Rooney who is shit, Schweinsteiger who is injured and Carrick who is half-retired). We need young players, but we also need proven quality and experienced players.
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Why not both?

Experienced players who are still relatively young. For me you don't build a side to get back on top by signing 35 year old's.

The last time we were in a transitional period like this back in 2003-06 we invested in youth, players 18-24 who were hungry that you can build a team around. Ronaldo, Rooney, Park, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, thats the type of players we should be using our resources to sign.
 
Attila said:
Its hard to predict how any transfer will do. Just look at Depay, Darmian, Rojo, Schneiderlin, schwein etc

All different reputations and profiles and all flops in their own way
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Yeah of course but in Depay, Rojo, Darmian and Scheniderlin they are all young and can improve and become important players for us(not that they all will). And if they don't we can sell them on and recoup some of their fees back. And let's not forget those four combined probably make less or the same as Zlatan will be looking to earn on is own.
 
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stevoc said:
Why not both?

Experienced players who are still relatively young. For me you don't build a side to get back on top by signing 35 year old's.

The last time we were in a transitional period like this back in 2003-06 we invested in youth, players 18-24 who were hungry that you can build a team around. Ronaldo, Rooney, Park, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, thats the type of players we should be using our resources to sign.
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We also had Scholes, Giggs, Van Der Sar, Ferdinand and Neville as experienced winners.

We don't have such players anymore bar Rooney, Carrick and Schweinsteiger but all three of them seem to be way past their best.
 
stevoc said:
Yeah of course but in Depay, Rojo, Darmian and Scheniderlin they are all young and can improve and become important players for us. And if they don't we can sell them on and recoup some of their fees back. And let's not forget those four combined probably make less or the same as Zlatan will be looking to earn on is own.
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Depays contract got leaked and his salary was something like £110k a week and I think he has managed 2 league goals. I don't know why you are so worried about the money. Ibrahimovich is clearly good enough to get 20 goals for next season and hopefully by the time he is gone someone like Harry Kane who Mourinho apparently wants will be available.

I just don't understand your point in being against this signing. The money isn't a problem for the club and he isn't going to be on a long term contract. Probably 2 years is my guess. He's a player who is playing the best football of his career, physically he is in fantastic shape and I would say relies on his power more than his pace and he's got a winning mentality who has won league titles wherever he has went.

Lets say he wanted £200k or £100k would you be more accepting then? Considering how much work our squad needs this summer we should be happy Mourinho will be able to attract a world class striker for next season instead of thinking about how much money he will earn and buying players so we can have some resale value if they flop
 
Zlatan Ibrahimovic says he feels better than ever at the age of 34 and claims the secret to his success this season is "deciding he is very young". The veteran striker has enjoyed a magnificent campaign for PSG, who are still chasing a quadruple ahead of the second leg of their Champions League quarter-final tie at Manchester City on Tuesday.

L'Equipe suggest Zlatan Ibrahimovic is looking for a 2-year contract extension at PSG or elsewhere, so that he can move to Miami in 2018.

— Jonathan Johnson (@Jon_LeGossip) April 4, 2016
Ibrahimovic has scored an astonishing 39 goals in 42 appearances this season and is out of contract at the end of the campaign, with the Sweden captain believing he is at his peak ahead of potentially hitting the open market.


"I have never been better," he told UEFA. "The way I feel today is the best I have ever been. I was born old and I will die young. That is how it looks.

"I appreciate it [the special moments] because I think everything is in your head. It's a mental thing.

"You are as young and fresh as you think you are and that is what I have proved this season, by doing the things I am doing. So the age is just a number.

"Your head decides how young you are and how old you are. So this year I decided I am very young."

The Champions League is one trophy that has eluded Ibrahimovic in his glittering career and he hopes PSG are better equipped to reach the latter stages having fallen at the quarter-final stage in each of the last three seasons.

Ibrahimovic continued: "I play for trophies - whatever trophy I can win, I will do everything in my power, in my sacrifice, to win it. Absolutely.

"So if we can win it, we want to win it. The players on the pitch want to win everything. That's why we are here, to train, to focus, to prepare and to do it. So let's see.

"Every time [the aim has been] to go further, but so far we haven't gone further. You can always wish, but you need to [put in the performances] in the two games you play.

"We are a better team this season. And we have more experience this season, so the club – no, not the club, but the new team, let's say, that was reborn a couple of years ago – is more used to the quarter-finals."

PSG's tie against City is level at 2-2 going into the match at the Etihad Stadium.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-man-utd-if-louis-van-gaal-leaves-sky-sources

Zlatan joins if Van Gaal leaves...... sounds like a win win to me
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Just came here to post this. I hope he doesn't join though honestly. It would mean even less opportunities for Rashford and Martial would never ever get a run as a forward. Also, with Rooney virtually being omnipresent, what would be the point. Only workaround I see is if Mourinho comes in, sells Mata, plays Rooney as a No 10 and the Zlat then has a chance. But even then no Rashy.
Team would look something like this

DDG (If not sold)
Darmian -Smalling -new CB - Shaw
Schneidy - New CM
New RW - Rooney - Martial
Zlatan
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I don't think that Zlatan can give us more than one good Season and if Mourinho were to join us I'm sure that Ibra will come too.

The added bonus is that we'll have finally got rid of LVG - win-win situation!
 
Ijazz17 said:
Just came here to post this. I hope he doesn't join though honestly. It would mean even less opportunities for Rashford and Martial would never ever get a run as a forward. Also, with Rooney virtually being omnipresent, what would be the point. Only workaround I see is if Mourinho comes in, sells Mata, plays Rooney as a No 10 and the Zlat then has a chance. But even then no Rashy.
Team would look something like this

DDG (If not sold)
Darmian -Smalling -new CB - Shaw
Schneidy - New CM
New RW - Rooney - Martial
Zlatan
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Rooney as #10 :nono:
 
Bunch of fecktards with no clue about football. Zlatan would be the worst transfer the club had ever made?

Yeah right, let's sign more kids and play more kids. Just because the Falcao transfer did not work out we should never ever try to sign any top striker anymore. feck experienced players, feck leaders, feck arrogant players, because Man Utd is a club of nice little boys that tries to win when they can. Oh his wages is so expensive let's not sign him because ermm, it is expensive? When the club is desperate for someone that can score goals? Zlatan had scored as many goals as the whole fecking Man Utd squad managed for the whole season in the league, and yet there are people here who thinks he would not improve the squad and would be a flop.
 
Revan said:
We also had Scholes, Giggs, Van Der Sar, Ferdinand and Neville as experienced winners.

We don't have such players anymore bar Rooney, Carrick and Schweinsteiger but all three of them seem to be way past their best.
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Yeah fair enough we did but of those players in 2003 Ferdinand was 24, Scholes 28, Giggs 29, Neville 28.

Rooney is 30, Smalling is 26, Schweinsteiger is 31, Mata 28. We have experience what we need are good young hungry players to build a team around.

Not big names looking a pay day, we have already been down that route with Di Maria, Valdes, Schweinsteiger and Falcao.
 
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Martial is 20 and Rashford is 18, why the rush? Ibra would give us a couple of good quality seasons while they develop a bit more, my biggest concern is if Rooney is still here I don't want to see them both starting.

Striker10 said:
Ibrahimovic will offer quality and arrogance. I think he will rub off (sounds wrong lol), on the younger players and that's what we need. We're too nice. For me the future is Wilson and I wouldn't rule Keane out either. So someone like Zlatan is not a long term threat to anyone. Who knows how ambitious we will be in the summer? Jose and Ibrahimovic would be a good start. We have to stop this nonsense. It cannot continue. Outside of Fellaini, herrera (I mean the experienced players), we lack quality/fight.
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You think Wilson is our future #9 rather than Martial?
 
Attila said:
Depays contract got leaked and his salary was something like £110k a week and I think he has managed 2 league goals. I don't know why you are so worried about the money. Ibrahimovich is clearly good enough to get 20 goals for next season and hopefully by the time he is gone someone like Harry Kane who Mourinho apparently wants will be available.

I just don't understand your point in being against this signing. The money isn't a problem for the club and he isn't going to be on a long term contract. Probably 2 years is my guess. He's a player who is playing the best football of his career, physically he is in fantastic shape and I would say relies on his power more than his pace and he's got a winning mentality who has won league titles wherever he has went.

Lets say he wanted £200k or £100k would you be more accepting then? Considering how much work our squad needs this summer we should be happy Mourinho will be able to attract a world class striker for next season instead of thinking about how much money he will earn and buying players so we can have some resale value if they flop
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Well i thought i had already been clear but here goes again, the money alone doesn't concern me. If it was guaranteed that he would come here and score 30 goals a year for 2 years then great i wouldn't care if we paid him 500,000k a week.

What worries me is that we get locked into a contract for years and could end up paying a player a fortune every week and he turns out to be another over the hill dud.

All this guff about what he will definitely do in the PL is nonsense, no one can predict how he will play in the Premier League. He could be great and one of the best players in the league or he could rapidly decline have problems adapting and in general just be a bit meh at best or at worst dogshit. Anything is possible.

I just think signing a guy who's 35 for the numbers being reported is way too big a risk. PSG have done well to get the type of performance level out of him that they have in the last few years. Though playing in a team thats built around him in a less physical league where they are by far and away the best side has helped him. He wouldn't have that luxury at United.
 
Devil may care said:
Martial is 20 and Rashford is 18, why the rush? Ibra would give us a couple of good quality seasons while they develop a bit more, my biggest concern is if Rooney is still here I don't want to see them both starting.



You think Wilson is our future #9 rather than Martial?
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People have been moaning about the fact that Martial looks absolutely shattered and needs a break too.

We could comfortably sign two new strikers and Martial and Rashford would still get plenty of game time over a season.
 
stevoc said:
Well i thought i had already been clear but here goes again, the money alone doesn't concern me. If it was guaranteed that he would come here and score 30 goals a year for 2 years then great i wouldn't care if we paid him 500,000k a week.

What worries me is that we get locked into a contract for years and could end up paying a player a fortune every week and he turns out to be another over the hill dud.

All this guff about what he will definitely do in the PL is nonsense, no one can predict how he will play in the Premier League. He could be great and one of the best players in the league or he could rapidly decline have problems adapting and in general just be a bit meh at best or at worst dogshit. Anything is possible.

I just think signing a guy who's 35 for the numbers being reported is way too big a risk. PSG have done well to get the type of performance level out of him that they have in the last few years. Though playing in a team thats built around him in a less physical league where they are by far and away the best side has helped him. He wouldn't have that luxury at United.
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The contract will most likely be for 2 years. I think it's more likely that he will continue to perform well next season and not turn to complete shit over the summer. Potentially his form will drop off in the second season and if it does its his final season anyway.

Ligue 1 is a very physical league as well I think and it's not like hes too small to handle the premier league. If he comes here he will be the best player in the team and I would imagine Mourinho would have the teams playing to his strengths as well.

What striker are you wanting over him this summer anyway?
 
Can't remotely understand the logic of anyone who would be opposed to this transfer. And don't bring up Harry Kane because that's not happening this summer.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
I third (and fourth) that.

Why play him as a 10? He's not a 10, nowhere near enough creativity.

He's a forward... Is he good enough to play upfront for United? No.... sell him (or part-swap with cash for Stones :D)
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I have a feeling that Mourinho will want to keep Rooney and will use him a lot. Rooney seems to be Mourinho's type of player and just like Mourinho didn't realize it with Falcao this season, he might also not realize it this time.
 
DarkXaero said:
I have a feeling that Mourinho will want to keep Rooney and will use him a lot. Rooney seems to be Mourinho's type of player and just like Mourinho didn't realize it with Falcao this season, he might also not realize it this time.
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He hardly kicked a ball, would indicate the manager realised.
 
Cassidy said:
He hardly kicked a ball, would indicate the manager realised.
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I recall him coming off the bench a bunch of times while Mourinho was manager. Besides Rooney isn't Falcao, he's not recovering from a serious injury and has a better reputation. Mourinho thought that he could revive Falcao's career.

"If I can help Falcao reach his level again, I will do it. It hurts me people in England think that the real Falcao is the one we saw at United."


I'm afraid he'll think the same with Rooney except he'll actually start Rooney.
 
Now that I think more about it, this looks like Mourinho planting news in the media and making promises which he may or may not be able to keep to put pressure on the club to offer him the job.

Also Zlatan's agent is Mino Raiola, Pogba's agent.
 
stevoc said:
Umm well yeah that's exactly the point that you seem to have missed mate. RVP only had one year left so we let him go for a small fee to help Fenerbache make up his wages.

We can't or won't do that with Rooney with 3 years left on his contract.



How likely do you actually think scenario is mate?

The thought that we would tell the club captain to feck off or he won't play really come on.
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Have you forgot what happened with keane?
 
Attila said:
The contract will most likely be for 2 years. I think it's more likely that he will continue to perform well next season and not turn to complete shit over the summer. Potentially his form will drop off in the second season and if it does its his final season anyway.

Ligue 1 is a very physical league as well I think and it's not like hes too small to handle the premier league. If he comes here he will be the best player in the team and I would imagine Mourinho would have the teams playing to his strengths as well.

What striker are you wanting over him this summer anyway?
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I don't have any particular striker in mind, i don't know for sure who the manager will be next year or what type of striker they will want or who will be available. So theres no point speculating beyond that i would prefer a younger player to come in preferably mid-twenties.

What i do know though is i can't think of another case where a big name striker played his first season in the Premier League (or any top league for that matter) at 35 and was a revelation. Could be wrong but i can't think of another example, can you?
 
P-Nut0712 said:
Have you forgot what happened with keane?
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Keane was 35, had only 6 months left on his contract, had just threw several young members of the squad under the bus in an MUTV interview and openly questioned Fergusons authority in front of the whole squad.

Yeah i remember it well, do you?

Both situations are not even remotely similar mate.
 
stevoc said:
I don't have any particular striker in mind, i don't know for sure who the manager will be next year or what type of striker they will want or who will be available. So theres no point speculating beyond that i would prefer a younger player to come in preferably mid-twenties.

What i do know though is i can't think of another case where a big name striker played his first season in the Premier League (or any top league for that matter) at 35 and was a revelation. Could be wrong but i can't think of another example, can you?
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I can't but its not like its often that a player has his best season at 34
 
stevoc said:
Keane was 35, had only 6 months left on his contract, had just threw several young members of the squad under the bus in an MUTV interview and openly questioned Fergusons authority in front of the whole squad.

Yeah i remember it well, do you?

Both situations are not even remotely similar mate.
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I was replying to the point you stated about there is no chance they would pretty much tell the captain to piss off. They have and they would do again if the situation fitted their needs.
 
Possibly saying that because he knows Mourinho could be our next manager. Either way, I don't think it'll work. He holds it up well, and the link up between he and Rooney be decent, but they'd be a lack of variation. Both players wanting the ball to feet. Be like Van Persie and Rooney all over again.

Having said that, it could all depend on who we have on the wings. If we have wingers who are going to run in behind Ibra then it could possibly work.

Martial Ibrahimovic Winger
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
Possibly saying that because he knows Mourinho could be our next manager. Either way, I don't think it'll work. He holds it up well, and the link up between he and Rooney be decent, but they'd be a lack of variation. Both players wanting the ball to feet. Be like Van Persie and Rooney all over again.

Having said that, it could all depend on who we have on the wings. If we have wingers who are going to run in behind Ibra then it could possibly work.

Martial Ibrahimovic Winger
Rooney​
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Or, hopefully the new manager does what needs to be done for the sake of the club and move Rooney on.

For what it's worth I wouldn't be surprised to see Jose play 442 here next year with Martial and Zlatan as his forwards. Can see Mata and Rooney being sold.
 
Attila said:
I can't but its not like its often that a player has his best season at 34
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Fair enough mate, i think it's still a deal United would need to seriously weigh up given his age if there is any truth to it.
 
P-Nut0712 said:
I was replying to the point you stated about there is no chance they would pretty much tell the captain to piss off. They have and they would do again if the situation fitted their needs.
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Yeah but when i said club captain in the post you replied to i was obviously referring to Wayne Rooney specifically, Rooney's situation and Keanes back in 2005 are totally different.

Keane's behaviour warranted him getting sacked. Rooney is club captain, England captain, soon to be all time club top scorer, 30 years old not 35, still the biggest draw in terms of marketing, has 3 years left on a massive contract not 6 months and has not done anything that would result in him getting sacked and booted out of the club.

So back to my original point it's highly unlikely United will be booting Wayne Rooney out or giving him ultimatums about playing time. Do you disagree?
 
If we sign Zlatan, I can see him as a false #9, allowing two fast paced forwards playing a more advanced role.

------Zlatan-------
RF-----------Martial

Sub: Rooney :devil:

As for the right forward, Griezmann, Mahrez, etc.
In Griezmann or Mahrez, Martial might find it easier to communicate :)
 
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Bwuk said:
Or, hopefully the new manager does what needs to be done for the sake of the club and move Rooney on.

For what it's worth I wouldn't be surprised to see Jose play 442 here next year with Martial and Zlatan as his forwards. Can see Mata and Rooney being sold.
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Before Van Gaal came in, everyone thought he'd flog Rooney. Some thought the same with Moyes, especially after his comments. People will most likely say the same thing about Mourinho, but I think he'd love to work with Rooney.
 
Devil may care said:
That's probably true, he's too big of a personality for Wenger, hates Pep and has too high of a wage demand for Spurs. That would leave us and Chelsea but they'd only go for him if they sell Costa.
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Yep. Written in the stars with Mou coming in.
 
Garethw said:
People have been moaning about the fact that Martial looks absolutely shattered and needs a break too.

We could comfortably sign two new strikers and Martial and Rashford would still get plenty of game time over a season.
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We've really overplayed Martial which seems to have stemmed a lot from how poor Memphis is, but he'd certainly not be hampered by Ibra coming in.

podurban2 said:
Yep. Written in the stars with Mou coming in.
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Hopefully, we could badly use both.
 
Our quiet lot need more big-headed, outspoken lunatics that aren't named van Gaal! Sign Zlatan up!
 
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