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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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We have players for the future already, you can only play so many players for the future if you actually want to be successful.

Do people want our club be a success, or simply be a daddy day care centre for talented young player who may or may not progress into great players.


Now is literally the perfect time for a Zlatan like signing.
 
Frasbul said:
I am not sure if Rashford is all that. He has had a great start no doubt about it, but my gut says he won't be world class. I hope I'm wrong.
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He's got a great eye for goal, but if some of the top players have a dip in form with second season blues, I'm interested to see what will happen with Rashford.

Will he manage to outshine his first season, or get an ego and jaded, which arguably happened to Januzaj. I really think the UK media really doesn't do these guys any favours, with "This guy is the next .....", but I guess all young stars have to deal with it.
 
RDCR07 said:
And who do you suggest we get for the "future"?
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I am not sure. While I watch a lot of football, I haven't watched enough games of the "obvious" candidates like Embolo to form an opinion. Heck I only knew Martial by name when we signed him.

There just has to be a better alternative than Zlatan. We signed Falcao and di Maria to an extent as show of strengh and not because we particulary needed them. Although Zlatan is way better than Falcao was for us, this feels similar.
 
I've got two kids and age 2 years and 4 months old. Their first kit gonna be Zlatan on the back. I already promised them. He better sign soon!
 
Frasbul said:
I am not sure. While I watch a lot of football, I haven't watched enough games of the "obvious" candidates like Embolo to form an opinion. Heck I only knew Martial by name when we signed him.

There just has to be a better alternative than Zlatan. We signed Falcao and di Maria to an extent as show of strengh and not because we particulary needed them. Although Zlatan is way better than Falcao was for us, this feels similar.
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We maybe signed Falcao as a show of strength but we didnt do that with Di Maria. We genuinely had use for him and if not for LVG he would have worked out for us, especially if Mou was in charge. And countless posters have argued why this Zlatan isnt even anything remotely similar to the Falcao deal. Also if Rashford isnt okay for you for the future then surely Embolo isnt either even if you have seen him countless times?
 
7even said:
Bruno Bruno.... less competitive leagues? You should be careful with comparing the PL with other leagues, it may not always works in your favor. Serie A clubs is no push overs and Zlatan represented the big three in Italy. He also played for Barca and PSG. There most be a reason these clubs wanted him.

Your next suggestion is about playing week in and week out. The young 22 year old super talented Harry Kane, the new English golden boy, played in total 3838 minutes this season. A grand total of 135 minutes more then his 12 year older colleague who btw scored 22 more goals and 14 more assist this season then England's finest. I agree that the French league is probably easier but he still produced the numbers and played more or less as many minutes as many other high profile strikers around.

Your last thing about Rashford was funny, I will give you that. At least you have humor.
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I dont deny his stats are good but its all historical data from relatively weaker leagues or not as competitive at PL. CL goals are impressive but the games in leagues were much easier and could play even at 50% effort and still score a hat-trick. In PL the games are more tougher or equal to some of the CL games, so the effort required of players is much higher all the time.

He may have done well in the PAST when he was still younger but we are buying a much OLDER Ibra to play in a very competitive league where pace is crucial. Can he do it NEXT season?? How many 35yr olds have been bought by PL clubs and did well playing every week? Fact that most new players, much younger than Ibra, struggle to adapt to PL however talented they are should concern you a bit if a 35 yr old is involved and expected to play every week
 
The only Italien teams he considering would be either Napoli or Roma in my opinion.
 
RDCR07 said:
Why them when he has far better options?
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Last few years he has been flirting with both teams in various interviews, both him and hes agent Raiola. He consider Italy as hes second home country and love the Italian football in general and hes treated as a God.

I think though that 99% chans that he will end up in Man Utd. Only threat should be Bayern Mun because of hes other favourite coach Ancelotti, besides Morinio, and that they are in the CL. But as many in this thread is saying that its just if Lewandovski will leave.

Im a bit worried that he has said a few times now that hes next club will be a surprise, a bomb, and all the talk about Man Utd last months and hes just smiling makes me wonder. Cant be a surprise if everyone already is saying Man Utd.

(sorry but the rant, English is not my first language) :smirk:
 
nazanto said:
I've got two kids and age 2 years and 4 months old. Their first kit gonna be Zlatan on the back. I already promised them. He better sign soon!
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The 4 months one must bloody brilliant to trick you into promising a zlatan shirt, you better fullfill this one or :devil:
 
Guys, stop panicking. I'm not in the know or anything like that, but I'm 99.99% sure that this was a done deal weeks ago.

His contract with PSG should be ending next week so expect an announcement then.
 
Oldmaz said:
Last few years he has been flirting with both teams in various interviews, both him and hes agent Raiola. He consider Italy as hes second home country and love the Italian football in general and hes treated as a God.

I think though that 99% chans that he will end up in Man Utd. Only threat should be Bayern Mun because of hes other favourite coach Ancelotti, besides Morinio, and that they are in the CL. But as many in this thread is saying that its just if Lewandovski will leave.

Im a bit worried that he has said a few times now that hes next club will be a surprise, a bomb, and all the talk about Man Utd last months and hes just smiling makes me wonder. Cant be a surprise if everyone already is saying Man Utd.

(sorry but the rant, English is not my first language) :smirk:
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Do you actually support Zlatan over any football team?
 
Oldmaz said:
Last few years he has been flirting with both teams in various interviews, both him and hes agent Raiola. He consider Italy as hes second home country and love the Italian football in general and hes treated as a God.

I think though that 99% chans that he will end up in Man Utd. Only threat should be Bayern Mun because of hes other favourite coach Ancelotti, besides Morinio, and that they are in the CL. But as many in this thread is saying that its just if Lewandovski will leave.

Im a bit worried that he has said a few times now that hes next club will be a surprise, a bomb, and all the talk about Man Utd last months and hes just smiling makes me wonder. Cant be a surprise if everyone already is saying Man Utd.

(sorry but the rant, English is not my first language) :smirk:
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He has also stated (I think) that he's completed his mission in Italy. I think only a surprise situation involving Bayern will stop Zlatan from signing for us. As the for 'the bomb' comment, it was taken out of context and had little to do with his next club.
 
Bruno8 said:
I dont deny his stats are good but its all historical data from relatively weaker leagues or not as competitive at PL. CL goals are impressive but the games in leagues were much easier and could play even at 50% effort and still score a hat-trick. In PL the games are more tougher or equal to some of the CL games, so the effort required of players is much higher all the time.

He may have done well in the PAST when he was still younger but we are buying a much OLDER Ibra to play in a very competitive league where pace is crucial. Can he do it NEXT season?? How many 35yr olds have been bought by PL clubs and did well playing every week? Fact that most new players, much younger than Ibra, struggle to adapt to PL however talented they are should concern you a bit if a 35 yr old is involved and expected to play every week
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Why is pace crucial in the PL? 30 years ago English football was kick-and-run, but now all the best teams play possession based football (bar last seasons miracle winners).
Silva, Özil and Fabregas are some of the slowest players in the league when it comes to outright pace yet when they are at their best no one can touch them. Yes they are not strikers but last time I checked most of the CB's of the PL weren't any speed monsters either.
 
Zlaatan said:
Why is pace crucial in the PL? 30 years ago English football was kick-and-run, but now all the best teams play possession based football (bar last seasons miracle winners).
Silva, Özil and Fabregas are some of the slowest players in the league when it comes to outright pace yet when they are at their best no one can touch them. Yes they are not strikers but last time I checked most of the CB's of the PL weren't any speed monsters either.
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While I do agree that slow strikers could potentially make it in this league the three you mentioned dont play the striker position and almost every team has a quick/pacy #9.
 
Zlaatan said:
Why is pace crucial in the PL? 30 years ago English football was kick-and-run, but now all the best teams play possession based football (bar last seasons miracle winners).
Silva, Özil and Fabregas are some of the slowest players in the league when it comes to outright pace yet when they are at their best no one can touch them. Yes they are not strikers but last time I checked most of the CB's of the PL weren't any speed monsters either.
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Not true at all. Ozil spends matches gliding around the pitch, and on the counter he is usually the man seeking to play the killer ball rather than run onto it, so people assume he is slow. But when Ozil actually sprints, he is quite fast.
 
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
 
Dobbs said:
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
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I think Arsenal are far from just needing tweaking. I was not impressed with them last year. They had a lot of talent and seemed to squander it away. I see them in the top 4-6 but not above us by any means. Our time to return to the top where we belong is now... and Arsenal will have to deal with it.
 
Dobbs said:
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
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His personality is too big for Wenger.
 
Dobbs said:
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
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He probably wants to play for the biggest club in England and for Mourinho. Arsenal can't offer any of that.
 
Dobbs said:
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
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Wenger already all but signed him once. Zlatan even posed in the Arsenal shirt. Google it. But Wenger somehow still let him slip through his fingers
 
Laphroaig said:
Surely the starting 11's average age was pretty close to 30?
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Age was not what I was referring to. The majority of the squad had no experience from either top flight football or were around Euro 2012. The players below have been the core for some time now and they've aged like shit bar Ibra.

Isaksson
Granqvist
Lustig
Olsson

Källström
Wernbloom
Larsson

Ibra

These are the players who had at least one tournament under their belt coming into Euro 2016. So yes, the team/squad was extremely weak and inexperienced.
 
Dobbs said:
Ha not for me.

A). I'm tight
B). This goal figure you'd be satisfied with gets lower by the day.

Double figures? You'd bloody hope so. Rooney's just had a shocking season and he got 15 playing in midfield half the time (I think).

If that's all you want from a striker there's lots of options out there. Some of them already at the club.
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haha, damn it. Twiggy came out cocky talking about less than double figures and I thought it might have bene the easiest money since google started trading in the UK.

Ah well, you've more sense sadly :(

I'd be satisfied with 25 in all comps including pens (if he comes), if he's fit for the season then anything less and I'd say he's a let down.
 
Dobbs said:
Why aren't Arsenal in for him? Having missed out on Vardy and with Wenger being tight I'd have thought he'd be a consideration. From his point of view he gets to live in London and play in ECL.

I think he'd suit them better. Right now we're a team that's starting from scratch, re building. Him coming here would remind of RvN in his last season. He scored over 20 that year, a figure most here would consider a success for Ibra. However he wasn't the right player for that team at that particular time.

Arsenal are closer to the finished product, they just need tweaking. I think Ibra needs to go into a functioning team that's already playing fluent football. Not a team that lacks a style or identity.

Seems to make sense to me anyway.
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They've just needed "tweaking" for about 10 years now.:lol:

League nearly men until Wenger goes.

I'd rather Mourinho pick us up from this point, than be Arsenal with Wenger.
 
Not bothered either way, if he joins then I'll hope he can do what he has always done, whilst harbouring extreme doubts as to whether he actually will, if he doesn't then we still need a striker, and a better option might just come our way.
 
Raoul said:
He probably wants to play for the biggest club in England and for Mourinho. Arsenal can't offer any of that.
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We've just finished 7th and 5th. I like the bravado but with possibly only a year left you'd imagine Ibra needs something more tangible than words. Like ECL and a team competing for leagues(or there abouts).

It doesn't explain why Arsenal aren't in for him either. Somebody said Wenger couldn't handle him. If Blanc can Wenger can.
 
Dobbs said:
We've just finished 7th and 5th. I like the bravado but with possibly only a year left you'd imagine Ibra needs something more tangible than words. Like ECL and a team competing for leagues(or there abouts).

It doesn't explain why Arsenal aren't in for him either. Somebody said Wenger couldn't handle him. If Blanc can Wenger can.
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He has a great relationship with Mourinho and wants to play in England. We are the logical choice. He can do two years here and launch a proper assault on the CL next year.
 
Dobbs said:
We've just finished 7th and 5th. I like the bravado but with possibly only a year left you'd imagine Ibra needs something more tangible than words.
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Like playing in the biggest country he hasn't played in, and for the biggest club in that country, the second biggest team he has played for, expanding his image more than he could anywhere else and for a proven winner who he loves.... erm.... ok!
 
Sandikan said:
They've just needed "tweaking" for about 10 years now.:lol:
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True. Must be massively frustrating for your average Arsenal fan. However they've been better than us for the last three years and are closer to being title winners. With Champions League football and living in London it must be at least as tempting as United.
 
If he has aspirations of winning the Champions League then he has only two options - Madrid and Bayern. But both are very hard options for him. At Madrid dealing with Ronaldo's ego while competing with Benz and at Bayern competing with Lewandowski. No premier league team is going to win the UCL next year. Barca are out for obvious reasons. Athletico arent "big" enough for him. Milan cant offer Champions League football. Juventus might be an option but there has no link between the two. He just left PSG. There is no one else.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Not bothered either way, if he joins then I'll hope he can do what he has always done, whilst harbouring extreme doubts as to whether he actually will, if he doesn't then we still need a striker, and a better option might just come our way.
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There is no realistic better option for the upcoming season.
 
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