They did a massive farewell to him, made "merci and goodbye" videos... etc etc etc
He has left PSG, the idea that after all that fanfare he'd suddenly sign an extra year is just preposterous.
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They did a massive farewell to him, made "merci and goodbye" videos... etc etc etc
He has left PSG, the idea that after all that fanfare he'd suddenly sign an extra year is just preposterous.
Sounds like you should avoid this thread.
Is it possible that Zlatan wilfully did not exert himself at the Euro because that would have made him vulnerable to injuries? He knows he has only one or two good seasons left, so might not have risked his market value going down.
His team were beyond shite, not much one player can do about that. Just look at George Best or Ryan Giggs.
It's hilarious how so many in this thread are slagging off his performances in the Euros and expecting more from a top player, yet I'm sure none of them would claim Best or Giggs weren't top players, and unlike Zlatan, neither of them ever managed to wrestle their shite national sides to a tournament.
No, the problem was that his teammates were unable to find him around the box, they were too slow and too poor to do it.
Cristiano Ronaldo 31 year 55 games 4465 minutes 57 goals 16 ass
Robert Lewandowski 27 year 54 games 3856 minutes 42 goals 3 ass
Harry Kane 22 year 57 games 3838 minutes 33 goals 2 ass
Zlatan Ibrahimovic 34 year 56 games 3703 minutes 52 goals 16 ass
Dimitri Payet 29 year 45 games 2780 minutes 16 goals 13 ass
Olivier Girioud 29 year 59 games 2986 minutes 29 goals 6 ass
Wayne Rooney 29 year 44 games 2972 minutes 13 goals 6 ass
Alexander Lacazette 25 year 43 games 3463 minutes 23 goals 3 ass
These stats speaks for themselves.
We can only guess but if Zlatan can be injury free and continue one more season in similar style I expect with above statistics in mind somewhere around 15-20 goals and maybe 5-10 ass if he playes 3000+ minutes in all competitions, probably more. Suggestions he should only score 6-7 goals aren't built on statistic relevance. A new transformed United, led by Mourinho, with addition of Zlatan, Mhkitaryan and maybe one more quality RW will defenetly score more then 50 goals a season. I think above numbers works in his favor to hit the net more then 6-7 times Twigg. Don't you think?
Robert Lewandowski 27 year 54 games 3856 minutes 42 goals 3 ass
Harry Kane 22 year 57 games 3838 minutes 33 goals 2 ass
Zlatan Ibrahimovic 34 year 56 games 3703 minutes 52 goals 16 ass
Dimitri Payet 29 year 45 games 2780 minutes 16 goals 13 ass
Olivier Girioud 29 year 59 games 2986 minutes 29 goals 6 ass
Wayne Rooney 29 year 44 games 2972 minutes 13 goals 6 ass
Alexander Lacazette 25 year 43 games 3463 minutes 23 goals 3 ass
These stats speaks for themselves.
We can only guess but if Zlatan can be injury free and continue one more season in similar style I expect with above statistics in mind somewhere around 15-20 goals and maybe 5-10 ass if he playes 3000+ minutes in all competitions, probably more. Suggestions he should only score 6-7 goals aren't built on statistic relevance. A new transformed United, led by Mourinho, with addition of Zlatan, Mhkitaryan and maybe one more quality RW will defenetly score more then 50 goals a season. I think above numbers works in his favor to hit the net more then 6-7 times Twigg. Don't you think?
Ahh ok so 4th of July is going to be renamed Zlatan day.
"Today we celebrate our Inde..Zlatan Day"
Zlatan doesn't do ordinary days
At the very least, it would be great to have a consistent free kick & penalty tacker in our team.
he has always turned ip in the Euros, scoring important goals vs Italy, Spaim, Greece, France etc.
Giggs? Best?
How did their tournament careers go?
At least Zlatan has gotten his side there and scored tournament goals against Italy, Spain & France.
is this a trick question?
This iteration of a Swedish NT was the most inexperienced and weak side we've fielded in years. He can only carry them for so much. Trying to draw conclusions off of this tournament is a fool's game.
I dont give a shite what Zlatan does or doesnt in a Sweden shirt.
What matters are his qualities as a player and his numbers in club football and those are amazing.
What matters are his qualities as a player and his numbers in club football and those are amazing.
Sweden were dreadful in the tournament and would have been nowhere near the competition had he not dragged them there in the first place. And despite playing with dross, his goal, that was wrongfully disallowed, could have put them through last night. It's not as if he was squandering chances and miscontrolling the ball in the way that certain other stars have done at tournament time. And there are plenty of other top attackers who have underwhelmed far more after great seasons - Ronaldinho in 2006, Ronaldo in 2010 and 2014 (it's hard to place him this summer, given last night's goals set against how wasteful he was in the first two games), Rooney in most tournaments post-2004, Henry in 2002, Zidane in 1996, Messi in 2011. Even in this competition, Lewandowski and Muller have been poor despite getting some good service.
Nope, but you said he didn't show up for the tournament, "not for the 1st time."... well he's scored against Spain, Italy and France in previous Euros so what do you mean there?
And then you wrote:
"no excuses, plenty of times big players still shine for weak teams."... so was there no excuse for Giggs or Best either? Personally I think both had a very legitimate excuse as they were fighting a losing battle and not making a tournament does not diminish their status amongst the best.
Time to get this sorted.
I admitted it wasn't likely. I just wouldn't be surprised
I'd like Zlatan, but am also not overly fussed if he were to choose another club.It's been agreed for weeks. Fair enough if you are a bit nervous and don't want to get your hopes up, but it's going to happen.
He's definitely not going back to PSG that's for sure
At least it would be in June and United would have plenty of time to chase another target who isn't 34/35
Personally I think United should go all out for Harry Kane. Offer him 200k per week and give him a release clause in case we finish outside the CL places again.
How could you not be surprised? Did you not see the massive farewell, the tears from him and his teammates? The tweets from Zlatan about leaving as a legend? The videos and tweets from PSG and his teammates?
It'd be the most surprising thing in a long time.
The stats really show how he plays for the best team in a one horse league. Break those down and things look very different. In the CL for example, he's only scored 5 goals, the same amount as Giroud, Willian and Javier Hernandez.
That your only predicting 15-20 goals doesn't sound too optimistic either.
Except he didn't perform poorly yesterday. He held up the ball really well and won a lot of aerial duels vs the Belgian defense (something none of our current forwards are capable of). Plus he had a goal wrongfully disallowed that would have taken Sweden through to the next round. He had a good game yesterday considering the shite he's surrounded with.
Ibra has played most of his career in leagues that are not as competitive as the PL and playing week in, week out in PL is much tougher for most new signings let alone a 35yr old.
Yes he may have good stats but in less competitive leagues. How long will he need to adapt to the fast-paced football in PL? Unless of course he is coming to be a back-up striker to Rashford/ a new striker
Yes he may have good stats but in less competitive leagues. How long will he need to adapt to the fast-paced football in PL? Unless of course he is coming to be a back-up striker to Rashford/ a new striker
You did notice that Leciester just won the league and you saw how many goals Vardy, Giroud, Ighalo, Defoe racked up right? You did see how often he bullied the best CB in the Prem 2016 last night?
Zlatan as a back-up, come on now @Bruno8
34 he is Bruno.
What kind of comment is that? He scored 5 goals in 10 games in the UCL, what do you mean ONLY
Whilst at PSG he scored 20 UCL goals in 33 games, it's impressive.
Ridiculous eh from @Born2Lose
And as I posted in response, it was more goals than Benzema, Neymar and Sanchez but he just nicely cherry-picked the names that fitted in with his bizarre post.
Aguero 9 CL games, 2 goals
Diego Costa 8 games, 2 goals
Zlatan was 8th best scorer in the CL this season. Not bad at all.
In 2013/14 he was 2nd with 10 goals in 8 games. Even better than Messi.
*giggle*
Shhhhh, facts not allowed around here mate
You don't perhaps think some of the delay is around Zlatan perhaps being keen to play his last top-tier season for a club that has champions league?
I've watched all the interviews with him and he doesn't ever really say yes to United. He's certainly flirting with us, but I wonder if he's really serious.
Conversely, it might be the ultimate send-off for his ego to put us back in the CL as his final act? Not sure... I'm probably getting fidgety and it's nowhere near that time yet.
I've watched all the interviews with him and he doesn't ever really say yes to United. He's certainly flirting with us, but I wonder if he's really serious.
Conversely, it might be the ultimate send-off for his ego to put us back in the CL as his final act? Not sure... I'm probably getting fidgety and it's nowhere near that time yet.
Ha not for me.
A). I'm tight
B). This goal figure you'd be satisfied with gets lower by the day.
Double figures? You'd bloody hope so. Rooney's just had a shocking season and he got 15 playing in midfield half the time (I think).
If that's all you want from a striker there's lots of options out there. Some of them already at the club.
Zlatan + serious interviews don't go together. Its very likely he's ours.
I think he is gonna score some spectacular goals, but not be a gamechanger for us. I'd rather we get someone with a future.
Martial and Rashford are the future. Zlatan will help out short term whilst the aforementioned develop their game and learn from one of the world's best.
It really is a no brainer of a transfer in my opinion.
Bruno Bruno.... less competitive leagues? You should be careful with comparing the PL with other leagues, it may not always works in your favor. Serie A clubs is no push overs and Zlatan represented the big three in Italy. He also played for Barca and PSG. There most be a reason these clubs wanted him.
Your next suggestion is about playing week in and week out. The young 22 year old super talented Harry Kane, the new English golden boy, played in total 3838 minutes this season. A grand total of 135 minutes more then his 12 year older colleague who btw scored 22 more goals and 14 more assist this season then England's finest. I agree that the French league is probably easier but he still produced the numbers and played more or less as many minutes as many other high profile strikers around.
Your last thing about Rashford was funny, I will give you that. At least you have humor.
And what exactly are we doing with Rashford?
Agreed.
I really hope there's a plan to sign a future-proof striker. I'm not sure whether Martial would cut it in the middle, but I think banking all our chips on Rashford would be very un-Mourinho. And the stop-gap of Zlatan still means we will sit with this issue in 1 years time, having to bed down another new signing.
I am not sure if Rashford is all that. He has had a great start no doubt about it, but my gut says he won't be world class. I hope I'm wrong.
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