This. I agree with all of this.
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Yup. Free transfer just means no signing fee to the club the player comes from. There will still be a signing on fee for Ibra and his wages and a fee for the agent as well.
Would you be saying that if he signed for Arsenal?
Honestly, this is typical of United. We sign a top class player and everyone starts saying "ooo, he's past it", "he'll flop", etc etc. If any other team signed Zlatan like an Arsenal or a Liverpool, we'd all be talking about what a massive coup it is and how he's gonna rule the Premier League.
Some of our fans complain about everything. If we signed Ronaldo back, there would be at least 10 people on here who'll say it's a bad deal cause it will hinder Rashford's development.
It's laughable sometimes.I don't think the age is an issue given what I just mentioned in the last post - its a one or two year arrangement to get an instant top notch goal scorer. Even if you think the French league is horrible and subtract a third of the 51 goals he knocked in there, you're still left with a 30 goal a year striker. When you couple that with Martial and Rashford developing another year and producing incrementally more, it will be a good fit. We don't need to be looking well into the future with Zlatan - he is a now player who will fulfill a specific purpose, which is to get us back into the CL and potentially win it in a 2nd year.
Yes of course mate i'm just being a sarcy cnut to be honest. This is potentially a good move for United and i would actually like to see it happen, but despite what people keep saying it's not an inexpensive or free one.
Along with his wages, signing on fee, agents fee and with rumours of an £8m pay off if we decide against an optional second year. It's looking like one of the most expensive 'free' transfers in history.
Giggsy and Scholesy come to mind, both playing at a high level in midfield, which requires more running and stamina. Not that Zlatan would have any problems with that, seems to be in top shape. Lampard, Terry & Rio also were on top of their game at 34 yrs of age.
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We might save a bit of money in leverage when we try to sign other players though, since Ibra + Mourinho is a draw that might help us there. Also if we move on from Rooney a season faster because we have Ibra, presumably in 2017, the money saved will be massive.
Would you be saying that if he signed for Arsenal?
Honestly, this is typical of United. We sign a top class player and everyone starts saying "ooo, he's past it", "he'll flop", etc etc. If any other team signed Zlatan like an Arsenal or a Liverpool, we'd all be talking about what a massive coup it is and how he's gonna rule the Premier League.
Some of our fans complain about everything. If we signed Ronaldo back, there would be at least 10 people on here who'll say it's a bad deal cause it will hinder Rashford's development.
We would be bricking it if he signed for Arsenal, City, or Liverpool.
Henry or Suarez both played in England in the last decade and i would say both rival Ibrahimovic in terms of skill.
Not sure i understand this bit mate?
Rooney has another 3 years left on his current deal, and i don't see him leaving before that ends.
same feeling like when we signed Falcao/DiMaria,but hope for different result
Would you be saying that if he signed for Arsenal?
Honestly, this is typical of United. We sign a top class player and everyone starts saying "ooo, he's past it", "he'll flop", etc etc. If any other team signed Zlatan like an Arsenal or a Liverpool, we'd all be talking about what a massive coup it is and how he's gonna rule the Premier League.
Some of our fans complain about everything. If we signed Ronaldo back, there would be at least 10 people on here who'll say it's a bad deal cause it will hinder Rashford's development.
Actually, I think his personality would have helped us, yes. We have a few players who are just ridiculously immature and naive like Ox for example; that could do with a stern telling off from a more experienced teammate.
Football wise, he doesnt fit our system. Its a good signing for United, don't get me wrong. You needed to make a big name signing to show the world you are still trying to mean business - I simply am saying I don't think it will work out.
Would you be saying that if he signed for Arsenal?
Honestly, this is typical of United. We sign a top class player and everyone starts saying "ooo, he's past it", "he'll flop", etc etc. If any other team signed Zlatan like an Arsenal or a Liverpool, we'd all be talking about what a massive coup it is and how he's gonna rule the Premier League.
Some of our fans complain about everything. If we signed Ronaldo back, there would be at least 10 people on here who'll say it's a bad deal cause it will hinder Rashford's development.
It's like when we signed RVP for 25M, some said he's injury prone and past it
I am guessing a one year deal with option for another year.
How expensive is he going to be? Our bargaining position is strong. Who else is after him? Where would he go if not to us?
I would imagine a man of his pride and ego would relish one last hurrah with another of the biggest clubs and best managers in the world.
Last few seasons we lacked real steel, leadership and swagger in the team. Our players were too soft and as often said here, mentally weak.
Every Manchester United team used to have a one or two players with a combination of intelligence, leadership, grit, steel and swagger. Robson, Bruce, Cantona, Keane, Ronaldo, Rio, Vidic are some key names that come to mind. Zlatan is many of those, plus wise-cracks, quasi-philosophical quips and unabashed arrogance in the media.
I fully expect Zlatan not to mope in the dressing 3-0 down to Spurs at half-time, but say, "FFS its Tottenham, lads!", or something to that effect.
I don't know if he will suit the pace of the Premiership. But technically, not many in the team come close to him. Personally I am not looking to Zlatan for 20 goals a season. The numbers are not what I want from Zlatan.
I want his experience. I want his confidence. I want him to strut into Old Trafford as if he owns the place. I want this to rub off on our players. I want our players to know they own the stadium every time they step on the grass.
The last 3 years we have lost much of the devil in us. I want Mourinho to bring that back. And there is hardly any player than Zlatan who's got that in spades.
I appreciate a lot of the analysis about past seasons and comparisons with Di Maria and Falcao. But to me, what these players have lacked is the sheer force of the personality and belief that Zlatan has.
Make no mistake, players like Cantona, Keane, Robson and Rio were no slouches when it came to the technical game, but it was their presence, confidence and leadership that we remember and feel the effects of.
It is such a low-risk signing. I really hope the news of Zlatan coming to United is true.
How expensive is he going to be? Our bargaining position is strong. Who else is after him? Where would he go if not to us?
I would imagine a man of his pride and ego would relish one last hurrah with another of the biggest clubs and best managers in the world.
Last few seasons we lacked real steel, leadership and swagger in the team. Our players were too soft and as often said here, mentally weak.
Every Manchester United team used to have a one or two players with a combination of intelligence, leadership, grit, steel and swagger. Robson, Bruce, Cantona, Keane, Ronaldo, Rio, Vidic are some key names that come to mind. Zlatan is many of those, plus wise-cracks, quasi-philosophical quips and unabashed arrogance in the media.
I fully expect Zlatan not to mope in the dressing 3-0 down to Spurs at half-time, but say, "FFS its Tottenham, lads!", or something to that effect.
I don't know if he will suit the pace of the Premiership. But technically, not many in the team come close to him. Personally I am not looking to Zlatan for 20 goals a season. The numbers are not what I want from Zlatan.
I want his experience. I want his confidence. I want him to strut into Old Trafford as if he owns the place. I want this to rub off on our players. I want our players to know they own the stadium every time they step on the grass.
The last 3 years we have lost much of the devil in us. I want Mourinho to bring that back. And there is hardly any player than Zlatan who's got that in spades.
I appreciate a lot of the analysis about past seasons and comparisons with Di Maria and Falcao. But to me, what these players have lacked is the sheer force of the personality and belief that Zlatan has.
Make no mistake, players like Cantona, Keane, Robson and Rio were no slouches when it came to the technical game, but it was their presence, confidence and leadership that we remember and feel the effects of.
It is such a low-risk signing. I really hope the news of Zlatan coming to United is true.
Son of God
I want to see premier league teams defending against Martial, Zaltan and Rashford at the same time.
We're getting a player who is leaving a CL team after a world class season to join a team not in the CL. Bizarre post.
I want to see premier league teams defending against Martial, Zaltan and Rashford at the same time.
how about you add in Griezmann in the mix. Nice attacking options
The execution there is unbelievable as it is but what impresses me more every time on seeing that clip is the sheer audacity of attempting it from that distance and the imagination to decide to try bicycle kick at that moment.Yeah, of course.
Shite.
Were signing him for 1 year (if he does well possibly 2) it's not like we're signing him for 5 years. We need a proven goalscorer and 1 of the best we can get without having CL football. Rashford will continue to develop and we can scout a replacement for him over the next year or so. All our problems won't be fixed in a year, I don't expect an overhaul this year but 2-3 years time we'll look a better younger team. We need to do what we need to do right now.
I do not know how I feel about this signing. He has the arrogance and the charisma to play for us, I am not sure if he'll be as effective as he was in France in this league. One year deal doesn't sound a bad idea, though.
Zlatan, Martial and Rashford are not bad options if we plan to play one up top. Need to add another top attacker with goals in the team.
Zlatan, Martial and Rashford are not bad options if we plan to play one up top. Need to add another top attacker with goals in the team.
I agree with your whole post, but definitely with the part quoted above. Unbelievable, still amazes me to this day.
One of the best goals I've ever seen, 99% of players would just try to control the ball take another touch and shoot, this is just what Zlatan does and that's what I want to see if he joins us, hopefully he has at least one season in him unlike rooney who was also capable of surprising superb finishes but massively faded away with no tricks left.. premier league won't be easy to adapt too but feck it sign Zlatan, his name on the back of the shirt itself calls for erectionYeah, of course.
Shite.
We don't need all that many though I think. Just whoever we have on the right has to be able to pitch in with like 10 goals. Ibrahimovic and Martial can both get 20+ in all comps (pretty confident both will), Rooney another 10-15, Rashford 10ish, whoever is on the right a similar amount, and then the rest of the team pitching in with goals here and there as always. Shouldn't forget Mata who is always good for 10, though who knows what his role will be like. Ibrahimovic and someone on the right who can score now and then (though mainly create) and we should be good I think.
Wasn't talking about another striker. I should clarified that I was talking about a top right side attacker with goals in him.
Couldn't disagree with you more. Won a bunch of titles in Italy and France when there was little to no competition. It's not impressive at all.
How many have you won? a title is a title it's a massive accomplishment.
He won titles when Milan was still at full-force in a Juventus side.
Teams he's played for has won titles, it's not a coincidence.
Do you think 13 titles is a coincidence? None of Milan, Inter and Juve had won the league the year before Ibra came to them.
Leicester won the league in the EPL this year, to a large extent due to Arsenal, United, City and Chelsea failing. Had United won the league this year with Zlatan, ahead of Leicester, would you be consequent and say it was because of a lack of competition?
-----------De Gea--------
Varela-Smalling-X--Shaw
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------Herrera---Mata----
-Rashford-Zlatan-Martial
Sign 1 world class CB and 1 CM we're good. Blind, Carrick, Rooney can be squad players.
Varela-Smalling-X--Shaw
------------TFM----------
------Herrera---Mata----
-Rashford-Zlatan-Martial
Sign 1 world class CB and 1 CM we're good. Blind, Carrick, Rooney can be squad players.
Same guy that said Mata and Blind are definitely off.
Weren't Zlatan's titles with Juve stripped because of Calciopoli? Then Juve were relegated and he won titles with Milan and Inter in a weak Serie A. Then he moved to a one team league. Good on him for winning titles but most of those teams would have won the title without him IMO. Giggs haul of titles is MUCH more impressive than Zlatan's.
I have seen that so many of our fans are more interested in the future that they forget we need to sort out our present first. Zlatan would be a massive coup for us, considering we aren't even in the CL thanks to that loony Dutchman. He would bring a winning mentality and an aggression which seems to have been driven out of our players in 3 years by two incompetent managers.
Mourinho and Zlatan will be a very good combo. Neither man likes losing and will ensure the bar is set high for the rest of the squad from the get-go. That will automatically help us in the long run with this mentality getting ingrained in the youngsters coming through. Once you know losing isn't an option, you will automatically be more passionate and not squeal like teenage girls on the bus/coach.
If LVG was still manager I would expect Zlatan to flop and then spend half the season on the bench. With Mourinho in charge I think this will be a really good signing.
We needed a striker no doubt about it. Our only options are Rooney and Rashford. Martial can play there but he has been so brilliant on the left that there is no reason to change it.
Hopefully Zlatan can bang in 20+ goals this season.
We needed a striker no doubt about it. Our only options are Rooney and Rashford. Martial can play there but he has been so brilliant on the left that there is no reason to change it.
Hopefully Zlatan can bang in 20+ goals this season.
Im expecting a few goals from him late in the game when we're trying to break a team down. Shrug off a defender and blast it in from 25 yards. The sort of goals we've been missing.
We'd get absolutely murdered with that midfield.
We need a right winger or we will have the same problems as last season. Plus imo Varela will struggle under Jose. If we don't sign anyone Valencia Darmain TFM and Jones will play afore him.
Love it. Finally, we're not messing around here. We need goals? Previous manager complained he didn't have a 20 goal a season striker? I'll sign one who scores 50. Easy.
Absolutely. We need to compliment signing Ibra (if we do) with the right signings in attack elsewhere. Two good players with pace + Ibra and we're sorted.
Boy, that still hurts how those two panned out!
Imagine a red hot Falcao and Di Maria in the same team...thought we were gonna dominate when they arrived. Think Ibra will be slightly different though. If anything, at least he will scare the opposition and bring some of the fear factor back to OT.I'm in!
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