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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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Mciahel Goodman said:
He only scored four goals, though.

I had some reservations, but I saw that Sky Sports clip and just went full muppet mode. Never would have expected Zlatan to play for us. Can't fecking wait.
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:lol: I know, awful player. And that gif, I mean, standard goal. Anyone can score those. I know it was in Sweden, but I was taking the piss because it is against England, and it's one of my favourite goals of all time, so any excuse to post it really.

I am not his greatest fan but there are so many positives, and they all outweigh the negatives imo. It's only a year, so no massive financial cost, and the shirt sales and merchandise/sponsorship will easily cover the cost. or as near as damn it. The experience he brings, especially in the dressing room. Jeez, that's priceless, and so is the fact he is a true superstar. He will also turn others heads and make them think about signing for United. Then there is the support on the pitch, the experience and skill will be amazing and who better for Martial and Rashford to learn from? And then you have the fact it shows United still have the draw to get top big name players and managers, and it will work wonders for sponsors too. I know people are cautious now, especially after Di Maria, or a better example, Falcao, but this is slightly different and he will want to go out on a high. I honestly can't see how this is a bad thing.

It's definitely a risk (if you can call it that) worth taking, and personally I think United and Mourinho would be absolutely batshit if they turned it down. It could easily be something Jose regretted for the rest of his career, always the "what if" in the back of his mind. Feck it, if he doesn't do well then bench him, he can earn his wages with shirt sales, keeping the fans amused with classic interviews, twitter quotes, arrogant statements and musings, and teaching the youngsters as much as he can.
 
The deal looks like it will happen but it's not there yet. If bbc have it up tomorrow then I'd say it's done, don't trust ssn the same. It's exciting times at United, the mood is changing.Zlat may make the French league look like an easy game of astro turf but he's quality. As many have said it's a relatively risk free move. It would give Rashford and Martial support to improve. It's like a cycle in here, optimisism about a link, deal looks close, player signs and the caf is excited and hilarious then doubt about the player being signed, minutes after.
 
I reckon Sky themselves might play a part in this transfer. I wouldn't be surprised if when they sourced this information, they were also looking to persuade him to join the Premier League themselves. A mutually beneficial friendship, he brings with him millions of viewers and a whole bunch of action, in return they give him plenty of on screen minutes with montage after montage and build the Zlatan hype further.
 
Randall Flagg said:
I disagree with this massively. There is a great skill in being a prolific penalty taker. And it's a massive bonus too

Cantona and RVN, were incredible penalty takers and this really contributed

We don't have a great one right now and it's a problem
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Mata will score 3/4 of penalties. If Ibrahimovich scoring 4/5 is a great benefit for a club that probably gets what... 7 penalties per season, which translates to maybe 1 extra goal if we're lucky a year...is that a truly worthy contribution worth celebrating?

The reason I don't give the same credit for penalties is that it's goal displacement, not goal scoring. A penalty taker won't score you extra goals. He'll score them instead of someone else (maybe contributing 1 extra if he's Balotelli-esqe).

Would De Gea be a prolific goalscorer if he scored 15 penalties in a season that we got 20? No... Not at all. He'd be a goalkeeper who'd be judged on his goalkeeping ability.
 
Pexbo said:
I reckon Sky themselves might play a part in this transfer. I wouldn't be surprised if when they sourced this information, they were also looking to persuade him to join the Premier League themselves. A mutually beneficial friendship, he brings with him millions of viewers and a whole bunch of action, in return they give him plenty of on screen minutes with montage after montage and build the Zlatan hype further.
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Synergy.
 
langster said:
:lol: I know, awful player. And that gif, I mean, standard goal. Anyone can score those. I know it was in Sweden, but I was taking the piss because it is against England, and it's one of my favourite goals of all time, so any excuse to post it really.

I am not his greatest fan but there are so many positives, and they all outweigh the negatives imo. It's only a year, so no massive financial cost, and the shirt sales and merchandise/sponsorship will easily cover the cost. or as near as damn it. The experience he brings, especially in the dressing room. Jeez, that's priceless, and so is the fact he is a true superstar. He will also turn others heads and make them think about signing for United. Then there is the support on the pitch, the experience and skill will be amazing and who better for Martial and Rashford to learn from? And then you have the fact it shows United still have the draw to get top big name players and managers, and it will work wonders for sponsors too. I know people are cautious now, especially after Di Maria, or a better example, Falcao, but this is slightly different and he will want to go out on a high. I honestly can't see how this is a bad thing.

It's definitely a risk (if you can call it that) worth taking, and personally I think United and Mourinho would be absolutely batshit if they turned it down. It could easily be something Jose regretted for the rest of his career, always the "what if" in the back of his mind. Feck it, if he doesn't do well then bench him, he can earn his wages with shirt sales, keeping the fans amused with classic interviews, twitter quotes, arrogant statements and musings, and teaching the youngsters as much as he can.
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I agree. My sentiments perfectly summed up: on a free, small risk, potentially great reward. Why the feck not?
 
we need a player with a hint of arrogance in this team. ibra would be perfect addition.
 
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DiMarzio reporting that we agreed wages with Zlatan, but we are still negotiating the agent fee.
 
ottosec said:
DiMarzio reporting that we agreed wages with Zlatan, but we are still negotiating the agent fee.
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Was waiting for Di Marzio to confirm it (which says something about Sky Sports' level of journalism these days). Pretty much done, then, you'd think.
 
I'm not that impressed to be honest. Maybe if we'd have signed him 8 yrs ago. It's a sign of how far we've fallen In my opinion.
 
I'm still feeling a little bit cautious about this one but I can get on board with it. Even if it doesn't work out, it definitely beats signing Jamie fecking Vardy.
 
MileHighRed said:
I'm not that impressed to be honest. Maybe if we'd have signed him 8 yrs ago. It's a sign of how far we've fallen In my opinion.
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We should've signed him the year Ruud left. That said, he is coming off a career best year last season.
 
stevoc said:
In terms of league titles won, only Giggs can match him i think in the last 25-30 years.

Ibrahimovic's 13 titles are probably more impressive though considering they came in 15 years and in 4 different countries and 5 different clubs.

Though Giggs to be fair has won loads more of everything else.
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Good call.

But watching Zlatan all these years he's always seemed to be the dominant force for his club. Giggs was fantastic in his peak years but he was never quite the dominant player Zlatan has been for the last decade.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
I agree. My sentiments perfectly summed up: on a free, small risk, potentially great reward. Why the feck not?
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Yup, exactly. The more I think about it, the less it makes sense to NOT want it. I honestly, seriously cannot see any reason why anyone would be against this deal. It makes sense on every single level. Aside from injury (a risk you take when buying ANY player) I honestly cannot see any negatives whatsoever. And another plus to it is that everyone has said we have needed a striker, a top scorer. People have been saying it for a while now. Well here is one, AND it gives Martial and Rashford a year with one of the greatest strikers in modern football, and that year is another year they can develop to become first choice players. It could save United purchasing someone else on a longer deal that wouldn't be needed. I also think it's very reminiscent of the Henrik Larsson signing a few years back. It was a shame we never signed him when he was younger, but it was nice we at least had the chance to see him, and can say we saw him in a United shirt.

Yup, the more I think about it, the more excited I get, but the more in makes sense in every way. Footballing and financial it's a fecking no-brainer.

MileHighRed said:
It's a sign of how far we've fallen In my opinion
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That's just daft, exceedingly negative and also not accurate either because when have United ever really had any top, big name, world class players in the squad? We have never had the really big top name players at United. Fergie nurtured Ronaldo and had to sell him before he reached his prime, and Fergie's last big name signing was when he bought RvP when he was nearing the end of his career. Nearly everything United won under Fergie was with top English talent that Fergie and the club nurtured from very young, but he never really had what you would call the top tier world beating players. With the exception of Rooney and maybe Rio, most other players were bought quite cheaply and turned in to great players, and others who were top price like Nani or Anderson were flops. Yeah, he might have always been interested in the top players, and like Ronaldinho, United may have bid, but we never ever got them.

I would say that United's biggest ever signing was Angel Di Maria, and 1. look how that turned out, and 2. He wasn't signed under Fergie. I can understand you not wanting Ibra, but to say his signing is a sign of how far the club has fallen is daft. No offence intended but honestly If anything your comment is a sign of how far the forums have fallen and how ludicrously high the expectations of some of the fans has risen in the last few years, especially since the departure of Sir Alex.
 
MileHighRed said:
I'm not that impressed to be honest. Maybe if we'd have signed him 8 yrs ago. It's a sign of how far we've fallen In my opinion.
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I don't understand.
He is involved in a goal every 50 minutes in Ligue 1 this season. We need a veteran striker who can provide cover and support for Rashford's development. 38 goals 13 assists....how far we have fallen indeed.
 
Welcome to the Premier League LEGEND.

How can you be a United fan and NOT be buzzing about this? He is probably the second best striker in the world after Suarez. Top 5 players in the world easily.

Stop looking at his age! He scored 38 goals this season. And he scores all types of goals. If you watched him regularly, you wouldn't have any complaints about him cause he still plays like he's 28. There is absolutely no doubt he will be able to handle the PL physically. His strength and dominance is immense.

This is gonna be the best season ever. :drool:
 
Obiorahking_ said:
I don't understand.
He is involved in a goal every 50 minutes in Ligue 1 this season. We need a veteran striker who can provide cover and support for Rashford's development. 38 goals 13 assists....how far we have fallen indeed.
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38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
 
MileHighRed said:
38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
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The age is not really an issue given that he is performing like many of us might expect from a 28 year old in his prime. He is not a long term signing, more like a Tevez type 1 or 2 year lease, during which the likes of Martial and Rashford can develop without being forced to carry all the water.
 
MileHighRed said:
38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
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Moot argument. Countless phenomenal Premier League legends have came from that "shit League 1"
What does age have to do with anything? He just came off his best season at 34 years old. Is 1 year going to make a huge difference?
 
MileHighRed said:
38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
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Why does his age matter? If he can score 38 goals, who gives a feck. He can obviously still do it.

Besides, some of those goals came in the Champions League. And what about all the International games he scores in? I suppose they're all against "shit" teams aswell. Well guess what... we couldn't beat the likes of Norwich and Bournemouth this season relying on Rooney. Zlatan at 34 is more in his "prime" than Rooney at 30. That much is evident.
 
MileHighRed said:
38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
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If he can give us 1 good season, it'll be worth it. Look at what a difference a 29-30 year old van Persie made for us. Zlatan looks to be in amazing shape for a 34 year old... Comparable to the shape Ronaldo is in right now. The body doesn't fit the age sometimes. What really matters? Age or actual physical characteristics?
 
Not sure what to think of this one. I mean he could hamper more than help if things go wrong. He's scored 5 goals in over 20 appearances against English clubs and 3 of them came in one game against us where our defence was absolutely diabolical (as per usual, I know).

So that means he hasn't scored in ~17 appearances against English opposition. If I'm being honest, I think he won't do as well as United fans hope but it will certainly be interesting this season!
 
Spock said:
Good call.

But watching Zlatan all these years he's always seemed to be the dominant force for his club. Giggs was fantastic in his peak years but he was never quite the dominant player Zlatan has been for the last decade.
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True Giggs was never the main man at United like Ibrahimovic has been with some of his teams. But on the other hand to be fair Giggs played in better teams and with arguably better players than Ibrahimovic ever has bar his failed year at Barca.
 
Raoul said:
The age is not really an issue given that he is performing like many of us might expect from a 28 year old in his prime. He is not a long term signing, more like a Tevez type 1 or 2 year lease, during which the likes of Martial and Rashford can develop without being forced to carry all the water.
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Of course it's an issue. We should be looking for a 26-27 yr old striker. There aren't any easy games in the premiership. Name me one player who did it at a top club in england at the age of 34 in the last 10 yrs?
 
MileHighRed said:
38 goals in shit League 1 though on a loaded PSG team. I'm not saying he's isn't a class player, but he's 34! Tell me the last player Real Madrid or Barca signed at 34? We should be signing him when he's entering his prime and putting those stats up for us!
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Thuram to Barca 2006. Played in a physically more demanding position, too, I’d say.
 
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