it goes further back than 10 years. he's won the league almost every year since 01
Edit : didn't win the league in only 2 seasons since 2001
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Edit : didn't win the league in only 2 seasons since 2001
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but they didn't report "despite what his agent says, we understand..."
Bouhafsi had this story first (and Martial) and is worth following if your French isn't too bad.
Right but this was after the original story from a reputable French journalist that such a contract offer had been made
It feels slightly concerning. Having a 34 year old on massive money who's been playing in a weaker french league for the past few years as first choice with the only back up being a promising teenager and a striker who may no longer be a striker any more. But then again it's only for year and it's fecking Zlatan. I fear it may go the way of Berbatov in that we'll only see a few glimpses of how brilliant he can be but at least those brief moments are awesome to watch.
Rooney will probably be Jose's number 10 but the key is having adequate pace on the outside to compensate. Martial has quick pace, so we need to find a similar player for RW.Im going to be the sane guy in this forum and wondeer how we can accomodate both rooney and zlatan in the same team.
We've also got Martial as back-up
I wonder if this is Uniteds new ploy.
Good news fridays/saturdays.
1st The FA cup
Then Jose confirmed
Then Zlatan
I wonder who'll win? Will United run out of good news first or will I lose the will to keep getting drunk celebrating it.
Good news fridays/saturdays.
1st The FA cup
Then Jose confirmed
Then Zlatan
I wonder who'll win? Will United run out of good news first or will I lose the will to keep getting drunk celebrating it.
True, but I'm assuming he's going to staying wide left next season.
Incredible. I seriously doubt that any other European footballer over the last 50 years can match Zlatan's record.
I exclude penalties because it doesn't take skill or contribution to score them.
My concern isn't doing it against the big teams, it's doing it against the even semi physical teams (ie maybe 13 or 14 teams in our League). My view is he bashes the weak teams, not the poor teams.
We won't play Rashford abd keep a £250k a week striker on the bench. Have you seen Rooney this season? No player on £250k a week sits on the bench without serious squad animosity.
Even if he plays like Falcao he'll get 30 starts.
So, how many players have won the league in Italy, Spain and England
I can only think of mourinho as manager. But cannot think of a player who has
I can only think of mourinho as manager. But cannot think of a player who has
I disagree with this massively. There is a great skill in being a prolific penalty taker. And it's a massive bonus too
Cantona and RVN, were incredible penalty takers and this really contributed
We don't have a great one right now and it's a problem
I'm more likely to believe this is true since it's being presented with a very pro Woodward and Mourinho narrative. Be delighted to sign Zlatan because we badly need a stop gap quality striker.
I wonder if anyone has won the title in 5 different countries...he could be the first
To satisfy my OCD he better move to Bayern if he wins it with us
No player has, Mourinho only coach to have. So yeah, Zlatan could be the first player.
Mateja Kezman is the closest I think. Yugoslavia, Netherlands, England, Turkey, Belarus. Think there's question marks over the last as he only had 6 appearances so hard to say if he got the medal or not.
Behave.
He could flop. 35 before the year is out and, fit though he seems, that will certainly have an impact sometime soon. Nobody lasts forever and at his age we're on borrowed time.
That said, that borrowed time could prove to be very profitable for us in the short term. Plus, football ability aside, the club could do with a hero after the last few tumescent years. Whatever else he brings, Ibra certainly marks a change from the Van Gaal type ethos.
So why not?
That said, that borrowed time could prove to be very profitable for us in the short term. Plus, football ability aside, the club could do with a hero after the last few tumescent years. Whatever else he brings, Ibra certainly marks a change from the Van Gaal type ethos.
So why not?
Rivaldo came close to 5 different league titles. Surprised he didn't win one at Milan (but did win the Champions League).
He did win the Uzbekistan League though. Messi and Ronaldo never won that.
He did win the Uzbekistan League though. Messi and Ronaldo never won that.
That page doesnt bode well for the Eriedivisie . He pretty much stopped scoring after leaving PSV.
Good signing but we need more quality and depth in the wide areas now I'm happy with having Rashford,Ibra and Martial as our strikers going into a season where really we'll only be concentrating on the league but well get injuries lets hope Depay can step up to the plate and we sign a quality player out wide. I've a feeling we'll see Rashford pushed out to the right a times this season and I don't know how he'll get on out there hopefully we see him at striker more fingers crossed.
The other qualities that he would bring are exactly what we need. Charisma and inspiration. We have no one with the right amounts of confidence/experience/ability that can give us that at the moment.
Dare to Zlatan.
In terms of league titles won, only Giggs can match him i think in the last 25-30 years.
Ibrahimovic's 13 titles are probably more impressive though considering they came in 15 years and in 4 different countries and 5 different clubs.
Though Giggs to be fair has won loads more of everything else.
Always been shite in England, don't see it changing
overpaid cock-knocking shirt salesman incoming...
overpaid cock-knocking shirt salesman incoming...
Cautiously satisfied with this. I agree with all the arguments that he's minimal risk due to contract length/lack of fee but I do have an inkling he may struggle in the Premier League. If you look at that compilation of his goals this season, no way is he getting that space in the prem.
That being said, he's a winner and his presence will, I'm sure, benefit us. Not a bad signing at all, but more needed if we're to return to the top table IMO.
That being said, he's a winner and his presence will, I'm sure, benefit us. Not a bad signing at all, but more needed if we're to return to the top table IMO.
You can't be serious?
If that was the case, everyone would take penalties the same way and that's clearly not the case.
Do you think Rooney takes the same exact penalties as Ibra?
I only hope he's not guaranteed starter for all games and won't bitch out that he's not played if rashford gets a chance.. think also there is space only for one of rooney - zlatan. It's not a step back if he's here only for one season, he will have on impact on youth but again he shouldn't be guaranteed starter for all games but I hope Jose will sort this out..
Looking at that list of his games:
1. Zlatan had 4G + 2A in 8 games against the best non-French teams he played in Chelsea, Shakhtar, Real Madrid and Man City.
2. Against the 4 other French teams who seem to have had solid seasons (Lyon were a solid +24, Nice were +17 and while Lille were 4th in GD, they only conceded 27 goals, which implies solidity defensively, Monaco were only +7 but finished 3rd and came off a fine season), Zlatan posted 7G + 2A in 8 games.
So, if we assume the foreign teams in point 1 are roughly equivalent to the average of the top 8 in England (City are there, Madrid fair bit better, Chelsea (though in the CL not as awful) last year fair bit worse, Shaktar probably around the level of 5th-6th) and that the 4 domestic sides I included are roughly equivalent to average bottom half sides (with Ligue 1 having such a down year), you'd basically have a decent 14 games cross-section resembling the Prem. Probably a shade tougher but he had Verratti and Di Maria there to create so it's not unfair to be a bit ungenerous.
Zlatan's "Top Level Season" numbers would be 11G + 4A in 16 games. Double the numbers since 32 games would be about a normal healthy season for a striker with a couple of EL and Cup rest, a suspension and then 2-3 games injured and we have a season of 22G + 8A.
Not proper dominant, but basically just below the goalscoring feats of Kane (25) and Vardy (24) and Aguero's 22 in far less game time, but with more assists than Vardy (6) and far more than Kane (1) or Aguero (2). Or looking at other target 9s, Giroud had 16G + 6A and Lukaku had 18G + 6A.
That seems totally plausible to me, that at 34 Zlatan would be Giroud with 30% more goals or 90% of a Kane/Vardy goalscoring but far more creative and likely to provide an assist. On the whole, we'd be talking about a striker at but not above the level of the top 5 of Kane, Aguero and whoever jumps up next year, likely 2 from a healthy Sturridge, bouncing back Diego Costa or an improving (as a young player or with better teammates) Lukaku.
Having only seen about 5 PSG games last year, mostly CL, I'd say this sounds right. Zlatan's skills are incredible but he has definitely slowed down and PSG played a fairly languid, conservative style in which possession was largely used to defend until a truly killer ball was available or a fullback/winger could get in behind. If you watch the video of Zlatan's goals, he scored a lot of tap ins, which PSG created due to the brilliance of Di Maria (and Verrati) and physicality/penetration of Matuidi, Cavani and at times, Lucas and Aurier.
TLDR: In a normal 30-35 Prem game season, assuming a slight decline from age 34 to 35, coming off a Euros, I would put Zlatan's expected numbers for us at 20G and 6A, which would make him likely the 2nd-4th most productive striker in the league.
Beckham could have been that player had he stayed one more year at Milan. He's won in France though.
He only scored four goals, though.Yeah, of course.
Shite.
I had some reservations, but I saw that Sky Sports clip and just went full muppet mode. Never would have expected Zlatan to play for us. Can't fecking wait.
Heard Damien has a soft spot for poems, try writing him one, might make him want to help you
I like this post.
Guys I don't want to jinx it but with Mourinho and Zlatan there is absolutely no chance that we won't be champions next season.
in Stockholm I believe,
what about this compelling info?
ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC'S RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH TEAMS (Daily Mail couple years back)
Team Games Goals
Arsenal 7 3
Liverpool 4 0
Manchester United 2 0
Tottenham 2 0
Chelsea 1 0
TOTAL 16 3
what about this compelling info?
ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC'S RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH TEAMS (Daily Mail couple years back)
Team Games Goals
Arsenal 7 3
Liverpool 4 0
Manchester United 2 0
Tottenham 2 0
Chelsea 1 0
TOTAL 16 3
I am still shocked.
What a difference a manager makes
What a difference a manager makes
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