Oh I dunno, Pogba has a go at least 3 times per match. He just doesn't get past the first man.
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Oh I dunno, Pogba has a go at least 3 times per match. He just doesn't get past the first man.
I must say I havent been a fan of getting Ibrahimovic. Even though I guess its nice to see him in a United shirt.
I thought he would do good enough this season, but I didnt see United winning the title this year anyhow and I am a little sceptic about how much Ibrahimovic will be able to give after one demanding season of the Premier League.
Therefore I thought it would be better to get an experienced striker to be substitute for Rashford, to get Rashford as much minutes for next season. Obviously Ibrahimovic strikes me as not a player to be accepting easily to be benched.
I dont really know Ibrahimovic that well of course, just like anyone else here, but from how I hear him talking about himself, joking or not, he will not be a back up player. Now he isnt performing as anticipated, it is creating a problem. Benching him, a Mourinho favourite, is a tough decision and will bring more pressure on Mourinho.
I would have loved Rashford getting a chance as first striker. It would be acceptable for him to have an off period and substitute him. But it would get him ready for seasons to come. Now Rashford is wasted on the wing, while we have a seemingly undroppable striker who is not going to get better (not meaning formwise but qualitywise).
What is a bit annoying is that he was supposed to bring this winner attitude, bad loser kinda guy, but is seen laughing on the pitch after a trashing from a rival.
I thought he would do good enough this season, but I didnt see United winning the title this year anyhow and I am a little sceptic about how much Ibrahimovic will be able to give after one demanding season of the Premier League.
Therefore I thought it would be better to get an experienced striker to be substitute for Rashford, to get Rashford as much minutes for next season. Obviously Ibrahimovic strikes me as not a player to be accepting easily to be benched.
I dont really know Ibrahimovic that well of course, just like anyone else here, but from how I hear him talking about himself, joking or not, he will not be a back up player. Now he isnt performing as anticipated, it is creating a problem. Benching him, a Mourinho favourite, is a tough decision and will bring more pressure on Mourinho.
I would have loved Rashford getting a chance as first striker. It would be acceptable for him to have an off period and substitute him. But it would get him ready for seasons to come. Now Rashford is wasted on the wing, while we have a seemingly undroppable striker who is not going to get better (not meaning formwise but qualitywise).
What is a bit annoying is that he was supposed to bring this winner attitude, bad loser kinda guy, but is seen laughing on the pitch after a trashing from a rival.
The only point of having Zlatan is making the top 4. If we fail to do that, his signing will turn out to be completely pointless, if not stupid, given that he's 35. We nearly made the top 4 with Rooney, ffs.
People tell me he has immaculate technique. Well, i certainly haven't seen that from his last 5 or 6 games. I don't know if he's bottled it, but he's awful at finishing chances based on those evidence. Hernandez with a lesser technique would have gobbled most of those chances up fallen to him
That is hilariously depressing. The stats in that article are shocking.
I'm not surprised that Zlatan is missing big chances, he's never been very clinical despite scoring many goals for Milan and PSG. I'm surprised about his poor play outside the penalty box though. He was supposed to be very good at playmaking, at creating chances for other players, etc. He's been very disappointing in ths regard. Even when he was scoring goals, his overall game wasn't particularly good albeit many caftards were trying hard to convince themselves that he was doing very well.
He flopped at the only top top club he played before. Given the transfer sum, he's arguably the worst signing in Barca's history. He didn't even reached the CL semis with the clubs where he was a success. He's been excellent only at clubs where he's the undisputable star and everything is organized around him. The problem is that any time those clubs met strong teams in the CL, they collapsed. Because it's not difficult to play against a one-man team when the man isn't Maradona.
He flopped at the only top top club he played before. Given the transfer sum, he's arguably the worst signing in Barca's history. He didn't even reached the CL semis with the clubs where he was a success. He's been excellent only at clubs where he's the undisputable star and everything is organized around him. The problem is that any time those clubs met strong teams in the CL, they collapsed. Because it's not difficult to play against a one-man team when the man isn't Maradona.
Sorry, but we need better.
Lol. Some of the stuff I've read is laughable. If it's not Pogba, it's Ibra. Both players like all the others we've signed arrived here playing superb and end up shit. Not one player over the last few years has lived up to expectations and yet we continue to blames these players? The managers and the club need to look hard at themselves first to why these players continue to implode
Not worried about him in the slightest. Liverpool was a poor performance no doubt, but he had absolutely no support. He was a threat against Chelsea and could have scored a couple of times out of half chances. I'm not worried about his finishing, that will come - he's still getting into the right positions. I'd fancy him to bag a couple against Burnley then go on a run.
You're right. Its the manager's fault Ibrahimovic has missed noteable key chances in the last few games.
Funny...read the post rather than the forum Tourette's of having a dog that needs to be kicked. Felliani threads will accommodate you. I'm not saying anything other than the problems are more entrenched than any single players form.
The manager and coaching staff has changed 3 times in 4 years.
At this points it's pretty much just us fans that have been the consistent thread through all this. Is it our fault?
Yet again more stupidity from you. Why do you think we have had changed managers 3x because they have been great? .....and who appoints the managers? When's the last signing that's consistently proved to be a success since SAF? All these players from different clubs, country's and ages yet still the same outcome.
You're blaming management for "players continuing to implode" in a Zlatan thread. I'm just pointing out that Zlatan's poor form has nothing to do with mis-management.
The headers against Pool and Chelsea were not sitters in my eyes. Liverpool he was going away from goal, only had a tight angle at the back post to hit. Sure he should have got closer but it wasn't EASY.
The 1 against Chelsea was far too high, the fact he is tall and can jump really high makes it look more achievable, but he never got over the ball and heading it down is impossible if you cant nod downwards.
There are certainly some chances he should be doing better with, but I think people expect him to tuck away EVERY chance he gets. At PSG he was getting probably 5/6 clear chances a match, he's lucky to get 2/3 with us at best.
The 1 against Chelsea was far too high, the fact he is tall and can jump really high makes it look more achievable, but he never got over the ball and heading it down is impossible if you cant nod downwards.
There are certainly some chances he should be doing better with, but I think people expect him to tuck away EVERY chance he gets. At PSG he was getting probably 5/6 clear chances a match, he's lucky to get 2/3 with us at best.
So who are you actually blaming?
Blind has been very consistent. It's just a slight dip in form right now but before these last few games he was a mainstay in our team performing very well.
For some perspective, at this same point last year Harry Kane had scored 1 goal in his first 9 games in the the premier league. He ended up top scorer.
Players can go out of form and with the team playing the way it is, it's hardly strange that Zlatan is at the moment.
Players can go out of form and with the team playing the way it is, it's hardly strange that Zlatan is at the moment.
Comparing a young player like Kane who is on the up, with a has been who is winding down is a funny comparison.
He isn't comparing them as players just stating that he could well be out of form and the fact the team around him is poor too is not going to help.
Indeed. we have a number 9 on the wing and the limited Jesse Lingard. We have better options but Jose believes a front 3 of Zlatan, Rashford and Lingard, with Fellaini behind is the way forward
Not really, it's not about their age at all, simply players have gone from having bad starts to ending up top scorers, there are plenty of examples, some older.
There's such a contrast between the hype when he signed and today's comments.
Poor form wasn't supposed to exist with Zlatan. In fact his presence was supposed to stop other players performing badly.
There's also a false narrative picking up pace that he's isolated in games, given no support. It's simply not the case. First half against Liverpool we had plenty of the ball, a lot of it around the areas he occupies. Same against Chelsea. He had enough service and he's been provided with enough goalscoring chances.
There's nothing wrong about Ibra. However at 35 we simply cant rely on him week in week out. Its sort of stupid to do that too considering we've also got Martial and Rashford in the team.
Next year I hope we'll see more pace in the team. The team should utilize a 4-3-3 system with Mkhitaryan on the left, someone like Dembele on the right and Martial or Rashford upfront. Id go for someone like Vardy who'll be good as an extra option but that would be it
Next year I hope we'll see more pace in the team. The team should utilize a 4-3-3 system with Mkhitaryan on the left, someone like Dembele on the right and Martial or Rashford upfront. Id go for someone like Vardy who'll be good as an extra option but that would be it
Some posters here are quite smugly using "i told you so" a little too much, maybe come February he has scored more than 20 goals and bailed the team out a number of times?
He did in the beginning of the season, so why couldnt he regain his form and do it again, hopefully for a longer period of time?
He did in the beginning of the season, so why couldnt he regain his form and do it again, hopefully for a longer period of time?
People around here are kneejerkers who typically can't see beyond the tip of their own noses.
Presumably you guys were pointing this out when two games in myself and other doubters were being tagged in posts?
Who knows. I like to take the long view of what is going to transpire across an entire season instead of contribute to the angry "football didn't make me happy today" kneejerking after we don't play well on a given day.
Exactly my thoughts. Although I'd be sticking with Martial left , Rashford up top and Miki on the right (providing he finds some sort of form). Our problem isn't Zlatan, its the static, slow play. A problem we have had for years.
The best we have played in recent years was that first half V Leicester. Zlatan was in the side that day, but we had runners everywhere. Not sure why that seems to have been a one off performance?
Well you would know. Myself and others were being tagged after just two games. There was no criticism from yourself of that kneejerk reaction when it was in favour of Zlatan. There is now the opinion is a negative one.
I think one poster was tagged 23 times. I don't recall you pointing out how shortsighted that was.
I don't recall tagging you, although I would agree that being positive about our players is better than negative kneejerking.
Not you personally. I just think it's a bit rich to complain now about kneejerk reactions when the Zlatan fan club was at it after two games.
They are the quotes.
It was only bants.
I am not that comfortable with strikers as flank men and TBF you don't need to be an expert of body language to understand that Martial isn't comfortable with that either. Football is so demanding these days that we can have give enough playing time to keep two strikers happy at OT. We only have to make sure that we give them both their fair share of games.
It's fair enough over all. I certainly would rather people be optimistic.
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