That's probably one of his only few flicks that have not been totally and utterly pointless.
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Its hard to tell what the hell is going on here. The two situations are completely different.
He gets involved in the action so he got his contribution to the team effort. What exactly is your problem ?
His foot had the intention of assisting his boot to score. There, mystery solved.
As long as he gets the assist/goal, who cares if it's intentional. We're a team who find it incredibly hard to put the ball in the back of the net so I'll take whatever we get, intentional or not.
You make no sense at all. The two situations are completely different, so no use scrounging up YouTube clips from other games. I've watched this one about twenty times and don't see any indication that he was going for goal. His body simply wasn't positioned for a shot on goal. He flicked the ball on with the complete awareness that Mata might get on the end of it. Just look at his reaction after it goes in - no sign of disappointment that his "backheel attempt on goal" didn't go in, and complete jubilation that his flick to Mata was successful.
So instead of being selfish like he was for 80 minutes and in a great chance to score he chooses to risk and pass it to a teammate that might be there to flick it in? Even tho Mata was behind and there was a defender between them.
Ofc he won't look disappointed dude, his team scored ffs.
Haha you never seen a centre forward using that exact flick to score when they've just got ahead of the ball?
One of my favourite United goals is Sharpe against Barcelona in '94 (I think). Using that exact same technique. I think Rooney scored one last season in almost identical fashion.
I've seen it plenty of times - and they're usually positioned to attempt it. Zlatan's body wasn't even close to being in the right position to do it, therefore his only hope was a flick to Mata.
Seemed abit rusty but likewise, impossible for him to make an impact when so little space for him to operate.
In the end, he decided the game with his assist, so did what he was expected to do.
He now has a good rest with suspension and international week which comes at just the right time for him.
Hoping he comes back to charge us towards CL qualification.
In the end, he decided the game with his assist, so did what he was expected to do.
He now has a good rest with suspension and international week which comes at just the right time for him.
Hoping he comes back to charge us towards CL qualification.
Weird logic. Even if a player is generally selfish, that doesn't mean they never pass the ball. Bizarre to say the least.
Dude just stop. You're making yourself look ridiculous and it's not even funny anymore.
I actually give him credit when due, but your bias knows no boundaries.
Now you know I luvs ya R!
But to definitively say Ibra was flicking that ball on to Mata is a bit of a stretch, even for me who is only marginally less in love with the big Swede than you
I would argue he was flicking it towards net and hoping that if it didn't go in, he knew Mata would do his best to knock it past the keeper and we'd grab the lead.
Either way, like someone else said, we are lucky to have the big Zlatan; let's just enjoy what he brings to the table virtually every week. And remember, without that "flick" the defender would have cleared it and I'm not sure how we would have done with another 30 minutes!
This is one of the best things about Ibra, he does these things on purpose. Sure it doesn't always work but it's not exactly easy to do what he does.
He got the assist, ok game in general. However his selfishness today was very frustrating, the game could have been far easier had he slipped two easy balls to Mkhi for tap ins. Also had a chance to put him through on goal and instead tried to dribble two guys and lost it, as well as a easy cut back to Mata instead of a very difficult chip that missed the bar. Sad to say as he's our top scorer but I also feel our play will improve once he's done here, we're on the cusp of having a devastating counter attack and high tempo forward play like in the last years of RVN.
That's pretty rich for someone with an obvious agenda against one of our players.
Now you know I luvs ya R!
But to definitively say Ibra was flicking that ball on to Mata is a bit of a stretch, even for me who is only marginally less in love with the big Swede than you
I would argue he was flicking it towards net and hoping that if it didn't go in, he knew Mata would do his best to knock it past the keeper and we'd grab the lead.
Either way, like someone else said, we are lucky to have the big Zlatan; let's just enjoy what he brings to the table virtually every week. And remember, without that "flick" the defender would have cleared it and I'm not sure how we would have done with another 30 minutes!
Not really, I always give him credit when it due.
This is correct. But Ruud seemed to be more of a team player even when he was selfish in terms of scoring. Zlatan deserves a lot of credit for the way he has handled himself and scored so many. But he seems to slow down the game and has a lot of bad touches and gives the ball away too cheaply and then walks back instead of trying to win the ball.
He has his qualities but we really need someone who can offer more and is more lethal in front of goal than Zlatan is.
I know eh! Let's get ridThe flick was clearly an attempt on goal. How selfish.
The flick was clearly an attempt on goal. How selfish.
Who else is happy that we'll not be seeing Zlatan for the next 20 days.
Football is supposed to be simple, but some players just make it look so hard.
ZLatan made me go
Football is supposed to be simple, but some players just make it look so hard.
ZLatan made me go
Another great example of why a newbie forum exists.
Can you elaborate that please?
@nii putu's posts. Absolutely brilliant..
Oh god Fracture90, just shut it.
Put me on ignore and bye bye.
He expressed his dissatisfaction (albeit a bit harsh) with Zlatan's performance, nothing crazy tbh.
Yup, it's definitely not you looking ridiculous in this exchange "dude".
Sure you do.
Yeah just checked Rooney is still ahead on 10 and Zlatan has 9, which is a strange stat when you think about it considering the vastly different minutes each has played this season.
Was wondering when you will pop up. Let me guess it was an intentional assist?
It's ridiculous.
Anyway the flick was an assist, you think it isn't so that's that.
Read my previous comments on his good performances before you start talking nonsense as per usual.
Was wondering when you will pop up. Let me guess it was an intentional assist?
Was it a nice little flick into a very dangerous area when he had no other real option? Yeah.
Did he mean to pick out Mata? Only the man himself could tell you that.
Amongst all the horrible football, still thought he was our best outfield player and only player who looked likely to do something. He's not the reason why rest of the players can't bring the ball out quickly, watch how slow our transition is from defence to attack. I get it he's not quick but what is stopping our defenders and midfielders to speed up the play? For the folks obsessed with pace, Rashford has searing pace. How many goals have you seen us score on counter with Rashford in the side? He's spooned most of the chances when he has been put through. Just like having a fast forward allows a team to play more through balls, a target man brings rest of the attackers into play. Why do people always discount that? Don't they watch our games to see how teams set up against us, it's identical in PL. Where would you play through balls if the space is just not there?
Just take a look at Ibra's goal and assists, he basically plays a role every time we score or get a result. We'd be well and truly fecked without him.
Just take a look at Ibra's goal and assists, he basically plays a role every time we score or get a result. We'd be well and truly fecked without him.
Did fine today. Just needs to trust Mkhi more. Could've had couple more if he opted to pass early on.
No other real option? On the edge of 5 yard box? With only the keeper in front of him? And defender besides him that cannot block him?
Yes no other real option whatsoever
I think he tried to score. Every time somebody crosses to his feet he tries the exact same thing. If it went in everyone would say he meant it.
He's ridiculously selfish. I think he's pretty detrimental to our attack as a unit more often than not, but then he gets goals. So i don't know how to judge him really.
Would we play more fluid and get more goals as a whole without him? Maybe. It's a bit like the Van Nistelrooy situation in his final years.
He's ridiculously selfish. I think he's pretty detrimental to our attack as a unit more often than not, but then he gets goals. So i don't know how to judge him really.
Would we play more fluid and get more goals as a whole without him? Maybe. It's a bit like the Van Nistelrooy situation in his final years.
Maybe off-topic. Don't know if I saw wrong a couple of times, but did Mkhi "avoid" passing Ibra a couple of times? A serious question, not meaning anything negative by it, just curious. Hope someone can answer my question. Thanks.
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