10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 46
- Goals
- 28
- Assists
- 9
- Yellow cards
- 8
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Its your negative sentiment that is disturbing. Like a spoiled child in protest after not receiving their preferred Christmas present.
The Stoke chance in the first minute haunts me.
I think people expect him to create much on his own like Messi, but he's not that kind of player. Around shit players he will not lift play much. I've seen him his entire career and when you watch the sweden games you'll see he's the same as he's with United. He can make a good pass, score beautiful goals on his own and hold up play very well. Physical and good with the ball. Some intelligence. But he's not a Zidane and not a Messi. However, he will make the game Zidane plays look even more beautiful and perfect if he's in the same team.
Ibra also demand a lot of his team mates. He refuses to be criticized yet he's the first one to moan over a misplaced pass! Constantly giving peaks by shaking his head, giving you a long hard look, showing where he wanted the ball when it's already out of play. When he fecks shit up he gives a thumb up or a small applaud for the effort given by his team mate.
He's not good with player types like himself (Balotelli, Ljungberg), especially if they don't have the talent to back it up - Ibra hates untalented players! So you need submissive and talented players around him (Veratti, Robinho, and he will reach his highest level. Mata, Pogba suit him as well as Rooney. Other player types he respects are the ones with a soft side in their off field personality and killer instinct on field (Materrazzi, Silva).
With that said I think he's off to a great season goal wise - but I think there's more to come from his play. Just imagine where he'd been if he only converted half of all those bang on sitters!!!! I wonder what the goal record is for players +35 yo in the PL.
Ibra also demand a lot of his team mates. He refuses to be criticized yet he's the first one to moan over a misplaced pass! Constantly giving peaks by shaking his head, giving you a long hard look, showing where he wanted the ball when it's already out of play. When he fecks shit up he gives a thumb up or a small applaud for the effort given by his team mate.
He's not good with player types like himself (Balotelli, Ljungberg), especially if they don't have the talent to back it up - Ibra hates untalented players! So you need submissive and talented players around him (Veratti, Robinho, and he will reach his highest level. Mata, Pogba suit him as well as Rooney. Other player types he respects are the ones with a soft side in their off field personality and killer instinct on field (Materrazzi, Silva).
With that said I think he's off to a great season goal wise - but I think there's more to come from his play. Just imagine where he'd been if he only converted half of all those bang on sitters!!!! I wonder what the goal record is for players +35 yo in the PL.
Even in defence of him missing chances, all of those chances are normally made because of him, down to his positioning and physical presence.
He should score the easy chances. The Man Utd main striker should score easy chances. I really like Ibra but we bought a striker who'd scored 50 times last season. He went a long period not looking like that and it cost us. Van Persie 2013, Van Nistlerooy 2003, that's the standard.
Martial would score more if played in the same position IMO. Still think Zlatan is the cause of the break down of many of our attacks but he is scoring so I can't complain to much. When he leaves is when we will start to see the best of our other attacking players.
So you would prefer if i just ignore the whole match and sing songs of praise for him?
Those aren't the standards, those are one offs.
In your case that might be best.
- If he'd been subbed, he wouldn't have scored.... you'd have preferred that?
- the "majority of the game"..... Really??
That one right next to the post late on in the game v Burnley still haunts me. Still have no clue how he managed that!
It stems from fans who fancy themselves as arm chair tacticians. Any missed chance is critiqued on fantasy scorecards for discussion on web forums.
Well i can't do that. When he's good I'll praise him, when poor I'll criticise him.
How about you go back and read that comment of mine again and pay attention to that part going something like this "he worked hard and deserved to score".
We bought a player whose team mates were Verrati, Motta, Cavani, Di Maria, Matuidi, Pastore, Rabiot.....
..... we don't have them.
I think that is false.
Excuse me mate, are you an actual coach/manager or something in the football industry?
Reckon there are some here, that if Zlatan walked up to them and handed them 500k in cash, would say "fecker could have given me a million".
Haven't you heard ? Apparently looking nervous is a legitimate critique for strikers who score on days we win.
Ehh ? No I'm not. Where did anyone suggest that ?
That's pretty much the logic some are using to rate him.
The way he shields the ball against 2 CBs and drops the ball, so valuable to our attacking play.
Took his chance with the confidence one associates him with. Seemed to know he'd scored before he'd even finished, as he'd got the keeper where he wanted him.
Good to see. Hope he can keep it going.
Good to see. Hope he can keep it going.
I expect little more from him, losing possession like that in the first half was just too bad, he's better player than that..
second half got better so despite trying a bit too much on his own at times and being incredibly slow and unable to press really he tries to make that up with his physicality which is immense and when he scores I can consider this as a good performance overal, just can't miss sitter like he did until he started scoring again..
second half got better so despite trying a bit too much on his own at times and being incredibly slow and unable to press really he tries to make that up with his physicality which is immense and when he scores I can consider this as a good performance overal, just can't miss sitter like he did until he started scoring again..
I just guessed since pretty much everyone that's not pretending he did great tonight is considered to be an "arm chair" tactician in this post of yours, i thought you must be some sort of manager or a coach or an assistant or anything in football industry. My bad.
There's nothing to support this theory.
Fair point, this. It's not by accident that he gets on the end of so many clear cut chances. His movement is top notch.
Martial being a lot more mobile and having pace supports this theory for starters. Zlatan missing multiple sitters for seconds.
I don't need to, I read it the first time..... along with the rest of it.
Was he poor today or not?
What is this obsession with pace on the cafe?
Plenty of players are quick out there. It doesn't mean they're great or effective.
Martial is a worse finisher than Ibra for starters. And his mobility is of no use anyways when his off the ball movement is poor. His link-up/hold-up play is worse. His vision/passing is worse.
And sitters has definitely changed definition when it comes to Ibra. Every missed chance is now a sitter.
Wasn't his greatest game, in terms of link up play and passing. Seemed to have lost the ball quite often, but he was always a presence and got his goal in the end, which was well taken.
He was quite bad in the first half like most of the team but he got better as the game went on. He's quite good at exploiting mistakes from the back 4 and Pogba is pretty good at finding him when that happens.
Martial finishing has been poor this season. Zlatan's movement, physical strength, aerial ability does a lot more for a striker in our set up than raw pace. Speed is incredibly overrated on this forum.
He isn't the kind of player you bitch about during any game. He will always win that argument.
Hopefully not.Are you suggesting he will stop scoring when the season ends ?
I can see why people feel our attack would benefit from more dynamism in the #9 role, but I think people are also kidding themsleves if they think Rashford would be giving us as much as Ibra is right now in terms of goals per game and his presence as the spearhead. If we are still playing him 90 minutes every game as our main #9 this time next season I'd be concerned, but for now it's the right call.
I find it hypocritical of @#07 criticising Ibra yet banging on how we shouldn't have sold Chicharito who hasn't scored in two months and has been missing sitters for fun including open goals.
It's a mark of his quality that he's scored 13, and we know he should have had at least 20 already!
My memory is fine thanks so no need. If you are serious with the 10-15 missed sitters then I think your definition of sitters is beyond absurd.
So arguably the two best CF scoring performances over the last 15 years is the standard for Manchester United? That's a lot of failiures all those other seasons..
Spot on.
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