Yohan Cabaye
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No thanks, should be aiming higher.
Its the same logic that saw us end up with a £28 million substitute
If it was a case of Anderson out and Giggs retiring next summer for sure and possibly more bad news regarding Darren Fletcher, I'd be game for it providing we were aiming for someone a bit better next summer too.
I think you need to have 5 or 6 capable midfielders in a squad aiming for trophies. He's not a worldie but as I say if we endup losing a few bodies and we sign a top player at some point, he'd be an ok option to add to the squad.
I think you need to have 5 or 6 capable midfielders in a squad aiming for trophies. He's not a worldie but as I say if we endup losing a few bodies and we sign a top player at some point, he'd be an ok option to add to the squad.
You make a good point to be fair.
Carrick, (NEW CM), Cabaye, Fellaini, Cleverley... is that your thinking? I would certainly be for it if that new CM is a top class midfielder. I think Giggs will retire and Anderson will be sold and I can't see Fletcher ever being good enough again.
We need a top class midfielder that will dictate play and someone who's creative.
Cabaye is better than Anderson, and Fletcher isn't the answer. Cabaye would probably start ahead of Giggs as well.
Buy Cabaye and win the 2014 Premier League title. Or risk the title and wait until Summer for something much better, which may not happen given how few 'world class' central midfielders there actually are.
I don't think it's the no-brainer you seem to think.
Do you honestly believe we win the league if we sign Cabaye?
If so, he's worth more like £30 million
I think we could win the league without buying anyone. But we have no midfield playmaker to replace Carrick if he gets injured. Thats the main risk i see to Uniteds titie hopes. Cabaye would, to a pretty good degree, cover Carrick. Plenty on here never thought Carrick was good enough for United. And probably many still don't. But he's bloody important.
Why is it outrageous? He's fecking shit half the time and he's crap whenever we've played him.
He's not good enough for us, it sounds really arrogant. We've know way of knowing if Cabaye could make the step up or not, but it's worth a try, especially considering some of the dead weight we've got in the squad.
I like Cabaye, and would be more than happy to have him here. He had a poor last season, but he'd be better player than Cleverley or Fellaini, for me. People have short memories, it seems. The season before last I thought he was fantastic.
It's worth a try buying two players for 40m+ who might strengthen our midfield a bit? Or should be perhaps aim a little higher than that?
Any examples? I'm not trying to be a dick, just wondering.
Well considering we spent £27 million on Fellaini, clubs can easily look to squeeze extortionate fees out of us for other midfielders.
Do you mean if I have any preference? I'm not sure my preference really fits with Moyes as I don't agree with him on how he uses some of the players and that Özil wasn't needed here because we have Kagawa and Rooney.
I'm sure there are plenty of players in the Bundesliga that are quite good. Roberto Firminio? We should try and buy Gündogan. Dortmund will lose Lewandowski. They've lost Kagawa and Sahin before. They're well capable of selling more players. Haven't exactly been pricey either. Next summer he'll have a year left on his contract I believe. Look no further than him.
I'd be all for us going in for him in January. We may be looking at a higher class of midfielder following bids for Fabregas in the Summer along with constant talk of Thiago, but he is still better than all our other midfield options bar Carrick and would offer a very good alternative.
And taking his footballing ability out of the equation, he is someone who would make a seamlessly, easy transition into our midfield in my opinion. His metronomic passing, range of passing and accuracy is something that correlates to our wingplay style of play down the years - although it's not very good at the moment.
And he is also a very well-rounded, defensively accomplished player, which probably goes a bit unnoticed. He has all the traits, which are synonymous with a two-man midfield - defensively and offensively. He might not possess an abundance of flair, but would still offer more creativity and goals from midfield.
I was against the signing of Fellaini and I didn't expect much following his signature. But I do think Cabaye could be a very good signing for us at a reasonable price.
And taking his footballing ability out of the equation, he is someone who would make a seamlessly, easy transition into our midfield in my opinion. His metronomic passing, range of passing and accuracy is something that correlates to our wingplay style of play down the years - although it's not very good at the moment.
And he is also a very well-rounded, defensively accomplished player, which probably goes a bit unnoticed. He has all the traits, which are synonymous with a two-man midfield - defensively and offensively. He might not possess an abundance of flair, but would still offer more creativity and goals from midfield.
I was against the signing of Fellaini and I didn't expect much following his signature. But I do think Cabaye could be a very good signing for us at a reasonable price.
Kagawa came from the Bundesliga, and I know he's had injuries, but he hasn't slotted into the side like we all hoped he would. That's if we buy anyone, by the way.
Great, he scored against us. He's often dominated in the midfield when he plays against us. I've seen Newcastle a lot on tv also and he's often dominated by other midfields too.
I'm not even going to bother to argue about this guy anyway because we won't sign him.
Far better players than Cabaye have been dominated in midfield against United - that is not a valid criticism.
Like perhaps, today.
Buy him IMO.
I think he'd do really well here, the sort of creative deep lying player we've been short of. If we can get him for 15m i'm all for it.
I watch most Newcastle games, and he's not "often dominated" at all. He's usually their best player, not his fault that they've been mostly terrible in the last year.
And not being able to single-handedly win games for Newcastle shouldn't make a difference.
And not being able to single-handedly win games for Newcastle shouldn't make a difference.
Thank you for telling me how I feel about how he has slotted into the side.
Kagawa is fine. Despite not playing regularly enough last season and despite often playing on the left in games like today where he only has the forward option of passing to RvP or Rooney because our two midfielders don't move at all. Attacking movement is a big problem in our team imo.
I'm right though.
If we bought Cabaye we'd be looking for another midfielder within a season or two and complaining about our midfield still. He's no better than what we have and would be a completely pointless signing. We need someone brilliant or potentially brilliant. Cabaye is neither.
About Cabaye or Kagawa?
He's better than all of our CMs apart from Carrick.
Kagawa. Hasn't really had the big impact we needed.
So was Fellaini. We need a lot more than just Cabaye to sort out our problem. Would be a hassle if we bought him and another midfielder. I'm not against him either, just think we should do more.
That I agree with.
Let's see which big team snaps him up. My guess is none of them will.
Pretty much.
Can't say Carrick will go on as long as Giggs or Scholes either so in that sense another senior player with experience will help.
But in all honesty its just a shame we got Fellaini instead of Kebab. I hope Fellaini comes good because to be fair he plays well in midfield for Belgium but he looks completely lost so far.
I think Cabaye would've been more like the way Arteta settled into Arsenal. He's clearly a tidy player who could do well without being exceptional every week.
Do not want. Herrera instead please.
Ander Herrera 13/14 - 9 games, 0 goals, 0 assists
The same Herrera who isn't getting a game for Bilbao? (And don't say it is because he tried to leave - he just hasn't played well). I wouldn't want Cabaye for sure, but would like to know why you want Herrera
His Spanish and not looking into it much he's probably two years younger. Thats how much people on here think. But in all honesty Cabaye is a better player.
Thought i'd look at the 3 mentioned the most on the last page.
What it shows is that Cabaye is much more of an AM. However, whats impressive imo is his Tackle/Interceptions. He's got some steel to his game.
What it shows is that Cabaye is much more of an AM. However, whats impressive imo is his Tackle/Interceptions. He's got some steel to his game.
Well said. We had all this "better than what we've already got" bullsh!t with Fellaini. Some people are so obsessed with signing for the sake of it.
For me it's either top quality or stick with what we've got.
Thought i'd look at the 3 mentioned the most on the last page.
What it shows is that Cabaye is much more of an AM. However, whats impressive imo is his Tackle/Interceptions. He's got some steel to his game.
Yep and if you go back and look at the same stats from previous seasons he did even more defensive work. I think he didnt do much when he first came back into the side this season as he was getting match fit and that skews his defensive work down a bit.
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