Yoann Gourcuff

They had no faith in him that was sure to be seen. I remember Evra blanking him in the middle of the park and going for the harder pass out wide. He would have never done that with Scholes. I bit dissapointing from the French players to be fair.

Very true.Sometimes I wish it's all rumor and shit but tbh like you just said I think there some truth innit
 
Now that one mentions it nobody seemed to pass it to Gourcuff! Me and a friend were watching the game together and quite a few times we were yelling out at the players not passing when he was in a better position.. At the time we put it down to Anelka/Govou's greediness but I guess not..
 
The French squad has always been a mess since Domenech.... I was still amazed that he actually took them to the Finals four years ago...

Gourcuff isn't bad as kourux points out, actually... Evra even looked shit that night and we know he is the best LB in the world.

France as a team is just terrible, doesn't help Gourcuff look any good in anyway, also the team work there was just dismal... Gourcuff of course was the play maker... but I've never seen a team rely on Diaby making all the runs and just trying to forget Gourcuff.

Also, as they didn't start off with Henry.... Govou was just shite and shouldn't be anywhere near the French national side...

It's time for a big change there and with Blanc being there next manager, its probably better signs...

The better they get rid of Domenech... the better this squad will be.

I don't even care if Gourcuff doesn't shine, it'll just make his price tag decrease which could only be better news if we were actually interested in him.

He just needs faith which by far you can see he isn't getting it in this crap French side
 
Gourcuff isn't bad as kourux points out, actually... Evra even looked shit that night and we know he is the best LB in the world.

You're right.I've been kind to him tbh, a lot of people are calling for him to be dropped.His performance levels have significantly dropped for both club and country.Evra is always shit for France, it was a typical performance from him.
 
Zinedine Zidane has criticised France coach Raymond Domenech and said "there is no teamwork" among the players in Les Blues' World Cup squad.

After France disappointed in their opening game of the World Cup, a 0-0 draw with Uruguay, former France captain Zidane was despondent.

He told French television's Canal Plus that Domenech "is not a coach".

And Zidane added that the players "must take responsibility for themselves" and "must put their ego to one side".

Zidane scored twice in the final when France won the World Cup in 1998. He also helped France win the European Championship in 2000 and inspired France to the World Cup final in 2006 before being sent off in the defeat by Italy.

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France looked like a group of strangers still working their way through some painful introductions

France will have the opportunity to make amends for their uninspiring start when they take on Mexico in their second Group A match in Polokwane on Thursday.

Domenech is in an unusual position with the France Football Federation having announced prior to the tournament that he will be replaced as manager by Zidane's World Cup winning team-mate Laurent Blanc after this summer's World Cup.

Current boss Domenech has long bore the brunt of fans' frustrations following a disappointing Euro 2008 campaign where they picked up only one point from three games.

BBC Sport - Football - World Cup 2010: Zidane questions France teamwork

Hmmm
 
Bordeaux have insisted they do not have to sell key playmaker Yoann Gourcuff this summer.

The 23-year-old's future has been the subject of intense speculation since the end of last season, with Bordeaux failing to clinch European qualification for the new campaign.

The likes of Lyon and Arsenal have been linked with Gourcuff, who is currently on international duty with France at the World Cup.

An offer in the region of 25million euros (£20.9m) could be difficult for Bordeaux to resist but majority shareholder Nicolas de Tavernost believes there is a chance he could stay.

"Contrary to what I have heard, we have the means to keep him at the club next season," De Tavernost told L'Equipe.

"He can stay with us. There is no reason for him to leave.

"Anyway, we will see how he feels after the World Cup."
and
Former France captain Zinedine Zidane has criticised coach Raymond Domenech after the 2-0 defeat by Mexico which left Les Bleus on the brink of World Cup elimination.

Zidane, a member of France's 1998 World Cup-winning team, believes Domenech got his selection wrong by demoting Yoann Gourcuff to the bench, depriving the side of a creative spark.

"The coach made the decision but I don't agree with it," Zidane told Mexican television station Televisa. "I am disappointed because France did not have a single shot on goal and that should be the least to be expected. Mexico were superior to France, especially physically."
When Blanc takes over expect a very different Gourcuff.
 
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When Blanc takes over expect a very different Gourcuff.

Like the one was very poor this season.I don't believe Blanc being the coach will automatically transform Gourcuff into a leader and performer.
He was far from that for Bordeaux but at least it can't get worse
 
Like the one was very poor this season.I don't believe Blanc being the coach will automatically transform Gourcuff into a leader and performer.
He was far from that for Bordeaux but at least it can't get worse
:lol:
 
Now that one mentions it nobody seemed to pass it to Gourcuff! Me and a friend were watching the game together and quite a few times we were yelling out at the players not passing when he was in a better position.. At the time we put it down to Anelka/Govou's greediness but I guess not..

They can't do that now. :smirk:
 
Like the one was very poor this season.I don't believe Blanc being the coach will automatically transform Gourcuff into a leader and performer.
He was far from that for Bordeaux but at least it can't get worse

Never said Gourcuff would become a leader but Blanc will get a lot more out of him than this lot. Also The ONE had a great half season.
 
Doing the rounds this morning
Wenger urged to push through attacking reunion
New Arsenal striker Marouane Chamakh has hinted that former Bordeaux teammate Yoann Gourcuff would be a superb acquisition for the Gunners as speculation continues to circle that the French international could be a readymade replacement for Cesc Fabregas should the
Spaniard depart for Barcelona in the future.

Chamakh signed for Arsenal on a free at the start of the summer and will join up with his new teammates for pre-season training in the next two weeks. The Moroccan international, who spent eight years at Bordeaux, was a prominent figure in Laurent Blanc’s title winning side of the 2008/09 and alongside Gourcuff helped spearhead a run to the quarter-finals of last season’s Champions League.

The duo were regularly hailed as the most effective attacking combination in Ligue 1 and with Chamakh now ready to test himself in England with Arsenal it appears Gourcuff could also be tempted by life in the Premier League.

Speaking about the prospect of linking up with his old friend, Chamakh told The Sun:

"It would be terrific if Gourcuff joined Arsenal.”

At only 23-years-old, Gourcuff has already experienced the pressures of making a big money move. Having established himself as an exciting teenage prospect at Rennes, the playmaker moved to AC Milan and spent three seasons at the San Siro. Struggling to usurp Kaka for a lead role in Carlo Ancelotti’s side the Frenchman returned to his homeland on loan in 2008 and has since become a mainstay of Raymond Domenech’s Les Bleus. Part of France’s disgraced World Cup squad Gourcuff was sent off for a first half elbow against South Africa.
Incredible how one whole article is made from a single sentence.
Best of these I saw today was Ferguson blasts Evra for leading france revolt where they have no quotes of him doing that.
 
Wengers just ruled himself out of the Gourcuff chase.
 
Definately has the right mentaility for Arsenal.
 
Arsenal needs defenders and a goalkeeper, not more midfielders...especially if Fabregas doesn't go this summer.
 
After all the hype he was appauling at the world cup. He seemed afraid of the ball like it had some evil curse on it.
 
:lol: so whats the deal then? Has everybody decided he's crap after the World Cup? He was on the top of everybody's muppet list, but now that space is reserved for Ozil...

Is there anybody that would rather have this guy than Ozil?
 
One world cup doesn't make you a bad player, no one in that French side covered themselves in any glory, even Evra looked shite.

I would still have Gourcuff over Ozil.
 
I'd still take him. His stock is down after the world cup, but he is still a quality player. I think we'd get a better deal for Gourcuff than Ozil, and I don't think there's a huge difference in quality between the two.
 
One world cup doesn't make you a bad player, no one in that French side covered themselves in any glory, even Evra looked shite.

I would still have Gourcuff over Ozil.

Without a doubt, of course I agree with you, but I havent even seen Gourcuff's name mentioned for ages, yet before the World Cup, Gourcuff was the name on everybody's lips here on the caf.
 
Without a doubt, of course I agree with you, but I havent even seen Gourcuff's name mentioned for ages, yet before the World Cup, Gourcuff was the name on everybody's lips here on the caf.

That's more to do with the short attention spans of the transfer forum and general football fan reactionary behaviour.

They are both great players and I would be happy to see either of them here.
 
He'd give us something we're missing that Ozil wouldn't - set pieces. Still, you'd have to worry when he's been cited to have 'attitude problems' at the only big club he's been at and again there's so much in his game that people complain about I've never understood the attraction to him.
 
I wouldn't endorse a move for this guy. He's not good enough for this club at this moment in time.
 
Maybe one bad WC doesn't make a bad player but, could argue that he didn't show the mental strength to fight through adverse times. At United he'd be under a lot of scrutiny and if his game suffers because of off the field things - he very well may not make it at United.

Plus if you consider that a lot of what has been said about Evra's comments causing a lot of the issues - he might not be too happy teamed up with him.

For us it might be better to see if he bounces back from the WC and a so-so season last year (he had an okay season). It might drive up his price but, if he can't bounce back then we'll save a penny. If he can then he might be worth the extra in that he shows mental fortitude to over come things.
 
Maybe one bad WC doesn't make a bad player but, could argue that he didn't show the mental strength to fight through adverse times. At United he'd be under a lot of scrutiny and if his game suffers because of off the field things - he very well may not make it at United.

Plus if you consider that a lot of what has been said about Evra's comments causing a lot of the issues - he might not be too happy teamed up with him.

For us it might be better to see if he bounces back from the WC and a so-so season last year (he had an okay season). It might drive up his price but, if he can't bounce back then we'll save a penny. If he can then he might be worth the extra in that he shows mental fortitude to over come things.

Our teams not the strongest its been in quite a while, can you imagine in the upcoming season.. which I think we will see periods of poor performance, someone like Gourcuff.. raising his game and driving us to wins.

From what I've seen I think not, we need to acquire true quality and this means proper characters as well.. he strikes me as an insecure man and one who'd crumble under intense pressure.
 
I wouldn't endorse a move for this guy. He's not good enough for this club at this moment in time.

No way, there are certainly a few midfileders who he would be ahead of in the depth chart and in all honesty once he settled or if I should say he would be starting week in and week out.
 
What a turnaround theres been on this guy. Before the World Cup he was the stuff of dreams for the posters here. After a poor showing with a shit team, he's been shunned.

Very talented player, who I believe could do well here.

(I'd still rather have Schweinsteiger.)
 
Shimo said:
Maybe one bad WC doesn't make a bad player but, could argue that he didn't show the mental strength to fight through adverse times. At United he'd be under a lot of scrutiny and if his game suffers because of off the field things

You could argue the same for Rooney who failed to control a football
 
His agent has said there have been no offers for him which is unsurprising on his world cup form. However I dont know too much about him when it comes to club form.

But I felt it was pretty funny news considering all the talk about him and his release clause right before the world cup.

Sounds like his stock is really low at this point and I've a sneaky feeling Wenger will strike if he loses Fabregas and will get him at a time when Arsenal would be among the better offers.
 
His agent has said there have been no offers for him which is unsurprising on his world cup form. However I dont know too much about him when it comes to club form.

But I felt it was pretty funny news considering all the talk about him and his release clause right before the world cup.

Sounds like his stock is really low at this point and I've a sneaky feeling Wenger will strike if he loses Fabregas and will get him at a time when Arsenal would be among the better offers.

The world cup brought out the worst in a fair few top players. Is it just me, or does anyone else think now is the time to take advantage of low interest in one of these players, and get a bargain?
 
The world cup brought out the worst in a fair few top players. Is it just me, or does anyone else think now is the time to take advantage of low interest in one of these players, and get a bargain?

It probably is. But as I said before, I dont know enough about his club form to
suggest that this is the right guy to go for.

I think I read somewhere that statistically Rooney was the worst player at the world cup. So yeah lets not dismiss players soley on that one tournament.
 
The world cup brought out the worst in a fair few top players. Is it just me, or does anyone else think now is the time to take advantage of low interest in one of these players, and get a bargain?

I completely agree his could be the value that we so dearly seek now