I blame the parents and the laws who let a young girl in a shooting range.
Yet another mass shooting and at a church, again
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The words outrageously moronic come to mind. What the feck were they thinking or weren't thinking more like.
Don't bring religion into it. People should be able to go about their lives, if that means go to church, go to a casino, cinema whatever safely. Not worry that some nutjob has the right to have a gun and if he is pissed off with something can take it out on his fellow human beings.
There has to be stricter gun laws. All it means at the moment is more people will go out to buy guns. They will wipe each other out eventually.
Holy crap that's dumb
I don't know what's worse, the ones who commit the act in the first place that are most likely fecked in the head and can at least put it down to that, or those who consider themselves perfectly sane of mind but whom innocent dead children isn't enough for them to think about reigning it in a bit.
Oh dont worry the ones who can actually do something about it aka the Republican senators wont do anything except "offer their prayers". Like that is going to make a difference. And they sleep soundly at night as long as their pockets are being filled by the NRA.
It's so ingrained in their culture. I guess it's just very difficult to understand for us here.
The meaning of my post was more literal than metaphoric. I was talking about the interval of decent reticence in public controversy practiced in all civilized societies from the Congo rainforest to the Lapland tundra as a mark of respect for the dead and the grief of the bereaved.
It doesn't have to be long, but it should be longer than a few hours.
Exactly, nothing could possibly go wrong.
Dumb argument used mostly by people who don't want to think about the fact that their political oppinions and support for certain groups is costing countless lifes. Better keep quiet and hope everyone has forgotten it in a few days eh?
Good advice. Where would I be if I lost the respect of liberals on the Cafe?
Nothing's really going to change after this. Feckin US politicians; they're either greedy, spineless, crazy - or all 3.
I find myself caring less and less about the victims - and that's sad in itself.
I find myself caring less and less about the victims - and that's sad in itself.
Thats just the dumb argument Republican senators make. Oh lets not talk it about now. Lets all "grieve" first. Then we dont talk about it cause nothing happens for a week. Then another shooting occurs and again now is not the right time to talk about it. Give it another week. Another shooting. Rinse and repeat.
Why don't people willingly give up their guns and stop buying new ones? Obviously, if no one wants to buy them, the gun lobby wont have money to buy off politicians.
If people wont do anything, how can they expect politicians to change.
Oh you didnt hear? They are readying themselves to go up against the government if a mutiny happens. Plus "Freedom".
Because a large proportion of gun owners, like having guns and don't think guns are the problem @RedDevil@84 ?
They are wrong of course, but if they hold these views then why would they do what you said above? It'd be like abolishing all speed limits and then after a spate of serious crashes, just hoping people just drive at 70mph off their own backs rather than just changing the fecking law back.
Whereas leaving it a full 24 hours to crowbar in your own agenda after a tragedy that directly affected friends/family of redcafe members is just fine, right?
I've never read this statistic before so I'm just curious: what percentage/how many shooters in these kind of incidents are official members of the NRA?
For the life of me, I can't understand the notion that we should wait some time before politicizing an event such as this. It happens all the time and surely the best way to respect those poor souls that were murdered is to actually do something. In a week this will all be forgotten. And I'm not talking about stricter gun laws. Even if by some miracle they passed some sort of law that made it a little more difficult to buy firearms, there would still be millions of high-powered assault rifles out there. Unless the US bans all weapons apart from hunting rifles this will continue to happen. Oh, and I know this is a little out of topic, but it kind of shows why corporations shouldn't be allowed to make political contributions. A politician who receives millions of dollars from the NRA will never vote against them. Even if it's the right thing to do.
I've said it before, but "the worlds leading country" my arse
I've said it before, but "the worlds leading country" my arse
I don't know or care what Republican senators say. It's a matter of common decency not to immediately exploit human carnage for political purposes.
Unless it's jihadists doing the killing, obviously. See above...
Are you missing the point on purpose or are you so naive that you just dont see it? SMH.
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I was going to put an mocking post up about arming the congregation.
Wow
There's some impressive double standards.
Always has been. Its the same everywhere with the far right, just watch Fox News. Took them minutes to condemn the Green Card lottery after the New York attack, yet again they are still going on about the lack of respect for the victims of Texas at this minute.
They are saying he had an argument with his mother-in-law and then when out and shot these people. Bonkers.
For some reason that link doesnt work for me. What is that conversation about?Wow
There's some impressive double standards.
Is it really "exploiting human carnage" to say, after an event like this, that people should do something about guns in the US?
But Trump didn't have an issue in using the New York attack for political purposes. Straight out with a comment saying that he needed to increase the extreme vetting.
Raging on abput the culture war of Islam against the west in the aftermath of Manchester. Less than 24 hours after it happened actually.
His mother-in-law had a strong connection with that church, so there's the motive - revenge on her and the religion he grew to despise.
That's bad.
Not sure where you're getting that religion angle from, unless I missed something? I think it's safe to say he wasn't a particularly devout member of that particular Church, but it's impossible for us to speculate further on that that right now. Although the mother-in-law angle is strong.
No
So the only ones left are the non-gun owners who could call for a change. My point is we hardly see anyone call for a change of things. And people vote for the same politicians who are buddies with the gun companies.. So maybe people do not actually care, except for those 2-3 days after the shooting where they need
They have, time and time again.
I'm not a spokesman for Donald Trump.
There was a time in the not so distant past (2016) when the Cafe enforced an informal curfew on politicisation of such tragedies at least until the next day. That restraint, like so many others, has fallen by the wayside.
There was? I must have missed that the last 11 years.
Is this the start of a poem?
Here. Was a teacher aid at a bible school four years ago and liked atheist pages on facebook. The religion angle is a bit of a stretch but the revenge on mother-in-law bit looks likely.