izec
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He is a green horn, a project no top club has time for. It would be like buying him from Palmeiras. He is not a squad CB for 10m, for 45m you expect much more, not another Rojo or Lindelöf
Wait til I roll out classics like “Yerry Christmas” or “Yerry! Yerry!” When there’s a brawltumbleweeds for that one mate
No we didn't. He wasn't an 89m player then and he's not today.
No he's not. You perform for your club and you're worth the price tag.
He may well transcend his national form to club form this season and I hope he does. But until he does so I don't see the value yet.
This is surely bullshit.
Barcelona sign him for £9 million eight months ago, he plays a handful of games and is dreadful. Then he comes out to the press and states that he can’t handle the pressure of playing for Barcelona.
If the board sign off a £40 million purchase of this guy then they should all be fecking sacked.
Realistically, with the players form etc, nobody should be paying more than £20 million for him.
This is surely bullshit.
Barcelona sign him for £9 million eight months ago, he plays a handful of games and is dreadful. Then he comes out to the press and states that he can’t handle the pressure of playing for Barcelona.
If the board sign off a £40 million purchase of this guy then they should all be fecking sacked.
Realistically, with the players form etc, nobody should be paying more than £20 million for him.
After a couple of good games in the WC his fee skyrockets. If he was that good Barca would not be selling him after just one season.
We've currently have 5 CBs, all of which are squad players at best. Smalling is the most consistent of the lot. Jones and Rojo are rash and injury prone. Lindelof is works in progress. Bailly is the best defender of the lot but he's so injury prone. Tuanzebe is very promising but he need regular football so I guess he'll be loaned for a year or two.
I haven't followed Mina and Toby to come up with a definitive opinion about them, however from what I've seen they are two different type of players. Mina is the typical old fashioned CB. He's fantastic in air, he's decent defensive wise but he can be uncomfortable with the ball if put under pressure. Toby on the other hand is very experienced, he's comfortable with the ball and he's got decent pace. So they are two different players
So I won't be surprised if Mou has his way he'll get them both. Which might explains why United are pushing to get rid of various members of our defence from Blind (sold) to Darmian right to Rojo.
We've currently have 5 CBs, all of which are squad players at best. Smalling is the most consistent of the lot. Jones and Rojo are rash and injury prone. Lindelof is works in progress. Bailly is the best defender of the lot but he's so injury prone. Tuanzebe is very promising but he need regular football so I guess he'll be loaned for a year or two.
I haven't followed Mina and Toby to come up with a definitive opinion about them, however from what I've seen they are two different type of players. Mina is the typical old fashioned CB. He's fantastic in air, he's decent defensive wise but he can be uncomfortable with the ball if put under pressure. Toby on the other hand is very experienced, he's comfortable with the ball and he's got decent pace. So they are two different players
So I won't be surprised if Mou has his way he'll get them both. Which might explains why United are pushing to get rid of various members of our defence from Blind (sold) to Darmian right to Rojo.
We've currently have 5 CBs, all of which are squad players at best. Smalling is the most consistent of the lot. Jones and Rojo are rash and injury prone. Lindelof is works in progress. Bailly is the best defender of the lot but he's so injury prone. Tuanzebe is very promising but he need regular football so I guess he'll be loaned for a year or two.
I haven't followed Mina and Toby to come up with a definitive opinion about them, however from what I've seen they are two different type of players. Mina is the typical old fashioned CB. He's fantastic in air, he's decent defensive wise but he can be uncomfortable with the ball if put under pressure. Toby on the other hand is very experienced, he's comfortable with the ball and he's got decent pace. So they are two different players
So I won't be surprised if Mou has his way he'll get them both. Which might explains why United are pushing to get rid of various members of our defence from Blind (sold) to Darmian right to Rojo.
We can’t have six center halves in our squad. If we signed both Mina and Alderweireld we would need to sell at least one of Smalling, Jones, Bailly and Lindelof. There isn’t enough time to do this though because we can only sell Smalling and Jones within England, I doubt we would be willing to sell Bailly who has actually been all right and Lindelof only joined a year ago.
We will sign one and it’ll IMO be Alderweireld, signed for a bit too much but I don’t mind since he would instantly become the leader of defence.
We also have Fosu Mensah who can play as a CB or FB, but Mourinho don't seem to want him. He should let him and Tuanzebe go if he is not going to try them.
We can’t have six center halves in our squad. If we signed both Mina and Alderweireld we would need to sell at least one of Smalling, Jones, Bailly and Lindelof. There isn’t enough time to do this though because we can only sell Smalling and Jones within England, I doubt we would be willing to sell Bailly who has actually been all right and Lindelof only joined a year ago.
We will sign one and it’ll IMO be Alderweireld, signed for a bit too much but I don’t mind since he would instantly become the leader of defence.
I wouldn't be that sure about that. The squad is screaming for new fbs yet Mou seem relenting on that. In my opinion Shaw's chance is gone. He's on his last year of his contract, Mou had argued with him countless times and according to reports he turned Everton down. Meanwhile both Valencia and Young are in 33yrs+, which lead us to Dalot, Mitchell and TFM. If I was a United kid playing as a fullback then I'll fancy my chances.
SAF used to hype his kids in a bid to inspire confidence in them. Old school continental managers tend to have the opposite approach. They think that bashing kids is the best way to keep them in line and focused on their development.
Agreed.
Although I wouldn't be against selling both Smalling and Jones. Both are spent at United and wouldn't rely on them staying fit.
I wouldn’t mind selling either of them too. I think we could find a buyer for Smalling quite easily, his injury record isn’t that terrible and he has been all right in the league. I think we would find it tough to quickly find someone to take Jones, he’s almost always injured and has not developed the way we would have expected him too.
I want to keep Bailly and Lindelof for sure. I really hope Lindelof can step into a more important role this season, he has the potential to become very good.
Your Right, But I can see him loaning out both Tuanzebe and Fosu again this season. Then we will have injuries to most of our backline again, and have to play someone out of position. At least 1 of these should be kept as a squad member, maybe even both.
Wait til I roll out classics like “Yerry Christmas” or “Yerry! Yerry!” When there’s a brawl
if he was that good, he'd be mentally strong enough to try and win a spot in one of the worlds top teams. Yet he simply wants to bolt out the door for an easy ride.
Like I've said before in this thread; if he not good enough for this forum then he's good enough for me.
Wait til I roll out classics like “Yerry Christmas” or “Yerry! Yerry!” When there’s a brawl
We've currently have 5 CBs, all of which are squad players at best. Smalling is the most consistent of the lot. Jones and Rojo are rash and injury prone. Lindelof is works in progress. Bailly is the best defender of the lot but he's so injury prone. Tuanzebe is very promising but he need regular football so I guess he'll be loaned for a year or two.
I haven't followed Mina and Toby to come up with a definitive opinion about them, however from what I've seen they are two different type of players. Mina is the typical old fashioned CB. He's fantastic in air, he's decent defensive wise but he can be uncomfortable with the ball if put under pressure. Toby on the other hand is very experienced, he's comfortable with the ball and he's got decent pace. So they are two different players
So I won't be surprised if Mou has his way he'll get them both. Which might explains why United are pushing to get rid of various members of our defence from Blind (sold) to Darmian right to Rojo.
Your right I now think Alderwiereld is a better fit even if he's dearer.Getting the ball outside of our box will be a real problem with those two as CBs. We need a ball playing CB considering that all our CBs bar Lindeloff aren't comfortable at passing the ball.