Yann M’Vila

Don't know about Gunadagon so can't comment on him.

Honestly don't think Vidal, Montolivio, Boateng or Sandro are better than what we already have.

I'd have happily had United go for Dembele but again he is similar type of player to Anderson.

Pirlo would have been pointless as he is the same type of player and age as Scholes and Hamsik would have cost big money.

With the greatest respect to those players I don't think any of them bar Pirlo(whose on his way out) and possibly Hamsik are top class.

Vidal is a fantastic player and in terms of attacking central midfielders, he clearly would have added to our team. Himself and Pirlo (who by the way is only 33 and proved during the summer that he is still sensational) are a serious article for Juve.

Buying for the sake of buying...I wouldn't have batted too many lids on Montolivio, Boateng or Sandro. All be it, Sandro is a very good player with pl time.

Dembele is fantastic and I am still shocked we didn't go for him. Carries the ball and retains possession like a boss! He would have been an immaculate signing. Dembele and Carrick in the middle...yes please
 
Don't know about Gunadagon so can't comment on him.

Honestly don't think Vidal, Montolivio, Boateng or Sandro are better than what we already have.

I'd have happily had United go for Dembele but again he is similar type of player to Anderson.

Pirlo would have been pointless as he is the same type of player and age as Scholes and Hamsik would have cost big money.

With the greatest respect to those players I don't think any of them bar Pirlo(whose on his way out) and possibly Hamsik are top class.

Vidal is an awesome talent, him, vidal and marchiso are probably the strongest midfield outside of barca right now.

Pirlo was 31 when juventus signed him and would have been a brilliant short term replacement for scholes. Could easily have got 4/5 years out of him and plays at a level above carrick as well.

Boateng,dembele,sandro and montolivo would have given us an extra body in CM who we can expect to consistently perform to a high level compared to our current options. Right now we only have 3 players who I feel confident with and one of them is extremely injury prone. We need an extra player who can perform just to make up the numbers as for a top club that is poor.

Sandro has been one of the best DMs in the league this season so he could easily have improved us. Either partnered with carrick to have a solid base or his replacement in some matches.

Boateng could play alongside carrick and is an upgrade on cleverley(currently) imo.
 
Rennes have confirmed today that he has put in a transfer request.
 
I think we should go for him. We could really get him on the cheap given his situation and behavioural issues, plus he's an almost ideal player for us. If Fergie can't straighten him out then we could sell him on for maybe only a few million pounds loss, and if he can straighten him out we've got another class player on our books.
 
I think we should go for him. We could really get him on the cheap given his situation and behavioural issues, plus he's an almost ideal player for us. If Fergie can't straighten him out then we could sell him on for maybe only a few million pounds loss, and if he can straighten him out we've got another class player on our books.

Disloyal - putting himself before the team - sounds exactly like the kind of player Ferguson would want....not
 
I think we should go for him. We could really get him on the cheap given his situation and behavioural issues, plus he's an almost ideal player for us. If Fergie can't straighten him out then we could sell him on for maybe only a few million pounds loss, and if he can straighten him out we've got another class player on our books.

No. We don't play with that type of DM.
 
I think there's probably more to him than just a pure DM, think he could be a good box to box if developed like that. Athletically, he's a beast, he's got good passing range and doesn't shy away from a tackle. I think he could do well in the Premier League (and I'd love to see how he could do at Utd), and Ferguson or Wenger would be perfect managers for him, I believe. As for his behavioural issues, I developed my point of view on the previous page, he's at fault for a big part of it, but the context wasn't easy for him and moving abroad could reignite his still young career.
 
I'd rather say M'Vila would be a Fletcher/Hargreaves type though he's still only really young and physically wise he looks to be a bit stronger too.

I wouldn't mind an M'Vila/Strootman, though rumors about him beint a cnut in the dressing room doesn't sound that pleasant ( Not like SAF couldn't handle that )
 
I think there's probably more to him than just a pure DM, think he could be a good box to box if developed like that. Athletically, he's a beast, he's got good passing range and doesn't shy away from a tackle. I think he could do well in the Premier League (and I'd love to see how he could do at Utd), and Ferguson or Wenger would be perfect managers for him, I believe. As for his behavioural issues, I developed my point of view on the previous page, he's at fault for a big part of it, but the context wasn't easy for him and moving abroad could reignite his still young career.

The french press and the FFF absolutely killed him, he didn't deserve that. Okay, he went to a nightclub 3 days before an important game, but I bet footballers have done far worse when there was no facebook/twitter.

And the transfer request is understandable because he wants out from the country.
 
I agree with your first sentence, as I explained on the previous page. He was made a scapegoat, or a spacegoat, who knows, in a scandalous way.

As for the transfer requests, where does this come from? (source?) Cause I asked some Rennes followers on a French forum I'm on, and they haven't heard anything about an official transfer request being handed in.
 
How much is his club letting him go for? Surely can't be anything more than 8-10m since he had put in a transfer request?
 
Has always been very highly rated, surely good clubs would be in for him?

His attitude might be a slight stumbling block? From what I know of him, he seems to have upset a lot of people, and even if he was the 'spacegoat' as pointed out above for some, there is no smoke without fire, I'm pretty sure Wenger could have actually have signed him by now but wasn't so keen when it came round to it, I'm not sure how much of this is factual as I can't promise sources etc but I'm pretty sure that was the general view... I stand to be corrected though :)
 
Again, I pointed out that he had his faults, but I'm not going to quote myself with each post.

And according to Rennes fans, to only clubs to have really shown interest in him so far are QPR and Zenith St Petersburg, and he doesn't fancy any of those.
 
His attitude might be a slight stumbling block? From what I know of him, he seems to have upset a lot of people, and even if he was the 'spacegoat' as pointed out above for some, there is no smoke without fire, I'm pretty sure Wenger could have actually have signed him by now but wasn't so keen when it came round to it, I'm not sure how much of this is factual as I can't promise sources etc but I'm pretty sure that was the general view... I stand to be corrected though :)

Attitude can be a problem but unless its really bad, I'd like to think a manager would take a bet on him if he's cheap.
 
His disciplinary problems did seem to come from that classic situation of a player being massively hyped, getting on the radar of all the very top clubs, and then no move materialising. Suddenly playing for his current club feels very unsatisfactory, and a breakdown in relationships and discipline inevitably follows.

Which is not to say that a less difficult player wouldn't just have put his nose to the grindstone and got on with it, but the indiscipline does seem situational rather than a result of a really bad character.

And the out of proportion punishments make it look worse, too - that massive ban for going out the night before a match seems a bit much.
 
Seems to be heading to QPR according to L'equipe.
 
Yeah it looks like it for a little over £8m but the thing he was a release clause in his contract if QPR get relegated.
 
So Harry has confirmed that he's signing for QPR. Just a year ago he was being linked with Us and Arsenal

Neither Anderson or Cleverley are anywhere near good enough to start as a duo for title contenders. At least, not right not they're not.

Just found this post from Al. Heh.
 
Very odd.

Do QPR have serious cash? Like Chelsea/City type cash? Seems players are buying into the potential of their "project".
 
The project seems to be "we'll pay you more than anyone else can offer". You would think they'd put a relegation wage clause in there but I doubt it.
 
The project seems to be "we'll pay you more than anyone else can offer". You would think they'd put a relegation wage clause in there but I doubt it.

I understand it when it comes to players like Granero who have had a chance at a top club but M'Villa is supposed to be one of the more hyped young players. It seems like a very strange move from his point of view. Maybe he sees this as a platform to impress the bigger PL clubs.
 
His stock has seriously fallen. If 'Arry can get him back playing to his, then this could be a really good signing.

Think QPR now kind of need to look for some centre backs.
 
Tony Fernandes's personal wealth is rated at only $400m by Forbes. I am skeptical that he can afford all these players.

edit: The Mittal family still have a 34% share.

I hope that they get relegated.
 
The project is having Harry have a go at big buys and high wage players, then sign a load more of them
 
The Mittal family own a 36% stake in the club and are worth over £10billion. Think they are ok.

Wouldn't that depend on if they want to put their personal wealth into a failing business?
 
Wouldn't that depend on if they want to put their personal wealth into a failing business?

They own a fair ouel stake, I would imagine that they are already putting money in. They obviously see it as a long term project.
 
I understand it when it comes to players like Granero who have had a chance at a top club but M'Villa is supposed to be one of the more hyped young players. It seems like a very strange move from his point of view. Maybe he sees this as a platform to impress the bigger PL clubs.

I think it's also cause he's stuck in a bad spiral in France and just wants to move out of the country. He really needs a fresh start, and apparently the only clubs interested were Zenith and QPR. Probably fancies QPR more as it's a small club where he'll probably get playing time and will allow him to get back on the radar of bigger clubs if he does well. Not a terrible move, he's still young, if he can kick on from here, I could see him next season or the one after playing for a better team.

Good move also if he got a release clause if case of relegation as reported above.
 
They own a fair ouel stake, I would imagine that they are already putting money in. They obviously see it as a long term project.

As the minority shareholder I doubt that they would want to be propping the club up financially. Their investment was relatively minimal pre Fernandes too. I am still skeptical as to the solidity of the fiscal operation at QPR.
 
How do we think QPR will do IF they sign both M'Vila and Remy ?

I can see them staying up to be fair, but on the other hand IF they don't, I doubt QPR would have included drop clauses' and they will face some real money issues.. will be a pivotal 4 months for QPR imo.
 
I can see them staying up to be fair, but on the other hand IF they don't, I doubt QPR would have included drop clauses' and they will face some real money issues.. will be a pivotal 4 months for QPR imo.

I very much doubt they'll face money issues unless all the rich owners leave the club.
 
I can see them staying up to be fair, but on the other hand IF they don't, I doubt QPR would have included drop clauses' and they will face some real money issues.. will be a pivotal 4 months for QPR imo.

They absolutely badly need some centre backs. If they sort that area out - along with their new signings - then they have a chance.
 
I very much doubt they'll face money issues unless all the rich owners leave the club.

well it doesn't matter how rich you are the company is loosing money and spending out millions to save your revenue dropping to Championship level...

When it goes to Championship level it wil be a lot less attractive and I can't imagine him sticking around for ages... See Pompey

They absolutely badly need some centre backs. If they sort that area out - along with their new signings - then they have a chance.

Got to agree, that is the first thing they need/ needed, Arry to sign Kaboul/ Ekottu from Spurs again? :wenger: For their sake, hope they can get an older established CB rather than a young potential ridden CB as it would have more immediate impact.
 
Use QPR as stepping stone to Manchester United! How Harry convinced M'Vila to join relegation fight

By Ralph Ellis

PUBLISHED: 08:11 GMT, 16 January 2013 | UPDATED: 09:34 GMT, 16 January 2013



Harry Redknapp convinced Yann M'Vila to join Queens Park Rangers by telling him it was the quickest route to Manchester United.

Hoops boss Redknapp expects to complete the £7million deal in time for the 22-year-old midfielder to play at West Ham on Saturday.

But asked how he had persuaded one of Europe's most sought after young talents to leave Rennes and join a relegation fight, he said: 'I just made him feel he was wanted, that is the key.


Forward planning: M'Vila has been told he could eventually end up at Old Trafford

'I told him that he would come here and be a good player, and if he does well, if we stay up, in 18 months he could get a move to Manchester United, or Arsenal, or Chelsea, if that is what he is looking for.

'In the meantime he could come here and we put him on the stage and show what he can do.

'If we can build a team then hopefully he will stay with us. If not he will put himself on the stage for bigger things.'


M'Vila has 22 caps for France and was part of their Euro 2012 squad but he is serving a two-year ban from international duty after he and four other players in the Under 21 squad went on an unauthorised night out in November.

Redknapp said: 'He is a top, proper footballer. He can play. He controls the game, he can pass the ball, he is strong.

'He's had a few problems off the field but he is only young. If he behaves himself and comes and plays for us as he is able to then he will be a
great asset.'
 
He's a top player and if he can cut out the bullshit attitude of his and focus on his football then no doubt in 18 months he will be a top club. £7m is a bargain he will be a brilliant signing for QPR.

It really highlights how shit of a manager Mark Hughes is doesn't it...just look at the signings he made compared the quality of player Harry Redknapp is looking at.