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2022-23 Performances

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Looked the most out of place player out there. Isn’t for the level we require
 
Completed 2 out 6 passes, dispossessed twice, 0 tackles, 0 interceptions. Too slow to have any impact on the game. Utterly bizarre decision to start Weghorst upfront.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
He looks as a nice lad, he gives his best but blimey, he is completely out of depth.
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Came to post exactly this - again.

We desperately need another striker or two in the summer window. Get Martial out as well.
 
Wout's a plan B, that's how he should be used. Tonight was just the latest example of that.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He genuinely offers nothing outside of “pressing”. He must stop starting matches
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And his pressing is nothing special. Barcelona was comfortable passing around, killing time. It sounds harsh to skate someone who really try hard, but really trying hard at this level is not good enough.

Nothing new to add from what had been written here for a while now. It's the same performance, only the opponent quality and result blinded some people.

To some random poster who said he's not slow, just lack acceleration: Losing a foot race to Christensen toward the end of first half should settle any debate about WW's speed.
 
He's not very good, people can talk about the runs he opens up for others all they like but we're just a better team when he isn't playing. He's a plan B that we've been forced into using as a plan A while Martial recovers.
 
I kinda feel sorry for him as I reckon Eth had no intention of starting him as much as he has.
 
As a poor man's Fellaini, he's alright but he shouldn't be starting games as a striker against any decent team.
 
Sylar said:
I kinda feel sorry for him as I reckon Eth had no intention of starting him as much as he has.
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Hes won the lottery. He gets 3m quid for playing for united for 6 months. He will get a good move on the back of this, so dont feel sorry for him.
 
If Sancho is watching the game at double speed, Weghorst is watching it at triple speed, although he at least brings the attitude and effort. Unfortunately, just not good enough.
 
A level or two below the rest. You can almost feel the reluctance to pass to him.
 
Lord Zlatan said:
Hes won the lottery. He gets 3m quid for playing for united for 6 months. He will get a good move on the back of this, so dont feel sorry for him.
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Well every player gets paid well.
I reckon we would all like him more if he was coming on as a sub rather than starting
 
How is it possible to be that useless in the air when you're that tall and a striker? Baffling, really.
 
I'm honestly starting to believe now that ETH is only playing Weghorst in the first half to physically tire out defenders before replacing him in the second half, moving Rashford in the middle and playing much faster pace football.

No other reason why he keeps starting him.
 
To be fair to him, he would have been more useful to play behind a striker as he did in the first game. For some reason, the manager thought he would be the guy who should be chasing the ball down to channels and bringing it down from long balls. It just exposed more of his weaknesses.
 
Lord Zlatan said:
Hes won the lottery. He gets 3m quid for playing for united for 6 months. He will get a good move on the back of this, so dont feel sorry for him.
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I'd image the whole experience will make him a better player too for he's back at his level.
 
Insane amount of work he does in closing down but..umm..not much else outside of that.
 
He works hard and has found ways to be useful in recent games, but its just not good enough to have a striker who doesn't score goals playing every game
 
AltiUn said:
He's not very good, people can talk about the runs he opens up for others all they like but we're just a better team when he isn't playing. He's a plan B that we've been forced into using as a plan A while Martial recovers.
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He's not even plan B in important game. He should just be a sub player.

Plan B in my opinion is starting Rashford up top or Bruno as false 9 adding another midfielder in. Martial injury doesn't mean you just shoehorn WW in and become hinderance for everyone because we have to play hipster formation: Bruno right wing limit his impact; Rashford and Sancho stepping into each other space, all while the midfield lack number.
 
Sylar said:
I kinda feel sorry for him as I reckon Eth had no intention of starting him as much as he has.
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You say that, and it could have been the case for some of the earlier games with injury and suspension issues, but Ten Hag didn't need to start him today. McTominay or Sabitzer could have started in midfield, Antony or Garnacho could have started on the wing. All would have offered more than him, while allowing Rashford to play CF again and others in their more natural positions.

It was fortunate Utd were able to come back in the 2nd half as the decision was really backfiring.

As per above, unless there's literally no one else fit, which wasn't the case today, then he should only be kept for a late sub (and ideally only when Utd are already ahead)
 
Should only be used against lower PL or vs non PL cup opponents. Bad decision to start him against Barca..
 
He has to play as a No.10 or not play at all. He's dreadful and completely negates any ability to play in behind as a striker.

I said a few pages back that anyone that has thoughts of keeping him are with all due respect out of their mind. We are carrying a player as his offensive contribution is pretty much a negative.

I feel for him as he's a trier but six months at United and possibly a trophy or two will be the stuff of dreams for him.
 
Funny how we looked like a much better attacking unit when Antony came in for him. Not good enough.
 
Like him but he's a stop gap backup brought to do a job and part ways at the end. Never good enough to keep after the season or to have rashford playing crosses to or whatever else was suggested.
 
Wasn't a great display. Plenty of effort as usual but I hope he plays much better on Sunday or not at all.
 
He seems to be a positive character in the squad and he works really hard. That's about the best I can say for him.
 
footballbite said:
You say that, and it could have been the case for some of the earlier games with injury and suspension issues, but Ten Hag didn't need to start him today. McTominay or Sabitzer could have started in midfield, Antony or Garnacho could have started on the wing. All would have offered more than him, while allowing Rashford to play CF again and others in their more natural positions.

It was fortunate Utd were able to come back in the 2nd half as the decision was really backfiring.

As per above, unless there's literally no one else fit, which wasn't the case today, then he should only be kept for a late sub (and ideally only when Utd are already ahead)
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I'd trust ten hags judgment on why he's picking wout over the names you mentioned
 
#07 said:
Wout's a plan B, that's how he should be used. Tonight was just the latest example of that.
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No he's a Championship player. You wouldn't see a club like Barca or Madrid keep him as a "plan B", neither should we.

Hopefully people stop talking about how much impact he has. He tries hard and presses well, great, but he's fecking atrocious as a footballer. It's not a mystery as to why we instantly started dominating Barca that second half
 
Jacob said:
A level or two below the rest. You can almost feel the reluctance to pass to him.
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Happens a lot with the functional signings. I'll always remember Schneiderlin being ignored by his teammates who clearly didn't trust him with the ball in tight spaces. He was great at Southampton and looked the quality DM we needed, but you could tell by his 2nd or 3rd game that the players around him didn't want to give him the ball when he was back to goal or going to be pressed by an opponent upon receiving it.

It's one of those things that seem to translate from the varying levels of sunday/recreational football I imagine most people here play all the way to the Champions league.
 
I think he looked as ineffective as I feared he would last week. He got away with it to some extent then, but tonight I wanted him off after 20 minutes.
 
With Sancho back, Antony back and Garnacho earning more and more trust, Rashford should be our main striker with the others rotating the wings. Weghorst should be what he was loaned to do, plan B and rotate to rest where possible.

And this does make me think, could Rashford be our "number 9" going into next season? And our big signing is another wide forward style player? Is that why we wanted Gakpo? And then sign a back up/rotation option for Rashford upfront? Certainly feels there are more wide forward style attackers than out and out strikers available.
 
Can't fault his work rate in the first half. Don't think he was bad tbh, it's just that he doesn't have that much else to give.
 
Weggy was a bit wobbly tonight, but the opposition was just too far above his level to be able to bother them.
 
NoPace said:
Happens a lot with the functional signings. I'll always remember Schneiderlin being ignored by his teammates who clearly didn't trust him with the ball in tight spaces. He was great at Southampton and looked the quality DM we needed, but you could tell by his 2nd or 3rd game that the players around him didn't want to give him the ball when he was back to goal or going to be pressed by an opponent upon receiving it.

It's one of those things that seem to translate from the varying levels of sunday/recreational football I imagine most people here play all the way to the Champions league.
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I don't agree with this being ignored by his teammate narrative.

IMO, it's more about his positioning and anticipation ability (and his slowness). He's not a good option for playing through behind opponent's defense most of the time, so he's just allow opposition to compact the space around him, which makes it harder to uses him for linking up play despite he has a solid first touch. Even when attacking the box, he can't lose his marker, or quick enough to occupy advantageous attacking position for a cross. So it's very difficult to supply service to him in open play.
 
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