Imagine when osimhem is there instead of him
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Was an odd decision to start him to be honest, didn't seem like the game for him at all and we clearly needed more in behind than what he can offer.
Lets be honest though, he was never brought in to play games of this magnitude, so whatever.
Lets be honest though, he was never brought in to play games of this magnitude, so whatever.
Even if we ran with Rashford at striker, we'd need to buy another "understudy" type (Sesko possibly). But the only wide forwards I'd want to buy in that case are Mbappe or Kvara. Not sure anyone else is the required level (although I admit I have a soft spot for Mitoma
)Yeah, that's what I said. A back up/rotation for Rashford. Good shout on Sesko.Even if we ran with Rashford at striker, we'd need to buy another "understudy" type (Sesko possibly). But the only wide forwards I'd want to buy in that case are Mbappe or Kvara. Not sure anyone else is the required level (although I admit I have a soft spot for Mitoma
There's a few wide forwards I'd take. Vinicius if there was a chance (if you're mentioning Mbappe, I'm saying him). Test Spurs resolve for Kulusevski. Ansu Fati might be worth a punt, rotating with Sancho, Garnacho and Antony remember.
I have no dislike for him, he's clearly giving it everything he has.
But he really might be the least talented forward we've ever had. He's so painfully off the pace.
Hopefully he scores the winner on Sunday but I'm starting to think he should be a bench option even if Martial is unfit.
But he really might be the least talented forward we've ever had. He's so painfully off the pace.
Hopefully he scores the winner on Sunday but I'm starting to think he should be a bench option even if Martial is unfit.
To the casual observer he seems completely useless. But when you look up close...
...he's completely useless at everything but pressing, holding up play and basic passes. Which is sometimes quite handy. Also he's not injured, 37 or a narcissist. But I'd rather play him against Leeds than Barca.
Agreed yeah, and it's not his fault he's not the quality we need.
You can have players clearly not good enough, like him, but if they are giving it everything they have then you shouldn't get angry at him.
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You can be fairly angry at the fact we were so mismanaged over the last 'insert years here' that we had to sign him.
Anyway we have a few wingers back now so hopefully he becomes a bench / rotation option which was the intention anyway.
Yeah he's doing his best and he's a lot better than nothing. Blame the Glazers for not spending in January and for buying Ronaldo in the first place just to fluff the share price. But then if they hadn't we might still have Ole managing.
It was the right decision to bring him off at halftime. He may not be contributing goals, but you know he’s going to give it everything when he’s on the pitch. That’s all I can ask of any player.
Yeah course but that's not his fault. It's the cnut owners. It's actually ridiculous that we ended up in a position of having to sign him, we've basically been signing stopgap strikers for years. And Weghorst isn't even good enough to be a stopgap.
I think tonight should be the final straw in terms of him starting every game. He's doing his best but he's so far off the standard it's comical. Ten Hag taking him off at HT instead of the usual thing with managers where they wait until the 60th minute was great, too many managers let a game drift.
Seems a nice lad, tries hard just nowhere near good enough. Not sure what his best position is but don’t think it’s striker.
When the wins stop he‘ll be the first for the chop.
When the wins stop he‘ll be the first for the chop.
This can’t be allowed to continue.
We never ‘had’ to sign Ten Hag. We found ourselves in a position of needing a short term striker, and we signed Weghorst because our manager fancied him. Which is a poor decision from Ten Hag. But we were not in a position where we ‘had to sign Wout Weghorst’. It was a choice, likely made by the manager.
What was the alternative?
3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.
Sign a better footballer than Wout Weghorst.
Of all the stop gaps mentioned - Morata, Dembele, Memphis, Thuram, Aboubakar - Weghorst is comfortably worse than all of them. And that’s off the top of my head, Weghorst wasn’t even ‘available’, we went to great lengths to get him out of an existing loan. If we were willing to be that creative, I’m certain we could have found a better player. The main problem was in the fact that Ten Hag actually seemed to rate Weghorst.
You think we could have got any of them players with no money?
Ok so it''s the fantasy football angle.
Should have just loaned Mbappe for feck sake
No. I suspect we’d have paid, like we did for the striker we did get.
Yes, was exactly the sort of list you’d reel off when playing fantasy football.
On the spectrum of free loans to £9m for Joao fecking Felix - then yes, although naturally, I can’t tell you what the loan fee would have been. Obviously. However, these are the names we were linked to, presumably because they were available in the short term for less than £10m.
I really don't think we'd have got Morata or Marcus Thuram on a 6 month loan for £2m.
Being linked to them means nothing, we get linked with everyone.
It's quite interesting watching someone play in an environment that is so obviously out of their depth. This loan has probably made his career, though, and he seems like a nice enough chap who works hard. Vital we get in a proper number 9 in the summer.
Time’s running out to be a cult hero. Even Ighalo had his moments
We were linked to ‘everyone’ who was in a certain category. Felix was a £130m player with 4 years left on his deal. He was loaned for £9m. Thuram is not a £130m player and had 6 months left on his deal. Morata is perennially loaned and by all accounts was available for a short term deal.
Then there were the others that I actually mentioned who did move in January, and did not cost a lot of money, like Memphis and Aboubakar. Loans for squad players are not expensive, and it’s not unfeasible to think that there would be other players besides Weghorst available for 3m. But I can’t prove it, and you ‘really don’t think we’d have gotten them for that amount’ so nothing further to discuss I guess. Clearly, you haven’t seemed to want to consider that Ten Hag just wanted Weghorst.
He's just not good enough.
People are feeding on scraps by trying to praise him. He works hard, but that's a bare minimum.
People are feeding on scraps by trying to praise him. He works hard, but that's a bare minimum.
He's trying his best and clearing putting in the work so no one can complain about his commitment. He's simply just not good enough to play at this level though unfortunately.
Poor game, couldn't get into the rhythm and looked out of his depth but tried his best I guess.
If he's involved on Sunday, I hope he scores. Would be ace and a nice confidence booster in what has been a hectic few weeks for him.
If he's involved on Sunday, I hope he scores. Would be ace and a nice confidence booster in what has been a hectic few weeks for him.
There are few instances where his sub changed the game, all of a sudden we look more fluid and a better attacking threat as soon as he is subbed out.
You are a much better poster than this. We clearly weren’t signing any of those players in January, come on now.
I’m going to put a 100 quid that he’s gonna score in one of the 3 finals we are going to be in.
Based on what ? Also what makes you think those clubs would have allowed the player to leave them midseason as they're all important for them or that the player himself would have wanted to come unlike ? Strange view IMHO
He looks to me as though he suits a more direct style of play, he’s certainly tall enough to nod the ball in from crosses like a traditional centre forward.
It's not his top speed that is the problem, when he gets there he is quite fast. It's not his brains, he finds good spaces and passes. It's all about lack of explosiveness. Start-stop acceleration is not there. Maybe, do some extra short explosive training every day will help him. Otherwise.. its kinda strange to play him in these faster games where he needs to have that reactive speed.
He just lacks the quality to play at this level, simple as that.
He runs, he tries he fights for every ball but in most cases to no avail.
I just wish we had the funds to buy a decent striker but that's what we have atm.
He runs, he tries he fights for every ball but in most cases to no avail.
I just wish we had the funds to buy a decent striker but that's what we have atm.
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