Ffs we could have loaned Mbappe's leg instead of him. We were linked with everyone.
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If the only point of him playing is to be mobile we might as well stick anyone who can move about a bit up there.
His only attribute aside from that is that he isn’t Ronaldo. He can’t head, he can’t pass, he’s slow and he doesn’t score.
His only attribute aside from that is that he isn’t Ronaldo. He can’t head, he can’t pass, he’s slow and he doesn’t score.
Hmm.. there were occasions where our player could have passed to him and didn't. Maybe they don't trust him that much to finish. I think if Bruno passed to him instead of trying to nutmeg the keeper, Weghorst should have scored though. He was on 1v1 situation with the defender behind him and he usually wins in that kind of situation.
He is but I think I’ve seen him win one header his entire time here, he often doesn’t even attempt for win headers its infuriating.
But you would see Barca bring in Luuk de jong on loan, when they cant afford to get a striker.
Same as us. Make no mistake, we got him on loan because thats all we could afford to do in this position and hes the only one available given Ronaldo had to leave, and martials injury.
He's so slow, deceptively slow! 
Is this the Aboubakar who was at Al nassr, where Ronaldo went? And who has joined Besikstas to replace Weghorst and seems to be doing worse at Besiktas than Wout was doing?
Need to stop playing him. He ain't it
I feel bad for Wout 
Last time I saw a player so out of their depth was Felliani against Bayern. This isn't his level, his level is a 6-10 ranked European league
I’d have no problem with Wout being our 4th choice striker whilst we play a 1 striker system either Gary.
I slightly feel for him. This opposition was several levels above his own and it would have been abundantly clear to him yesterday. But then again, he got to play Barca at Camp Nou and Old Trafford and that's something most people of his level don't ever get to experience.
I have said this many times: he has too little in his arsenal to be realistically useful for us as a striker. Most teams are simply not threatened by him at all, he needs to played through on goal to score and then he still might not. He lacks acceleration and pace, his heading ability is deceptively bad, his shooting and finishing below par for a striker, his hold up play and his link up are average. Really, what he offers, is work rate and some decent movement. But hat's nowhere near enough at this level.
United cannot really afford to be playing with strikers that don't have the pace to stretch the defence. We are toothless that way. Our game relies heavily on being able to play balls over the defence for players to chase and that can never work with someone like him.
Rashford should play #9 until Martial is back and Wout should only be used to give Rashy breathers. But he should never be a starting XI choice in important fixtures unless every one else is out.
I have said this many times: he has too little in his arsenal to be realistically useful for us as a striker. Most teams are simply not threatened by him at all, he needs to played through on goal to score and then he still might not. He lacks acceleration and pace, his heading ability is deceptively bad, his shooting and finishing below par for a striker, his hold up play and his link up are average. Really, what he offers, is work rate and some decent movement. But hat's nowhere near enough at this level.
United cannot really afford to be playing with strikers that don't have the pace to stretch the defence. We are toothless that way. Our game relies heavily on being able to play balls over the defence for players to chase and that can never work with someone like him.
Rashford should play #9 until Martial is back and Wout should only be used to give Rashy breathers. But he should never be a starting XI choice in important fixtures unless every one else is out.
He seems to be taken off at half time a lot so ETH is obviously aware Wout is obviously not setting the world alight. But he's getting a start every game. Is it just a ploy. Almost see if we can get ahead in the game playing Wout. If not, throw on some fast effective players like Garnacho etc who instantly up the tempo and change the game. We've seen Garnacho start a few games and he's also struggled. But coming off the bench he is way more effective. We have limited options up front, it seems we have to just get used to seeing Wout start a lot more games until the end of the season.
I was all for this loan when it happened. Admittedly didn't watch him much at Burnley but I'm sure I remembered him being thought of as handful for the opposition and a nightmare for defenders whenever we were due to play Burnley. I thought we were getting a target man who would put himself about in the box, win arial duels and chip in with some important goals.
What we have is aplayer who works hard but is not in sync with the rest of the team because he's too slow to keep up with the pace of the football we are playing. Also seems like he is not clinical finisher, and mistimes when he leaps to win headers as he loses more duels than you would think for a 6'5 man.He was a liability last night I was shouting for him to be taken off since all he was doing was losing ariel duels and just running around like a headless chicken he was so easy for barca to take out of the game.
I think could find a big lump who works in the warehouse of screwfix or builders depo and I think they'd do the same job
What we have is aplayer who works hard but is not in sync with the rest of the team because he's too slow to keep up with the pace of the football we are playing. Also seems like he is not clinical finisher, and mistimes when he leaps to win headers as he loses more duels than you would think for a 6'5 man.He was a liability last night I was shouting for him to be taken off since all he was doing was losing ariel duels and just running around like a headless chicken he was so easy for barca to take out of the game.
I think could find a big lump who works in the warehouse of screwfix or builders depo and I think they'd do the same job
I think the penny finally dropped last night for ten hag with weghorst
Have we tried him as an impact sub? offence or defence? I can’t quite recall
He was rubbish last night but we still have a lot of games left and can still play a role against weaker opposition. I doubt we'll look to sign him but he's here now and will have a role to play as the season continues.
The team improved tenfold getting him off the pitch. You can not have a CF who is not a legitimate goal scoring/creating threat. The opposition CBs can then just press high up against your other forwards.
As soon as they have to worry about a striker on a 1-1 basis (either dropping in and creating, or running in behind) it's a different game.
As soon as they have to worry about a striker on a 1-1 basis (either dropping in and creating, or running in behind) it's a different game.
Barca literally moved 15m towards their defence once Rashford replaced him up front and we were allowed to take over possession, it was a different game once we replaced him. You can't have that kind of player in a game like this on the pitch. Luckily Ten Hag replaced him after first 45 minutes.
I mean, Real Madrid has Mariano; Barcelona had Martin Brathwaite, who scored 8 in 36 games for Middlesbrough - so yeah, they have/had bad plan B’s too.
He was a cheap, short term loan option, but the difference between us and Real Madrid/Barcelona is that he’s expected to play week in week out as our first choice has been injured for most of the season.
I mean, yes, the alternative is playing Rashford up front - but I understand the hesitation as Rashford was in the form of his life on the left - and in general, plays better there.
Had we signed Aboubakar, the post would have been: Morata, Dembele, Memphis, Thuram, Weghorst - Aboubakar is comfortably worse than all of them
Yeah his teammates were desperately feeding him in the Leicester game but he’s just too slow. The sequence where he had a head start but ended up comfortably losing to Christensen in a foot race summed it up.
Reality is our options were limited and shit, we wouldn't have got any of the good players from that list on loan and it's abundantly clear we weren't interested in someone permanent, presumably because that's where a big chunk of our summer budget is going.
Some games he has been useful and other games he has been poor. I think one of his best qualities is that he is different and we play differently with him. In so many games since Christmas we have won games due to tactical and personnel changes. Garnacho has been poor whenever he has started but as an impact sub hes great. Sancho is the same at the moment.
There is value to be had by playing in 2 very contrasting ways in order to cause chaos amongst the opposition which they are unable to compensate for. Being one note and the only thing your subs offer is fresh legs isn't enough at the sharp end of football.
There is value to be had by playing in 2 very contrasting ways in order to cause chaos amongst the opposition which they are unable to compensate for. Being one note and the only thing your subs offer is fresh legs isn't enough at the sharp end of football.
Yep, was crazy reading all this today.
Out of all the options, I understand why we went with what we did. It probably ended up being the cheapest and most reliable in terms of what ETH wants to achieve for short term gain.
He will still play plenty of games this season. I agree yesterday he shouldn't be starting, but maybe Antony couldn't play for 90 or something.
I expect him to start on Sunday. Game against Newcastle with 17th choice goalkeeper is more his level.
I expect him to start on Sunday. Game against Newcastle with 17th choice goalkeeper is more his level.
I will still hope that he doesn't start on Sunday, just like I hoped he wouldn't start yesterday. We're just a more dangerous team without him, he's no threat to a defence. We need him because we need to rotate and rest players, but this is a final. You don't start your rotational, squad players in a final, unless your best XI is unavailable.
He can start the FA Cup game against West Ham in midweek.
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Good against teams who sit back as a target man, and excellent off the ball. Can be a good 3rd choice striker next season behind Osimhen/Kane and Rashford.
We have good forwards now. Rashford, Martial/new CF, Sancho, Antony, Garnacho, Amad/Pellistri, Weghorst.
We have good forwards now. Rashford, Martial/new CF, Sancho, Antony, Garnacho, Amad/Pellistri, Weghorst.
Yeah, no. He can go be first striker at Burnley, next season.
If we spend money to sign 31yo Weghorst in the summer, something is terribly wrong. There's significantly better options available on a free.
he's started every game i think
its a ploy by ETH to look like a genius when he subs him off and we improve
It must come as a shock for opposition defenders when they have to mark Rashford instead of Weghorst. Two completely different players.
Maybe that's one of the reason he starts so many games.
Maybe that's one of the reason he starts so many games.
He reminds me of myself when I play sunday league. I play upfront too and i'm really shite and no one passes me the ball but I only play because our main striker is a borderline alcoholic and is never available.
I thought so before we bought him but he's simply not.
Not a dig at ETH but him as a #9 has been basically useless if not a big hindrance to our attack so far.
Memphis literally changed clubs, and I believe Aboubakar did too. Moussa Dembele has been available for ages. These players were no less available than Weghorst, who we went and got out of an existing loan deal much to Besiktas’ annoyance.
I don’t write the stories - these are the options that were discussed. Not Osimhen or Kane, I’ve hardly listed the cream of European football. Again, some of them actually moved. As did Joao Felix, just to show spectrum here - I’m not even taking about him, but even HE moved on loan! There are a lot of levels in between Joao Felix and Wout Weghorst. Even Chris Wood went on loan and he’s better than Weghorst too.
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Yep him, former Porto striker who is a better striker than Weghorst to me.
now that Antony is back surely he doesn't need to start most games now going forward. play Rash up top, Sancho Bruno and Antony in behind.
Bench on Sunday.
We mightnt see much of him over the final few weeks when ( if) Martial comes back
I thought he would be better
We mightnt see much of him over the final few weeks when ( if) Martial comes back
I thought he would be better
He was at Porto three years ago and before 30 ended up in the Saudi Pro League.
I think ill trust ETH over you on this short term signing
And you remind me of my mate who is so shit that you could not dare to put him anywhere near your goal. The further away the better. So he's our striker. And he only plays because he's our mate.
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