Wout Workhorse
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No chance.
Wow, some of the comments on here really highlight peoples complete lack of football knowledge.
Weghorst played in midfield today and won more tackles than anyone else. In the second half he was like a machine, winning the ball back and cutting out Leicester attacks on the transition. Every time Bruno, Sancho or Rashford lost the ball, Weghorst was straight in there to win it back. He recycled the ball so many times I actually lost count. He was also playing through balls for the forwards to run onto.
He was a beast today. He did exactly what Ten Hag asked him to do. The only way that we dominated that midfield, without Casemiro was because Weghorst was tracking back and making tackles. They couldn't get away from him.
People think that because he missed an overhead kick, that we should all have a big laugh at him, but he was solid today. And you lot really have got a clue.
What a way to disrespect Mandzukic
Spider - Horst
Spider - Horst
Does whatever a spider - Horst does,
Can he score a fecking goal
No he can’t, cos he’s a Horst.
Look out, he is a spider- Horst!
Spider - Horst
Does whatever a spider - Horst does,
Can he score a fecking goal
No he can’t, cos he’s a Horst.
Look out, he is a spider- Horst!
Where are people getting this from? He had the worst pass completion % of any Utd player aside from Fernandes - but Fernandes actually makes things happen and had 9 key passes compared to Weghorst's measly 1 (same number as Shaw, W-B, Dalot and Martinez. Even Fred had 4).
He also had the joint most unsuccessful touches with Fernandes out of all Utd players (both with 3).
Yes he made a decent number of tackles (4), but he wouldn't need to make so many tackles if he didn't lose the ball so often - thus forcing him to desperately try and win the ball back all the time to compensate for his initial incompetence.
It also seemed again as if other players actively avoided passing to him when breaking forwards, knowing quite rightly that he'd likely kill any attack.
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He was really good today. Unlucky not to score.
Thank God we got a manager that knows his stuff unlike most on here
i'm amazed people can't see this. I get that the lack of goals is a disappointment- i mean he is a striker after all- but he was bought here to do a job, partly because a certain egotist had a meltdown and got himself fired and the other striker can't stay fit for more than two games running. He's not a great player, no one would say that, but he's doing a job for the team, much like Igalho and Henrick Larsson (who was a great player) before him
He's shite lets not beat about the bush, also anxious about scoring at Old Trafford, reminds me of Forlan in that regard....only way they are comparable.
His workrate was superb but not a cat in hells chance he becomes a permanent signing
His workrate was superb but not a cat in hells chance he becomes a permanent signing
I mean he's very limited but I don't really see how somebody could watch him today and think "wow, he was useless".
His link-up play was solid and his work-rate was a real asset for us, especially in those first 25 minutes when Leicester were running us ragged. There were several occasions where Weghorst intervened after the defence was caught out.
His finishing has been pretty dire and more generally he is just technically not as good as the players around him. I do, however, think that some people just shut themselves off to anything positive he offers because they've made their mind up that he isn't good enough.
His link-up play was solid and his work-rate was a real asset for us, especially in those first 25 minutes when Leicester were running us ragged. There were several occasions where Weghorst intervened after the defence was caught out.
His finishing has been pretty dire and more generally he is just technically not as good as the players around him. I do, however, think that some people just shut themselves off to anything positive he offers because they've made their mind up that he isn't good enough.
I don't think Weghorst has been that great but I could say with some conviction that he's been more of an asset this season than Ronaldo was on the pitch.
He deserves a goal for all of the effort he has put in so far, In fact I would rather have him over Martial purely for this work rate.
Oops typo. I meant pressing monster, not passing monster.
Why not? We’re winning with him in the team, he offers something. Without him tracking back would Rashford get as much freedom as he currently does?
Yeah, I thought he was good today but the match day thread was obsessed with how shit he was. Personally I felt his performance deserved a goal then everyone would have been talking about how good he was.
His run for the Sancho goal was great as was his work rate from the front. I hope he has a couple of big moments between now and the end of the season.
He’s a couple of big goals away from becoming a cult hero, let’s hope he gets them
He is a goal threat same as I am from my living room. If you consider him a goal threat how would you call a Rashford? Being a goal threat mean that defenders are generally scared of you. He got into good position because he striker, but didn't score, that's a big difference.
You make it sound like everything he is bad at is normal because you didn't expect him to be good at that certain thing. He is very slow, and at least he could compensate with his aerial threat, but he is not, because he is very poor in the air. What exactly does he compensate in attack to his poor aerial presence?
Just because you buy Mini it doesn't mean everyone is happy with Mini, meaning some people would rather try something else than playing shite striker in striker position, or let alone midfield. You can say that he was decent signing, but that doesn't mean he should be in our first XI 90 minutes every week.
How happy are you with Eriksen if you are that happy with Wout? Because he is ten times the player and he didn't cost us ten times what Wout cost us. Also, I would play for free for United and would leave my lungs on the pitch, is that enough for me to stay in first XI, or to make me good signing for United?
He's actually performing the new role pretty well but feck me we need more in front of goal. We can't carry somebody who is fluffing so many chances.
We need Sancho, Garnacho and Bruno to start pitching in as well. If another one of them along with Weghorst start finding the net regularly then we’ll be flying
I love him.
He is a shitty striker. But he brings something to the team so I can see why ETH starts him
I like him for sure, I’d start him over Martial for most games to be honest. I’d bring Martial on as an impact sub if he’s got it in him
It's kinda similar to what's expressed here (there's a section where Ten Hag and Bruno comment on Weghorst in the video):
He was brought as a striker, but in his current role, it seems like he's being asked to do just about anything in the attacking half of the pitch except for the striker role. He's doing a ton of defensive work, making runs to open space, laying off balls he gets - anything but actually making decisive runs or score goals, which is what you'd expect from a striker. I wonder if that was planned or if Ten Hag observed that Weghorst in practice comes up short in the striker position in the EPL, and figured he might instead be asked to do everything around it.
It's useful, cause it enables others to focus more narrowly and get more out of their game - even if most likely there are others could play this role better. Either way, I think this might be a cause of some confusion, and one of the reasons why some think Weghorst is failing in every aspect. (I.e., judging him too much by striker criteria of success. Again, I know that's why he was brought in, but he's playing a different role now, so let's talk about that. I think everyone agrees he's a subpar CF for United's desired level of play.)
Also interesting how Ten Hag thus viewed the second Leeds game partly as a training game for Barcelona: Shaw/Malacia at LCB/LB and (later on) Weghorst as a kind of AM.
I agree. When I said decent I was more comparing it to the rest of his skills that I quite frankly think he sorely lacks.
The praise this place gives players that try hard is just absurd at times. Some in here would have you think he was prime Firmino and just didn’t quite deliver a goal to cap off a performance
You’re fecking insane if you’d start him over a fit Martial (and ETH would tell you the same)
Why are people using arguments that we are winning games with him now, or that Rashford scores because of him, etc.
1. We won 6 out of 10 games with him in the team, before that it was literally 12 wins in 13 played. I am sure we've also scored more goals on average per game without him in the team.
2. In first 5 games playing with Wout Rashford has scored just two goals, with more goals coming in recent 6 games (in which Wout has started playing more deep). Before Wout started playing for us Rashford has scored in 7 games straight.
Overrating from some is becoming embarrassing now.
He also had the most unsuccessful touches and was dispossessed the most in the team. I missed the game and watched the replay and really can't understand again what some see in him, he is obviously lower level player than majority of our squad.
1. We won 6 out of 10 games with him in the team, before that it was literally 12 wins in 13 played. I am sure we've also scored more goals on average per game without him in the team.
2. In first 5 games playing with Wout Rashford has scored just two goals, with more goals coming in recent 6 games (in which Wout has started playing more deep). Before Wout started playing for us Rashford has scored in 7 games straight.
Overrating from some is becoming embarrassing now.
He also had the most unsuccessful touches and was dispossessed the most in the team. I missed the game and watched the replay and really can't understand again what some see in him, he is obviously lower level player than majority of our squad.
where was I wrong in my summary, it was an objective view of his performance?
We’ll see when both are fit
he was not a goal threat. No different to Elanga in the sense that he gets into goal scoring areas, but never seems to find the net. No one would criticise a poster on here saying Elanga isn’t a goal threat.
If he’s not good enough, he’s not good enough. Regardless of price tag, being cheap doesn’t give him a performance multiplier
I think goal threat means you 'theatening the goal', I think he does that and been quite unlucky with a few. I think we have seen strikers that havent even been in a position to score.
Not sure who said he should play every week? I guess the person who picks him must be shite too?
Im happy with both tbh. I'll leave ETH to make that decision, already spoke today about his contribution to the team. Thats good enough for me...
Good enough for what? I think he's a goal threat and I think with a bit more luck, could easily have had a couple more goals but thats not why he is here. He is here to positively contribute to the team and the manager has already stated, thats what he is doing.
If the manager is happy with that, then thats good for me for now. The rest will sort itself out in the summer.
Nope.
Probably going to take a penalty. I pray to the football Gods that Martial can come back and stay back for the rest of this season. Heaven forbid the chance we need to actually win something falls to him.
Laughable really and you follow it up with absolute rubbish.
Some of you have standards that belong at teams like Aston Villa. I'm not even sure if you fully read my post and I feel like you just wanted to waste an essay praising Weghorst. I admitted he did half of his job very well but was awful at the other half, how is that not obvious. I also said, if we didn't have Rashford's tremendous finishing bailing him out he would be public enemy No.1 on here. Also a fact.
These are the kind of posts you'd read about Mctominay under Ole. Calling him a beast really makes me question when you started watching football.
I get that he's doing other things etc., but he's pretty Barry White. Get us some form of a no. 9 in the summer, please.
He was amazing at everything but being a striker today. A real team player, I hope he gets a few goals and gets his confidence.
His pressing and tackling was insane today. Even if he don‘t score Hag will keep playing him.
His pressing and tackling was insane today. Even if he don‘t score Hag will keep playing him.
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