And come to the conclusion, senior England international, first team Man United player, Rashford, is better than under 21 England International, championship player, Kane.
Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?
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And come to the conclusion, senior England international, first team Man United player, Rashford, is better than under 21 England International, championship player, Kane.
This for me, how many times have we heralded the next best thing only to be disappointed. HK is an established great young striker, far less risky.
This constant BS that Kane is just a finisher who is slow and awkward with little skill is simply shocking. Harry has 6 assists this season and is involved in most of our attacking play. His first touch and finishing is superb. He may not look that quick but his power and stength more than make up for it. He reads the game excellently and his workrate both offensively and defensively is top drawer. He hasn't peaked yet and has improved season on season.
As for Rashford I like him a lot but let's be honest he isn't going to be a first team striker under Jose and I don't think he looks half as good out wide. Assessing his potential is difficult but I'd be very surprised if he develops into a striker that comstantly gets 20-25 goals a season.
As for Rashford I like him a lot but let's be honest he isn't going to be a first team striker under Jose and I don't think he looks half as good out wide. Assessing his potential is difficult but I'd be very surprised if he develops into a striker that comstantly gets 20-25 goals a season.
My heart says I'd rather keep Rashford. Local United kid.
If the same question is asked of Spurs fan they'll also say they'd rather keep Kane.
If the same question is asked of Spurs fan they'll also say they'd rather keep Kane.
He won't be a centre forward. He'll likely end up being a support striker(10).
I wouldn't trade Rashfords gran for Harry Kane
No I wouldn't because I really think Rashford is the real deal.
Kane is a fantastic player but Rashford is a local lad and that is worth the gamble for me.
Kane is a fantastic player but Rashford is a local lad and that is worth the gamble for me.
Exactly
This 'well Kane only scored 2 goals when he was rashfords age' argument is nonsense really, because it still just assumes that Rashford will leap forward as much as Kane did in the next couple of years. Which is not guaranteed in the slightest.
No brainer for me, I'd take Kane.
Through sheer reason, I would take Kane, but my heart would never allow it.
Tough comparison considering that Kane is 4 years older than Rashford.
The former has had much more time to develop in that time diff than Rashford who has been thrown into the lion's den so early on.
Kane as a result, is now a much more consistent producer than Rashford. But Rashford has a couple of things more to offer than Kane -- blistering pace and the ability to play outside the box as well as finishing inside the 6-yard box.
This question needs to be asked at the end of next year when Rashford another full year under his belt.
The former has had much more time to develop in that time diff than Rashford who has been thrown into the lion's den so early on.
Kane as a result, is now a much more consistent producer than Rashford. But Rashford has a couple of things more to offer than Kane -- blistering pace and the ability to play outside the box as well as finishing inside the 6-yard box.
This question needs to be asked at the end of next year when Rashford another full year under his belt.
A player like Rashford is what this club is all about. Yes we are a financial superpower and can get the best players in the world, but nothing can replicate the joy of seeing a young lad from the Academy come up and become a world class star. After the class of 92 we haven't really had that. Pogba is one, but look how we almost ruined it with him.
We have been so close to finding the new star from the academy, I still Google Ravel Morrison to try and see if he's managed to turn things around..We must give Rashford every chance to succeed. Frankly having a player like Rashford come through and rise to the top is the true beauty of this club. Am sure Mourinho is going to make him succeed, nurturing him to be a world class player would silence all of his critics.
Also, we have enough money, we can buy Kane and keep Rashford. Thank you!!
We have been so close to finding the new star from the academy, I still Google Ravel Morrison to try and see if he's managed to turn things around..We must give Rashford every chance to succeed. Frankly having a player like Rashford come through and rise to the top is the true beauty of this club. Am sure Mourinho is going to make him succeed, nurturing him to be a world class player would silence all of his critics.
Also, we have enough money, we can buy Kane and keep Rashford. Thank you!!
Where was Kane at age 19?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
I wouldn't swap Rashford for Mbappe and my word I want Mbappe inside me.
What's that got to do with anything? Players develop at different rates, surely you must know that. Kane is now a class striker who's going to be one of the top scorers in the league every year. For Rashford to be better than him in the future, he's pretty much going to have to be world class. That's a big risk.
Really? Wow.
Any supporter that would actually entertain swapping a United academy product that has come good, produces goals and runs his arse off to press defenders out of possession because Harry Kane is currently a better striker needs to get a life.
I still would and I agree with him, it's a no-brainer really. I'm not going to say Harry Kane is world-class because he has yet to prove it in Europe but he is still an established 20 goals a season scorer in our league who has scored more than 20 goals in the league for the past 3 consecutive seasons and I believe if we have him, most of our draws could turn to wins and we would win the title. Anyway this is a hypothetical question because there's no way Tottenham will swap Kane for Rashford. Rashford need to be able to perform consistently, scoring 20 goals in 3 consecutive seasons before I change my opinion on this.
And you need to get a life just because other disagree with your opinion. What an arrogant statement to make. Post this question on a Spurs forum and they will be laughing and think this is a wum. As United fans, we tend to be biased and over-protective over our own players especially those who came through our home-grown but it's a matter of fact that Kane is on a different level compared to Rashford.
There's less than a 50-50 chance that Rashford will ever reach Kane's current level, let alone surpass it. Kane is only the fourth player to score more than 20 goals in three consecutive PL seasons (after Henry, Ruud and Shearer). It's a HUGE ask for Rashford to become one of the 5 most consistent goalscorers in Premier League history.
Based on the odds I came up with above, I'd have to go with Kane. It'd be silly not to.
Based on the odds I came up with above, I'd have to go with Kane. It'd be silly not to.
I stand by my views from before, watching Rashford excites me. Watching Kane is a bore. I would still go with the Rash.
Hyperbole is common on internet fan forums. Learn to understand that.
Kane is 4.5 years older than Rashford. At the same age it's no contest who's better. Rashford can improve and imo has more potential to contribute in a variety of ways Kane can't.
No worries mate and cheers. Just thought that your statement was a little ridiculous but I can see why lots of our fans would still take Rashford over Kane. He's homegrown and everything that makes United special especially since we haven't had a proper homegrown talent performing for us since the Class of 1992 but Kane is exactly what we need now. Anyway, I hope Rashford make me eat my words back in two years time.
The history of football is littered with players who failed to fulfill their potential. Only a miniscule proportion ever do. Kane is one of them. I hope Rashford is another, but the gamble is a big one. With Kane it's already a sure thing.
Probably my fault anyways mate.
I just see the current level at such a young age, the desire and natural gifts and can't help but extrapolate. I will always gamble on that combination, especially in a youth player, to come good.
At this moment in time, yes.
But there's no guarantee he will. As I and others have said, it's more likely he doesn't progress as well as Kane did in those 4.5 years, given that Kane is actually, well, pretty good.
I'd love Kane to play upfront with Rashford. Think they'd compliment each other excellently.
England will have that pleasure if they stop wasting time with Sturridge for God knows what reason
Sure, but there's also a chance he does. 4.5 years ago nobody would have swapped Wayne Rooney with Kane. How about now?
I also don't understand why we'd do this. There needs to be an extra value placed on players that come through the academy into the first team. They bring a required fabric and identity to the squad that's necessary to win.
Pretty sure you offer any non-united fan Kane or Rashford, they'd take Kane. It's only the fact that he's a product of your academy this is even a discussion.
It's biased in a way. But you are certainly wrong if you think it's only because of the fact that he is youth product. Rashford potential is pretty high. Put that in a context that he also seems to be one of those players who will spend extra hours on the training pitch and you can have a case for a discussion. It's not so clear-cut case.
How many academy players have made it in the last 10 years? You would do it because it's about winning. And Kane is just the better player right now, and most likely in the future. It's the equivalent of taking the points on the board. And we're not talking about a player that's slightly above average, Kane is already the best striker in the league.
Past academy players mean nothing as far as Rashford is concerned and in comparison he has achieved more at a younger age than all of them that broke through into the first team. If you want to really get technical about it then Pogba himself is an example of what the academy can produce.
Of course Kane is the better player now, but imo Rashford has the potential to be better. I wouldn't trade his potential and current level for the certainty of Harry Kane.
Our perception of his potential is also biased though.
Whatever potential Redcafe thinks Rashford has, knock off 20% and you maybe get the level we'd see in him if he played for a normal club. Knock of a further 20% and you get what we'd see if he played for someone like Liverpool.
Or, to put it another way, if Kane was a United player then a large portion of the CAF would be insisting that he's currently the best striker in Europe. That's the sort of stuff biased supporters do.
Kane had scored 10 goals and provided 5 assists for Millwall/Spurs at the age of 18.
I just think back to when we bought Andy Cole from our title rivals of the time. United need to be the club that buys the best striker in the PL. SAF used to be able to keep four strikers happy over the busy United season- two 9s and two 10s. Yorke and Cole and the SAS. Those were the days lads...
Of those goals, only one was scored for Tottenham - the last of 4 goals against Shamrock Rovers in the Europa League group stage. I'm not making any comparison to Rashford myself because I think it's pointless comparing how players stack up at different ages, but I think it's a bit disingenuous to subvert the stats like you did.