Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?

Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?


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Rashfod will never be as good as Harry kane, no doubt he has improved but i think he just does not have enough in his game. Kane is probably the best striker in the league, i donyt see rashford becoming that.
 
Genuine question....what would he have to do to make you no longer consider him overrated?

It probably is personal opinion, have always thought it. Have seen the likes of Tim Sherwood and Ferdinand saying they though he would turn into a decent premiership striker but not top level or at Spurs. I have just never liked him and when I hear him being talked of as a future ENgland great and centre forward for the next decade I dont see it. For me he has none of the different talents Rooney, Owen and Shearer before him have had, I dont think he will ever be anywhere near the level of any of them. Thing is, his stats dont lie though do they at the end of the day, he goes through patches where he just doesnt stop scoring and he is a decent finisher I cant deny that. I think Ali and Rashford are the future strike partnership for England and although Rashford is rough round the edges and doesnt as of yet have the finishing ability of Kane I wouldnt swap him for Kane in a million years, but I am biased. Ali is potentially world class for me, Kane is a good premiership striker and nothing more. I wouldnt sign him personally
 
It probably is personal opinion, have always thought it. Have seen the likes of Tim Sherwood and Ferdinand saying they though he would turn into a decent premiership striker but not top level or at Spurs. I have just never liked him and when I hear him being talked of as a future ENgland great and centre forward for the next decade I dont see it. For me he has none of the different talents Rooney, Owen and Shearer before him have had, I dont think he will ever be anywhere near the level of any of them. Thing is, his stats dont lie though do they at the end of the day, he goes through patches where he just doesnt stop scoring and he is a decent finisher I cant deny that. I think Ali and Rashford are the future strike partnership for England and although Rashford is rough round the edges and doesnt as of yet have the finishing ability of Kane I wouldnt swap him for Kane in a million years, but I am biased. Ali is potentially world class for me, Kane is a good premiership striker and nothing more. I wouldnt sign him personally

This is quite a long 'patch' of goal scoring. Also he is by far the best finisher in the league and I'd argue one of the best finishers in Europe right now. Anyway - as I've said before in this thread if I was a Utd fan I'd take Rashford because he is a local lad and i'd love him.
 
Genuine question....what would he have to do to make you no longer consider him overrated?

Signing for United would go a long way to dismissing his over rated tag.

In any case I wouldn't swap Rashford for Kane, not in a million years.
 
Rashfod will never be as good as Harry kane, no doubt he has improved but i think he just does not have enough in his game. Kane is probably the best striker in the league, i donyt see rashford becoming that.
Did you foresee Kane going on to be the player he is today when he was Rashford's age?
 
Did you foresee Kane going on to be the player he is today when he was Rashford's age?

Precisely.

In fact I would go as far as saying that Rashford's potential exceeds that of Harry Kane at similar ages. Kane was loaned out to Millwall of all teams, so the Spurs hierarchy couldn't have been that confident in his potential to pack him off to that pit of a football club.
 
It probably is personal opinion, have always thought it. Have seen the likes of Tim Sherwood and Ferdinand saying they though he would turn into a decent premiership striker but not top level or at Spurs. I have just never liked him and when I hear him being talked of as a future ENgland great and centre forward for the next decade I dont see it. For me he has none of the different talents Rooney, Owen and Shearer before him have had, I dont think he will ever be anywhere near the level of any of them. Thing is, his stats dont lie though do they at the end of the day, he goes through patches where he just doesnt stop scoring and he is a decent finisher I cant deny that. I think Ali and Rashford are the future strike partnership for England and although Rashford is rough round the edges and doesnt as of yet have the finishing ability of Kane I wouldnt swap him for Kane in a million years, but I am biased. Ali is potentially world class for me, Kane is a good premiership striker and nothing more. I wouldnt sign him personally
Appreciate the explanation and I get where you're coming from. With Kane it can be difficult to embrace just how good he is and I think it's largely down to things like his lack of top end pace, the fact that he isn't going to wow you with a ton of tricks and skill on the ball, and because, quite frankly, he just looks a bit funny when you watch him play...just doesn't quite look like a world-class player in the same way that those we most associate with that label do. But as you say, the stats don't lie and, as a Spurs fan, getting to watch him play every week is an absolute pleasure. Also seems to be a nice enough bloke.

As for Rashford, I personally think he's off-the-charts talented and the thought of him playing for Spurs and developing under Pochettino is a mouthwatering thought. Wouldn't trade Kane for him, though :)
 
Kane is the better player but Rashford is great too and a local lad who came through the ranks. It's wonderful that we have such an expensive squad but a lad like Rashford is still making a name for himself here.

And it's not like we don't have Woody chomping at the bit to spend big on shiny new toys every single summer, anyway. I'd happily keep Rashford over Kane.
 
Rashford MAY become a better player than Kane but will not be a better goalscorer,Kane like Cole is a natural goalscorer.
 
Kane has a powerful shot from all sort of ranges with both feet. The guy shoots from every range and from ridiculous angles, this is what I love about Harry Kane and is something Rashford simply does not have and probably never will. Some things just come naturally
 
Kane has a powerful shot from all sort of ranges with both feet. The guy shoots from every range and from ridiculous angles, this is what I love about Harry Kane and is something Rashford simply does not have and probably never will. Some things just come naturally

Not to mention his head. One of his most impressive goals, to me anyway, was a couple weeks back when he ducked down, and almost let the ball slide off his head re-directed it into goal from a set piece. Kane is 23 and on the verge of being a super star if he keeps up his current form, which only an unforeseen injury probably will stop. I like Rashford, and yes, he has a ton of potential, but I'd take Harry Kane right now over him in a second. I would think almost any manager and/or personnel director would as well.
 
This thread is daft. You are basically saying would you trade a striker who could potentially be one of the best in the league for a striker who probably is already best in the league who is still young himself

Sorry Marcus but I would snap Spurs hands off for a trade
 
I feel bad for saying this but even if Rashford scores an injury-time winner to win us the Europa League Final against Ajax, I'd still take Kane anytime of the day and I suspect Jose and Sir Alex would prefer Kane over Rashford as well.
 
I'm sorry but I still see the idea of this thread terrible because simply enough, we can have both, why replace one with the other ?
 
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This thread is daft. You are basically saying would you trade a striker who could potentially be one of the best in the league for a striker who probably is already best in the league who is still young himself

Sorry Marcus but I would snap Spurs hands off for a trade

Coming from a Didsbury lad no less :(

You should be supporting the idea of a local academy lad making it at United. Can you remember the last time we had striker of Rashfords talent come through the youth system? I certainly cant, for that reason alone we need to be backing Rashers to the hilt. If that's not enough, consider this, Rashford's dad is bigger than Kane's. True story.

I have no basis for this arguement, it is purely conjecture at this point, but i strongly believe Harry Kane will fail next season.
 
Yes, and I would do it today and play him next week.
 
I have no basis for this arguement, it is purely conjecture at this point, but i strongly believe Harry Kane will fail next season.

The only problem with that is that people have been saying that for the last two seasons since he first broke through, and he just seems to get better and better.
He's the real deal, he's proved that for 3 seasons on the bounce.
 
I have no basis for this arguement, it is purely conjecture at this point, but i strongly believe Harry Kane will fail next season.

I think it's more you strongly hope he will fail next season. I don't see it. Barring injury, if he only maintains his current level, he'll be the best striker in the PL and one of the best in the world. He's still 3 or 4 years shy of his 'prime' supposedly. Just my opinion. Could be wrong, but we'll see.
 
The only problem with that is that people have been saying that for the last two seasons since he first broke through, and he just seems to get better and better.
He's the real deal, he's proved that for 3 seasons on the bounce.

I think it's more you strongly hope he will fail next season. I don't see it. Barring injury, if he only maintains his current level, he'll be the best striker in the PL and one of the best in the world. He's still 3 or 4 years shy of his 'prime' supposedly. Just my opinion. Could be wrong, but we'll see.

Thanks for using fact to spoil my perfectly baseless theory. Tut.
 
Thanks for using fact to spoil my perfectly baseless theory. Tut.

Hah! Well, in the end, you could turn out being correct. None of us have a crystal ball and we've all seen the "next great" suddenly swoon into oblivion. That happens too, in all sport. But right now, I'd take Kane in a heart beat. We could pay him twice what Spurs can, and I'm hearing the #10 shirt might just come available soon. :cool:
 
Rashford does have the potential to be better. Even someone like myself who isn't overly sold on the lad just yet, on paper he does have the tools to be better than Kane but the bottom line is Kane is already one of the very best in England and it's very possible that Rashford may even struggle to become that once the hype dies down - on the flip side I can't see Kane ever dominating Europe unless he starts upping his game dramatically as current level wise he wouldn't trouble a top defence in the champions league imo.

Rashford on the other hand has that top level pace and the potential to have the tricks to really scare top level defenders and be a force to be reckoned with at the very highest level however he is still very raw and and has a really low bottom level imo where pace aside he can look mediocre. With Kane his fundamentals are sound and he doesn't look shite, just sometimes comes across one paced.
 
Rashford is 19. Kane is 23. Both are young and have great potential
 
Kane has a powerful shot from all sort of ranges with both feet. The guy shoots from every range and from ridiculous angles, this is what I love about Harry Kane and is something Rashford simply does not have and probably never will. Some things just come naturally

That is very much a fair comment and justifiable argument
 
The only problem with that is that people have been saying that for the last two seasons since he first broke through, and he just seems to get better and better.
He's the real deal, he's proved that for 3 seasons on the bounce.

Yeah I am one of them haha. I did comment earlier he goes through patches where he cant stop scoring and somebody said it has been three years. This isnt true the last couple of seasons he has actually started awfully each season from memory which does make his goalscoring record all the more remarkable
 
Rashford is 19. Kane is 23. Both are young and have great potential

A point people are missing as well, Kane wasnt even on the scene, I remember seeing him playing for England U21 or U19 in a tournament and not thinking anything of him at all. That doesnt mean Rashford will be a better player than Kane at 23 as people mature at different ages. I wonder in what regard the two players are held within bigger European sides as I neber hear of Kane linked with big sides like Dele Alli often is for example?
 
Kane's physicality is at its peak right now, there's nothing potential about him. Have to get him pronto to exploit his best years, which he may even already have spent. Got a feeling his physique won't age well. That said, he's much more of a monster than Rashford who might just end up bombing down the channels. It will take a really smart, concerned boss to identify Rashford's best role and stick with him in it. Ironically, Pochettino would be one. In conclusion? Probably.
 
Kane has a powerful shot from all sort of ranges with both feet. The guy shoots from every range and from ridiculous angles, this is what I love about Harry Kane and is something Rashford simply does not have and probably never will. Some things just come naturally

never will is a bit harsh rashford looks good with both feet too and his free kicks aint bad .
 
Kane's amazing and I'd love him here, and though I believe there's great potential in Rashford it isn't a dead cert he will reach the heights his potential suggests as you just never know in life. With that said, I'd never trade.
 
Kane isn't a dead cert either. He embarrassed himself in Europa
 
Kane isn't a dead cert either. He embarrassed himself in Europa
True, he hasn't hit the heights he's set in the PL in Europe and for the national team but he has scored 20+ goals in the PL these past 3 seasons and 30+ in two of his last 3 seasons overall, I believe. That's got to count for a lot regardless.
 
Kane isn't a dead cert either. He embarrassed himself in Europa

I'm assuming you mean the Champions League, in which he's scored two goals in three appearances. Even if he'd not scored in any of those matches, it's a tiny sample size. Cristiano didn't score his first CL goal until his fourth season, Zlatan scored 9 in 41 for Juventus and Inter combined, while Peter Crouch's record in the CL is 7 goals from 10 appearances. If Kane's at the right club and stays fit, I've no doubt he'll become the top English scorer in CL history.
 
I'm assuming you mean the Champions League, in which he's scored two goals in three appearances. Even if he'd not scored in any of those matches, it's a tiny sample size. Cristiano didn't score his first CL goal until his fourth season, Zlatan scored 9 in 41 for Juventus and Inter combined, while Peter Crouch's record in the CL is 7 goals from 10 appearances. If Kane's at the right club and stays fit, I've no doubt he'll become the top English scorer in CL history.
Own goal in europa with many miss chances

useless in the euros for england
 
No.

Rashford has shown glimpses of world class ability. It hasn't been consistent, and you can't fault a teenager for lack of consistency. However, I was considering making a similar thread, but came to the conclusion that despite Kane's end product which is the best in the country as of now, Rashford is everything this club is about. To trade a player from our academy who could be greater than a player from Spurs (or might not be, yet has shown much more at a comparable age imo) is insane.

There's no player I'd prefer to see succeed than Rashford. Perhaps Pogba, but it's quite close.

I'm just about old enough to remember previous academy flops. Rashford isn't one of them. He's clearly top level in terms of ability and desire. His mentality is also something which can't be bought.

It might happen that he doesn't make it, but it's far more profitable for all involved to gamble that he does and do everything necessary toward that end.
 
Coming from a Didsbury lad no less :(

You should be supporting the idea of a local academy lad making it at United. Can you remember the last time we had striker of Rashfords talent come through the youth system? I certainly cant, for that reason alone we need to be backing Rashers to the hilt. If that's not enough, consider this, Rashford's dad is bigger than Kane's. True story.

I have no basis for this arguement, it is purely conjecture at this point, but i strongly believe Harry Kane will fail next season.
Accepting a current reality doesn't mean not supporting and hoping that Rashford turns into a top class player.
 
Yeah I am one of them haha. I did comment earlier he goes through patches where he cant stop scoring and somebody said it has been three years. This isnt true the last couple of seasons he has actually started awfully each season from memory which does make his goalscoring record all the more remarkable

Oh don't get me wrong, I've been one of his doubters as well but there comes a time when it's just got to be accepted that he's a top striker.
 
Coming from a Didsbury lad no less :(

You should be supporting the idea of a local academy lad making it at United. Can you remember the last time we had striker of Rashfords talent come through the youth system? I certainly cant, for that reason alone we need to be backing Rashers to the hilt. If that's not enough, consider this, Rashford's dad is bigger than Kane's. True story.

I have no basis for this arguement, it is purely conjecture at this point, but i strongly believe Harry Kane will fail next season.

It is nice to see local lads in the team definitely but I didn't really consider it that way. My thinking was purely based on the fact that with Harry Kane in our side next season we would take a massive step toward challenging for the title

Of course, in reality, I would love to see us buy a top striker and allow Rashford time to develop
 
The only question mark I have about Kane is those periods where he stops scoring and looks like a posh, blonde blancmange wobbling about the pitch wondering what the hell he's doing there. The Euros was a spectacular failure from him, all the nation's hopes on his shoulders, talk of being the new Shearer etc, and his sum contribution was shanking a few terrible corners into the stands. When he does something away from Spurs he'll convince me I'm sure but for now, no. Very impressive season though, good to see him coming on strong at the end of it for once.