Sorry, what? Did I say otherwise?
Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?
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Sorry, what? Did I say otherwise?
No, you didn't. But what you did do was include total goals for Millwall/Tottenham to try and mask the fact that only 1 of them was for Tottenham. It'd be like defending Falcao's time at Chelsea by saying he's scored 29 goals over the past 2 years for Chelsea/Monaco.
I absolutely love the fact that we have a 19 year old academy graduate that we are arguing about here. We all know Kane is bloody good. But it's great that we have a player so many of us wouldn't swap for him.
I haven't been this excited about a youngster since Ronaldo honestly.
I haven't been this excited about a youngster since Ronaldo honestly.
Is that a fact? I "masked" a fact by clearly stating Millwall/Spurs. Nope. No need to assume things to fit your narrative.
I don't see what defending Falcao has to do with pointing out that an 18 year old Kane was showing his potential already at 18. In fact, he was out on loan in League One the season before and scored 5 goals. Not too shabby.
People act as if Kane wasn't around before Tim Sheerwood.
People are comparing the respective impacts of Rashford and Kane. Scoring 9 goals for Millwall in the Championship and one in the Europa League for Tottenham against Shamrock Rovers just doesn't stack up compared to what Rashford's done since he burst on to the scene. Clearly I'm just misreading your intentions, but it just came across as trying to make Kane's early impact sound more impressive than it actually was.
And I really don't have a narrative in this. As I said, I think these comparisons are pointless. I still have quite substantial reservations about Rashford and I wouldn't be surprised if he never reaches Kane's level. All I was doing was pointing out what I saw as being a deliberate attempt to blur the facts. That is all. Apologies if that wasn't the case.
Well, must agree on that. I was thinking initially what to put under his potential (good, high, enormous...). It's very subjective and we can just go in Januzaj thread few years ago to see it. But that subjective element is always there as you said.
All I'm saying that he has potential to become very good striker and that is quite unanimous opinion. Were I put my hopes is again the fact that he is obviously hard working in training according to all we can hear behind the stage and that 2 things combine gives you good base to say he will develop further more. That's the reason why I initially reacted to the claim that we are hyping him only because he is our youth product. He is damn good for his age, that's the reason.
You are not misreading his intentions, they are clear as night and day.
Kane isnt coming so its probably a pointless question. At one time spurs couldnt hold onto their players. Now theyre the second best team in the country.
Second best team isn't good enough for people that want to win. Can Kane and the others stomach another season of carrying just to fall short. He wants to be careful or he might do a Gerard
Even though Kane scores a lot of goals, the only players I would consider having from the Spurs team include Delli Ali, Eriksen and Dembele. Rashford has a lot more dimension to his game. If Rashford continues to develop further, he can definitely be better than Kane. So a resounding no.
In comparison to Rashford who's a shit
Rose would significantly improve us in that position too tbf.
Offcourse, that's why this is discussed in Manchester United forum and not City, Liverpool, Arsenal or some other team's forums.
This is discussed here as clubs fans tend to be bit emotional towards academy players.
The argument is comparing Kane to Rashford's potential, a point missed by quite a few here. Kane at 19 was nowhere close to what Rashford is doing now - who is playing for a bigger club, with far more pressure - I think Kane will be like Defoe or Smith or any of those prolific English strikers - lethal finishing being core. Rashford is well, a mystery but IMO more talented (at the same age)
At this moment you would have to swap Rashford for Kane. Kane has been scoring goals for 3 or 4 seasons. there is no guarantee that the arse will not fall out of Rashford. I don't see that happening to Kane. The thing that sets Rashford apart from Kane is his pace. Kane is not slow but Rashford is unbelievably quick Rashford could easily turn out to be a better player than Kane but i am not sure he will turn out to be a better goalscorer
I think people are highly underrating Rashford. The kid is 19, who has only a season and a half of first team football in him, playing with immense pressure and is thriving. He still needs to improve some aspects of his game, such as playing with his back to goal and his decision making, but he's a phenomenal talent.
Add to that the fact that he works his bollocks off and puts in extra work on the training pitch and you've got the makings of a top footballer.
I would also like to point out that others like Rooney, Owen got more attention at a younger level (being touted the next best player) - clearly attitude is everything.
Agreed. Can't wait to see people eat their words after a couple of seasons! Go Rashford!
His attitude and will to succeed is what the fans like the most - stays back after training, is the team's primary set-piece taker and works his ass off everyday. It is this (apart from the frankly boisterous talent) which makes the fans think he has a bright future.
Can Harry Kane bend his body in a snake-like manner?
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Called it. No contest!
Rashford/ Kane is going to be lethal for England. They need to sort out the midfield though
Remember this thread? Embarrassing...
Why is it?
Or it's going to be a huge issue trying to play 2 strikers and getting outnumbered and outclassed in midfield?
Why?
This thread was dumb at the time and still is.
Rashford certainly has a lot of potential. But seriously? people wouldn't trade him in for Kane? Guy about to win his 3rd successive Golden Boot.
Yeah, I would.
Yea I can see that, as of now England do not have midfielders who can play in a system that requires two strikers.
As football fans we can often be excused of wearing "rose tinted specs" but this thread
Yeah but in his own right Rashford is an exciting talent and 'one of our own' so you can understand why some would rather root for him.
Knew this would be bumped.
Thing is, I still wouldn't.
Thing is, I still wouldn't.
This is why..
Am I the only one noticing Rashford does most of his best work outside the box than in it? I'm not all that clear he is a centreforward really, let alone a Mourinho CF or Kane-type.
Still, nope.
I wouldn't just because it's more satisfying to see a Manc come through the Man Utd ranks. I would much rather see Rashford develop given I think he just looks like he could excite me more than Kane. I don't even know if he will be better than Kane can be. It's just that Rashford's got a lot in his locker and it's exciting to see where it could take him.
Don't get me wrong, Kane is the best striker in the league now. He's an absolutely lethal finisher, I just wouldn't trade him for Rashford. Rashford is one of our own. Kane is own of Spurs' own.
Pretty much agree Vertonghen. Ali and Dembele for me. Personally (not saying he isnt good but) I think Kane is massively over rated in this country, at the same time, cant argue with his goal record
Genuine question....what would he have to do to make you no longer consider him overrated?
This is exactly how I felt about Welbeck when he came through, one of our own