Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?

Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?

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Watching a local talent come from nothing to become a top class player, firing the team to success in the process, is surely the greatest enjoyment a fan can have. I don't think we've got the right conditions for that to happen though, personally.

Lots of instability, increasing need for short term success and a CEO with a penchant for buying superstars is not a good mix for developing youth, and strikers are always the most vulnerable.

So while I love the idealism of it, I think pragmatically Kane makes much more sense. As much as people want to avoid it, football is not a game fuelled by romanticism any more. I also think Kane is a lot better than he gets given credit for and Rashford still has an awful lot to prove. He's going in the right direction but there's absolutely no guarantee he'll be a top striker.
 
ShadesOfTomato said:
Kane, at 23, has scored 20+ goals in 3 seasons already in the Premier League. That's better consistency than a Torres or Drogba at still a young age. Yet by reading this thread, you'd think he's the reincarnation of David Nugent.
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There's something about Kane that just screams average PL journeyman, doesn't matter how good he becomes or how many goals he scores. I think it's his face/hair, or maybe because he's boring.
 
Jayvin said:
There's something about Kane that just screams average PL journeyman, doesn't matter how good he becomes or how many goals he scores. I think it's his face/hair, or maybe because he's boring.
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The comparison to Muller is often cited, and what Muller's going through now does give you a glimpse into the legitimate reservations people have towards Kane in spite of his undoubtedly exceptional (domestic) record. He's being compared to a league one footballer by some Bayern fans now.

Plus his lack of success so far in continental or international football makes you wonder whether he is missing something to take that next step. His dull style of play and pretty dull range of qualities is the main instinctive driver of it, but rationally there is something there too.

I personally think he's easily good enough to play a leading role for league champions and probably an important role for UCL challengers, but he does still have questions to be answered.
 
Shark said:
As we seen with Welbeck, Januzaj, among others, a lot can go wrong with young talents. I've a lot of faith that it won't with Rashford, but you never know. Kane is young himself and considering what he's done for Spurs up to this point, he'd be a no brainer.
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Not in a million years .
 
No I wouldn't swap them, as I hope our local lad Rashford can become even better.

It does blow me away how some people are dismissing Kane as if he's a nothing player though. The new Carton Palmer. The "average journeyman" who at only 23 himself, has 69 goals in 110 Premier League games (the same as Luis Suarez achieved).
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Tbh is unbelievable people saying no.
Kane is top five in his position in the world.
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I like a good goalscorer, but Rashford is special. I don't think he can be as efficient as Kane when it comes to scoring goals, but he can tie up a defense by himself. Get Rashford a good partner and he can feared by any club in the world. So no....not Rashford....but he is one of few I wouldnt trade for Kane
 
Jayvin said:
There's something about Kane that just screams average PL journeyman, doesn't matter how good he becomes or how many goals he scores. I think it's his face/hair, or maybe because he's boring.
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So if Kane came out and said hes secret Utd fan, and there was £50 million buyout clause, you wouldnt want us to bid for him? I dont get the bold bit either. Hes one of the top strikers in world football today.
 
wolvored said:
So if Kane came out and said hes secret Utd fan, and there was £50 million buyout clause, you wouldnt want us to bid for him? I dont get the bold bit either. Hes one of the top strikers in world football today.
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I just meant there seems to be something about him that causes people to not rate him. He's obviously a good player going by his stats alone, but hardly anyone outside of Spurs fans seem to be the slightest bit excited about him.
 
Jayvin said:
I just meant there seems to be something about him that causes people to not rate him. He's obviously a good player going by his stats alone, but hardly anyone outside of Spurs fans seem to be the slightest bit excited about him.
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He sounds boring or has a boring voice when interviewed, but if he had of started here and was scoring like he does, we would be all over him.
 
Kane is criminally underrated on here, it's absolutely mental really. I do love ouel Rashers, though.
 
Hell no. Rashford is the superior natural talent who has the same work ethic and costs us zero pounds. Long term his potential is in all likeliness higher than Kane's. Not to mention his being a home grown local lad. The proposal is too dumb to contemplate. It would make more sense if you were proposing us having both. And no this doesn't mean I don't rate Kane.
 
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Watching a young player grow up with United is one of the greatest feelings possible. I think Rashford is genuinely exceptional and everything I've seen of him and read about him says that his attitude and temperament is absolutely right for United.

Would I swap Rooney and Zlatan for Kane? Of course I would. But I wouldn't swap Rashford. He's on 10 goals so far this season, there's a genuine maturity in his game and he's got masses of talent. He's not swappable, but that doesn't mean we can't add someone new to the team.
 
Shark said:
As we seen with Welbeck, Januzaj, among others, a lot can go wrong with young talents. I've a lot of faith that it won't with Rashford, but you never know. Kane is young himself and considering what he's done for Spurs up to this point, he'd be a no brainer.
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Welbeck was always ridiculously overrated on here. People I know - not RedCafe users - never rated him nearly as highly as some on here did. For me, Rashford already looks a far better player than Welbeck ever did. As for Januzaj, well it's just a shame that things never worked out for him here as he looked so promising when he broke onto the scene.
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Tbh is unbelievable people saying no.
Kane is top five in his position in the world.
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Don't mistake people rejecting the either one or the other option, with underrating Kane. No one serious would reject having Kane AND Rashford in one attack. Same way no one serious should want to sacrifice Rashfor's potential just to have Harry Kane. For if you can get a Spurs fan from Spurs. A Real or Barca could certainly get him from you......
 
jojojo said:
Watching a young player grow up with United is one of the greatest feelings possible. I think Rashford is genuinely exceptional and everything I've seen of him and read about him says that his attitude and temperament is absolutely right for United.

Would I swap Rooney and Zlatan for Kane? Of course I would. But I wouldn't swap Rashford. He's on 10 goals so far this season, there's a genuine maturity in his game and he's got masses of talent. He's not swappable, but that doesn't mean we can't add someone new to the team.
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Basically this.
 
Manchester United are able to buy player's of Kane's calibre, on top of having local talent like Rashford. So no.
 
Rashford all the way. Wouldn't trade him for anyone, he's our lad.
 
Yes, with a heavy heart. We need a top goal scorer and Kane is that. 20+ goals in 3 consecutive seasons is no mean feat.
 
If this question was asked two months ago the result of this poll would be a lot different.
 
I remembered a night at recent EURO, while having a beer, trying to enjoy the way England play...I was down in frustration watching this called England-New Shearer-Greatest-Striker-to be- Mr. Harry Kane...

Done nothing, slow pace, stupid IQ of Football, for almost 70-80 minutes playing time...indeed, England was playing very bad, but with this all talking about Harry Kane supposed to be shine in Euro, a poor Man like me could hope, was he ? But what i saw was a nightmare play...scarier than meeting of the Freddy Krueger himself...

And then, he was substitute by this young lad, Rashford, with only a little time to left...and man, this boy without hesitation try his best to lead his team to score and to win the game...eventhough at the end we all know the result...

Rashford is still a boy, his play have so many black dots...but sure he will improve, he may not be a World Class beater, but i am very sure that he will lead England attacking force in 3-4 years ahead...

Keane without his Spurs team will be nothing...just my 2 centsss..
 
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Moonred said:
There's just too many of these inane threads discussing complicated scenarios. Innovation just for the sake of innovation kind of.
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nothing complicated about it really. I don't see why grown men are struggling as if the thread maker has asked us to decide between saving the life of your brother or your sister. You just choose one and possibly write a couple lines underneath as to why.
 
ShadesOfTomato said:
Kane, at 23, has scored 20+ goals in 3 seasons already in the Premier League. That's better consistency than a Torres or Drogba at still a young age. Yet by reading this thread, you'd think he's the reincarnation of David Nugent.

From a non-biased point of view, I'd take Kane all day.
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That's not the premise of the question though. It's would you swap what we as fans have at the moment and give that up in exchange for signing Kane.

Imagine the same proposition but we were talking about a clone of Rashford who grew up round the corner from Anfield and had played his way up through your academy and was starting to figure as a regular first team player with incredible promise.

Would you want to give that up?

Too many football fans these days focus solely on stats and an "on paper" attitude towards things. There's a dwindling appreciation for the romance of the game and the enjoyment of the experience. In 20 years time I hope to be looking back fondly on these years as when I watched a young Rashford breaking into the team and developing into a world class striker.

Why give that up?
 
Sterling Archer said:
You're bringing up stats from the last three seasons for Kane, right? So look at our team, this team in the same last three seasons.

2016/17 - obviously yes. Old man Ibra has a very respectable 17 goals and would have hit 30 in all comps if not for the injury. So all those guys , Kane, yes they hit the mark maybe even turn the draws into wins to the point we are where Spurs are now.

2015/16 - didn't we have one of the lowest chance creations in the league? I can't recall the exact position Vs the rest of the league. I can't imagine Ruud or Kane getting 20 goals that season.

2014/15 - not as poor in terms of chances if I recall but still far from dazzling. It's a maybe that any of them would 20. 15 maybe.

Now if we are talking about putting one of these forwards into the United side next season with better wingers, fullback another year with Jose at the helm then that's a whole different story.

But that's not my point. I'm not dismissing the quality of any of those guys and saying Rashford is or will become better. I just think as far as pure goals there are a lot of guys that can come in and do a job. I'm recalling Benny McCarthy for instance. If we look abroad there are in my opinion a fair number of strikers that could come in and get the job done. But I don't feel the same about the skill set that Rashford has. He's a different type of forward and if he reaches his potential then regardless of actual goal haul I think he'll be as effective and influential for us as Henry was for Arsenal or Etoo for that Barca side. His pace and ability on the ball are damn good for his age and if he adds clinical finishing I don't think it can be rivaled. I imagine someone like Aubamuanfofog but better.
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Well Kane will be coming into this current team and I don't know how it could be perceived any other way. Someone suggested that we can find strikers like Kane and I pointed out there have only been 3 others in premier league history, which means he is on the heels of the elite premier league goalscorers. The thread, I assume is would you swap Rashford now for Kane, in simpler terms. So whether it was "would you swap the potential of Rashford for 27 year old Shearer" or whatever, the fact is that at his previous clubs, Shearer had bagged over 100 goals and Kane in previous seasons has over 60 league goals, so coming into the United team with some serious weight behind them, into a team which creates many chances, they could drive us to the next level. The Van Gaal era is irrelevant in this discussion.

Benni had one good season in 4 years and it was for a lower level side and not a title challenger so it's a "no" from me.

You seriously overrate Rashford. His dribbling is very erratic. He is no Raheem sterling with his dribbling, nor is he a Zaha, so the ideas that he has unique skillsets are far fetched. This the same Rashford who kept dribbling off the pitch for months on end. Many 18 year old attackers have had and will continue to emerge with superior dribbling skills and finishing to Rashford. His stand out attribute is his pace. The rest can be matched and bettered, even by other teenagers. The reason I love him is that he is soooo random. He can do some clumsy clowninsh shite one moment, then pull out some world class move, so it is entertaining to me to watch. The Henry and Eto'o comparisons are comedy gold and 3 weeks ago would've had a person barred from the Caf for wumming
 
Shark said:
As we seen with Welbeck, Januzaj, among others, a lot can go wrong with young talents. I've a lot of faith that it won't with Rashford, but you never know. Kane is young himself and considering what he's done for Spurs up to this point, he'd be a no brainer.
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This but would loathe to lose Rashford and have another striker lacking blistering pace. Rashford could easily be a Fraiser Campbell or just as easily a Michael Owen level on breakthrough. Lol big choice.
 
No I don't think so. But I'd buy Kane, to partner him up front!
 
Stacks said:
nothing complicated about it really. I don't see why grown men are struggling as if the thread maker has asked us to decide between saving the life of your brother or your sister. You just choose one and possibly write a couple lines underneath as to why.
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It is complicated because there isn't a guarantee of one option triumphing the other. And when you are choosing one you'd want to have that guarantee as your club's success would depend on it. There is no struggle though, as it matters zilch in terms of practical impact which is absent.
 
For those saying Kane is boring/dull to watch, you wouldn't be saying that if he'd been scoring 20+ goals per season for United for the last 3 years.

Besides, he isn't boring to watch. Don't mistake personality for football talent. That header on the weekend is case in point. PL journeyman? Lol, he's one of the best strikers in the world.

There's more chance that Rashford doesn't reach Kane's level than surpassing his level. But I can see why fans still wouldn't swap.
 
Moonred said:
It is complicated because there isn't a guarantee of one option triumphing the other. And when you are choosing one you'd want to have that guarantee as your club's success would depend on it. There is no struggle though, as it matters zilch in terms of practical impact which is absent.
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Well then surely that makes it a good thread then? because it sparks interest, debate, differing opinions, surprising results, people explaining their choices, frivolousness and conflict :devil:
 
septic said:
For those saying Kane is boring/dull to watch, you wouldn't be saying that if he'd been scoring 20+ goals per season for United for the last 3 years.

Besides, he isn't boring to watch. Don't mistake personality for football talent. That header on the weekend is case in point. PL journeyman? Lol, he's one of the best strikers in the world.

There's more chance that Rashford doesn't reach Kane's level than surpassing his level. But I can see why fans still wouldn't swap.
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That is not going to happen. At the end of their careers, Rashford will win more than Kane.
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Tbh is unbelievable people saying no.
Kane is top five in his position in the world.
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Surely your joking? lol... And it seems like your not even English to say this.

Realistically, Kane has done well in one single competition, him and his team have been irrelevant in continental competitions and he hasnt made any mark Internationally either.


It would be pushing it to say Kane is a top 10 striker right now let alone top 5... Yes the way he plays which is more of a pure goal scorer, hes probably top 10. But strikers need to be more than that (and im not saying he doesnt have other levels to his game, this is just to my lead up of players I'd consider forwards who play as forwards generally).

Lewandowksi, Aubamyeang, Higuain, Dybala, Cavani (this ones a maybe), Suarez, Ronaldo (yes he operates more like a striker now), Benzema, Costa (also somewhat debatable), Griezmann, Lukaku (even if you dont think hes as good now, which if you look at pure scoring he already is.. And kanes converted 4 penalties as well out of his tally. He has many more dimensions to his game), Sanchez, Aguero, probably even Lacazette and Mbappe.


For me Kanes a typical player that would fail at United, like others have.. Seems like a signing waiting to go wrong, really hope we wont ever sign him and I'm serious. You can get much better or just as good for the price and premium of him being English.
 
Stacks said:
nothing complicated about it really. I don't see why grown men are struggling as if the thread maker has asked us to decide between saving the life of your brother or your sister. You just choose one and possibly write a couple lines underneath as to why.
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Im astounded by the people who come in and say things like 'oh my god what silly thread idea, id never do XYZ'. Why are you viewing the thread then? just let it go and you will be fine.
 
Stacks said:
Well then surely that makes it a good thread then? because it sparks interest, debate, differing opinions, surprising results, people explaining their choices, frivolousness and conflict :devil:
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I don't doubt it and I might have been mischievous in playing down the merit of OP's intention. This could be entirely my fault that I am not interested in choosing between one who is an academy graduate and him reaching the pinnacle would bring joy that the other option won't. However, I do think Kane is a more sensible choice at the moment. Went with Rashford in the end.
 
Sereques said:
That is not going to happen. At the end of their careers, Rashford will win more than Kane.
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That's not what I said though. Anderson won more than Gerrard, doesn't mean he surpassed him as a player though.
 
With a different manager the answer might be different but Kane looks like a good fit for Mourinho.

I have a lot of time for Rashford of course but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Glad this is a hypothetical question rather than a real situation because it would be very sad to see Rashford leave.
 
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