Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

[matt10000]

We have arguably the best team in the league. We are where we are as it's hard af to not be competing with a team like this. But Ole’s doing a good job of it.

Another contradiction!

You say “We have arguably the best team in the league”

Yet you say the reason that we are competing is not because of Ole ?!?

Ole’s remit after years of poor transfers was to build a young team to compete and he is doing that. Whether he is the man to take us to win it or whether he makes us competitive and hands over reigns at some point, either way he will have done what was asked of him and leave us in a much better state than any previous manager since SAF

 

[matt10000]

so firstly the good. Bruno has been brilliant. Clearly an Ole driven signing too. Board let him down by not getting it done in the previous summer. Telles is probably a backup option, but wasn’t expensive and brings something a bit different so that's ok.

Cavani on deadline day was a mess. if he really wanted him, sign him 2 months earlier. Pretty sure he had no intention of signing him or any other cf until sancho fell through.

then it falls into 2 buckets. Bucket 1: decent players who don’t seem to fit into how we perceive he wants to play: maguire, awb, dvb. They still improve us compared to some of the direness we've had, but they aren't great.
bucket 2: cheap young punts you can’t really blame (or praise?) him for. dan james looking like a poor one, but guys like pellistri may turn out.

There doesn’t seem to be any clear strategy with them. For the 200m odd he’s spent, you'd expect a team starting to form in his vision. There's also the matter of contract renewals which have impacted transfers. (though again, you probably can't blame him entirely) Matter of opinions though isn't it? Some might think Maguire and AWB are wonderfully suited, and that'd alter the overall opinion a lot. Diallo could become the next Messi or bruno could continue his numbers, and you'd again have a different outcome. But as it stands, I don't think he's done enough.

THAT SAID, he's done better than both LVG and Mourinho. The fact he's not been totally wasteful says something, and perhaps we simply lack the structure to properly support signing the players we want/need for our philosophy. So yea, maybe a bit harsh.

Not all SAF’s signings worked out, especially in the early years before we won the league. Ole is doing good and being an intelligent man, I don’t doubt that he is learning more and more about this unique job all the time. Right now he is the most experienced manager, that isn’t retired, at managing man utd in the world.

 

[wolvored]

I think this is how the majority feel about Ole's reign thus far. He's excelled in every department bar the more intricate tactical side of the game, which is why I hope he stays with the club in some regard if/when he gets sacked.

He's a decent manager, truth be told, but his tactical deficiances hold him back. He'll undoubtedly improve in that area given time and experience, but not to the extent required to become a top-tier coach.

Ive said that myself in other threads. Get him a WC or as near as dammit head coach/assistant manager to sort all the coaching, tactics, drills etc. Get Ole to take his advice for in game management as well.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

It's been such a weird season so far, it's hard to say he's doing a bad job looking at the table, potentially two points off the top, but it just masks the performances.
Without doing a part season review.
Palace - Comfortably beaten. We dominated the ball, they didn't care, we couldn't do anything with it. (Currently in the bottom half)
Brighton - Won with a last minute penalty, to a team that were much the better side throughout, hitting the post 3 times if I remember correctly. (Currently in the bottom half)
Tottenham - We were absolutely embarrassed at home for the full match, by our former boss.
Newcastle - Went 1-0 down, familiar story, but actually is the only premier league game this season I say we comfortably were the better side in a game
Chelsea- But of an even game to be honest, cant remember many memorable moments apart from we could have given away a penalty, which I think most thought was one.
Arsenal - A bit like Chelsea, not a memorable game, second best to most things and another loss.
Everton - A decent win to a team who had just dipped in form after a great start. Another time we had to come from behind. Was the better side here but I wouldn't say dominant.
West Brom - Cant remember the game perfectly. Only managed a penalty goal, and from what I remember they had quite a few chances, hitting the bar.
Southampton - 2-0 down, could have been out of sight before a comeback and a last minute winner. Dreadful first half, good second half.
West Hame - 1-0 down at half time, could have been 3 or 4. Much like Southampton, a good second half masked a dreadful first half

We've scored 19 league goals this season, and according to the stats, Bruno has scored 7 and assisted 4 of these.
We're a Bruno injury away from being a team without a clue. I don't think Ole actually improves us.

 

[Dve]

The coaching is really starting to worry me, yesterday the plan was basically have Cavani Martial and Greenwood sit on the shoulder of the defenders and hope for a through ball.
That may work with a team playing a high-line but when a team has 2 deep banks of 4, which a moyes team were clearly going to do why on earth would you set up like that?
And after years of having the same problem we still have no idea how to break down teams playing that to tactic apart from give it to Fernades and hope he can come up with something special.

We scored 3 goals, yet you are complaining we cannot beak down a defence.

When you meet that kind of aggressive press, it not such a bad idea to get the ball faster up the pitch, typically to a meeting attacker. He´ll have a man in his back, but he´s still first on the ball and you could hope he´d be able to hold on to it while more people are added to the attack. Normally, Martial is quite good at it. In the first half, that was more the idea than hoping for a through ball.

 

[Mainoldo]

Another contradiction!

You say “We have arguably the best team in the league”

Yet you say the reason that we are competing is not because of Ole ?!?

Ole’s remit after years of poor transfers was to build a young team to compete and he is doing that. Whether he is the man to take us to win it or whether he makes us competitive and hands over reigns at some point, either way he will have done what was asked of him and leave us in a much better state than any previous manager since SAF

Well this handover is aslong as Trump not giving up the whitehouse. He needs to leave ASAP and give the job to someone more qualified for dealing with these Calibar of players. You see how he tried to disciple Fred for the red card by dropping him.

So amateurish. But he probably dig into his Fergie notes like he always does.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

On a side note why do people think Ole hasn't been backed well enough? Yes we missed out on certain targets but the reasons are quite sensible. Firstly with Haaland and Reguilon it's very acceptable we didn't sign them with the inclusion of a release clause. With Grealish and Sancho their priced were just too high. And with missing out on a CB last summer I didn't mind because we just finished the season as the 3rd best defense that had De Gea gifting goals.
We still have too many defenders in the team. And there wasn't any CB available last summer I thought can actually transform our defense unless we want to spend a fortune which is not happening after just spending 80m on Maguire

We missed out on Grealish and got VdB. For the the price and quality to play rotational AM could we have done better than that? I don't think so. We missed out on Reguilon and got Telles. Again, for the price and quality we got to provide competition for Shaw I don't think we could have done better. We missed out an Haaland and now have Cavani on a free. I understand we need a top class striker but after Haaland who else is there that's available for sensible money? We missed out on Sancho and got Diallo and Pellistri. I'd take those two anytime over Sarr or Brooks or whichever other underwhelming RWs were available

I'd say where we could have done better was last season where we should have gotten Bruno and a back up striker in the summer and not in January. And also the manner we handled last transfer window was embarrassing. But I think Ole has definitely gotten the players he liked

 

[anant]

It's been such a weird season so far, it's hard to say he's doing a bad job looking at the table, potentially two points off the top, but it just masks the performances.
Without doing a part season review.
Palace - Comfortably beaten. We dominated the ball, they didn't care, we couldn't do anything with it. (Currently in the bottom half)
Brighton - Won with a last minute penalty, to a team that were much the better side throughout, hitting the post 3 times if I remember correctly. (Currently in the bottom half)
Tottenham - We were absolutely embarrassed at home for the full match, by our former boss.
Newcastle - Went 1-0 down, familiar story, but actually is the only premier league game this season I say we comfortably were the better side in a game
Chelsea- But of an even game to be honest, cant remember many memorable moments apart from we could have given away a penalty, which I think most thought was one.
Arsenal - A bit like Chelsea, not a memorable game, second best to most things and another loss.
Everton - A decent win to a team who had just dipped in form after a great start. Another time we had to come from behind. Was the better side here but I wouldn't say dominant.
West Brom - Cant remember the game perfectly. Only managed a penalty goal, and from what I remember they had quite a few chances, hitting the bar.
Southampton - 2-0 down, could have been out of sight before a comeback and a last minute winner. Dreadful first half, good second half.
West Hame - 1-0 down at half time, could have been 3 or 4. Much like Southampton, a good second half masked a dreadful first half

We've scored 19 league goals this season, and according to the stats, Bruno has scored 7 and assisted 4 of these.
We're a Bruno injury away from being a team without a clue. I don't think Ole actually improves us.

I really can't agree with your assessment of the 4 bolded ones.

Chelsea game, if anything, we were the better side. We had a 1 v 1 saved and another top class save from Mata and one at the end of the game. If anything, we deserved a 1-0 win
Arsenal - I think it was a shit game but the 2 sides were equal. A draw would have been the apt result
West Brom - Sure they had chances, but we could have finished the game off much sooner had it not been for Johnstone. A Martial miss, Rashford missing from 5 yards out, the save from Maguire shot from the top of my head were all better chances than their shots, maybe except for the one that hit the post (which had it gone in would have been a worldie)
Southampton- We were comfortably the better side even in the first half even though the scoreline said something different. We had 2 piss easy chances that we didn't convert. Both of them much easier than the freekick which was a worlie. Corner was unlucky but something we need to improve on

Even West Ham - I'd say we were poorer, but definitely not 3-0/4-0 poorer. I'd say, we could have easily lost the game had we not had lady luck on our side, and couldn't complain if we dropped points as well, but we weren't that poor.

 

[FatherWolff]

On a side note why do people think Ole hasn't been backed well enough? Yes we missed out on certain targets but the reasons are quite sensible. Firstly with Haaland and Reguilon it's very acceptable we didn't sign them with the inclusion of a release clause. With Grealish and Sancho their priced were just too high. And with missing out on a CB last summer I didn't mind because we just finished the season as the 3rd best defense that had De Gea gifting goals.
We still have too many defenders in the team. And there wasn't any CB available last summer I thought can actually transform our defense unless we want to spend a fortune which is not happening after just spending 80m on Maguire

We missed out on Grealish and got VdB. For the the price and quality to play rotational AM could we have done better than that? I don't think so. We missed out on Reguilon and got Telles. Again, for the price and quality we got to provide competition for Shaw I don't think we could have done better. We missed out an Haaland and now have Cavani on a free. I understand we need a top class striker but after Haaland who else is there that's available for sensible money? We missed out on Sancho and got Diallo and Pellistri. I'd take those two anytime over Sarr or Brooks or whichever other underwhelming RWs were available

I'd say where we could have done better was last season where we should have gotten Bruno and a back up striker in the summer and not in January. And also the manner we handled last transfer window was embarrassing. But I think Ole has definitely gotten the players he liked

It’s not really about Ole and if he has been backed or not. You’d have to be blind as a bat not seeing we have a unbalanced squad. Did we address that? No, we didn’t. And if you want to blame Ole, woody or anyone. That is still the main problem and focus.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

It’s not really about Ole and if he has been backed or not. You’d have to be blind as a bat not seeing we have a unbalanced squad. Did we address that? No, we didn’t. And if you want to blame Ole, woody or anyone. That is still the main problem and focus.

You can't expect us to fix everything in one transfer window though. Last season there were lots of complaints about lack of squad depth. This season our bench is looking really solid.

 

[matt10000]

Well this handover is aslong as Trump not giving up the whitehouse. He needs to leave ASAP and give the job to someone more qualified for dealing with these Calibar of players. You see how he tried to disciple Fred for the red card by dropping him.

So amateurish. But he probably dig into his Fergie notes like he always does.

You say that we have one of the best squads in the league and that ole should leave asap.

So do you think Ole should take credit for the squad? yes or no?

 

[Kag]

West Ham is the first game I’ve actually been a bit worried about how we are playing. We had better players than the opposition and a genuinely good team out there on the pitch (no riff-raff like James and Lingard) and some of the players just weren’t (and aren’t) responding.

That said, I thought we were excellent for large parts of the PSG game.

Ole has done a great job with our squad; it’s coming along nicely, and we have good cover in most areas. We just need to keep them fit.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Another damn win. !!!!! Needs to walk and stop winning games I look so stupid on twitter !!!

 

[Mainoldo]

You say that we have one of the best squads in the league and that ole should leave asap.

So do you think Ole should take credit for the squad? yes or no?

Yeah he can build a team but he can’t coach it. Not really a good trait is it as he’s paid to be a coach. Maybe people are right. He should be DoF.

 

[crossy1686]

Yeah he can build a team but he can’t coach it. Not really a good trait is it as he’s paid to be a coach. Maybe people are right. He should be DoF.

 

[Random Task]

It’s not really about Ole and if he has been backed or not. You’d have to be blind as a bat not seeing we have a unbalanced squad. Did we address that? No, we didn’t. And if you want to blame Ole, woody or anyone. That is still the main problem and focus.

You say that, but there aren't many teams that can turn to high-quality players such as Rashford and Bruno to help change a game. Our squad is no weaker than anyone in the prem apart from Liverpool and City.

Spurs are sitting top of the league right now and their squad is certainly no deeper than ours in terms of ability.

 

[Tom Cato]

Do we all agree that we should be qualifying from our CL group? I mean a loss against RBL, would surely mean that we bottled it, right? Qualifying would rightfully show that Ole is doing a good job in CL, however a loss would certainly mean that we fooked it up magnificently.

Before the CL campaign started we had no actual expectation of going through, last years semi finalist and finalist is a though ask.

We did set ourselves into a position through incredible performances, and not going through now will be dissapointing.

Regardless of outcome, the team has performed extremely well in Europe this season.

 

[Random Task]

Before the CL campaign started we had no actual expectation of going through, last years semi finalist and finalist is a though ask.

We did set ourselves into a position through incredible performances, and not going through now will be dissapointing.

Regardless of outcome, the team has performed extremely well in Europe this season.

Failing to get out of the group after the start we made would go some way to voiding that statement, surely?

 

[Flexdegea]

Yeah he can build a team but he can’t coach it. Not really a good trait is it as he’s paid to be a coach. Maybe people are right. He should be DoF.

Wow............were do we start

 

[Tom Cato]

Failing to get out of the group after the start we made would go some way to voiding that statement, surely?

Why would it? We've har 3 great results in 3 games where we played very well, and one loss in which we also played incredibly well. Not moving on from the group doesnt nullify those performances.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

It looks like Ole is capable of building a team from scratch. If we add players like Haaland, Grealish and Sancho next summer we maybe on to something. Ole tried to sign 3 of them this summer. With our very good academy players coming up too.

Haaland will solve striker quality problem. Martial is not ready to lead the line. Grealish will complement Bruno especially if he is rested/injured.

This year target should still be Top 4 and good run in the CL at least last 8. If not Ole should be replaced in the summer.

That's basically 300 million worth of talent. That is on top of the 300 million we have already spent under Ole and we still have 200 million worth of players from previous manager. So Ole can create a squad from scratch if you give him 800 million.
Don't get me wrong Ole has done a decent job but it does sound funny when you consider the sums involved.

 

[Rossa]

Yeah he can build a team but he can’t coach it. Not really a good trait is it as he’s paid to be a coach. Maybe people are right. He should be DoF.

I wonder how upset you would be if/when Solskjær wins something with this team, or even worse (for you) wins or comes second in the league.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

I will still support Ole, but it's worrying we are so unpredictable and still can't defend. I think we are at the stage where it's make or break for him: Ole now needs to see a good run of results, in order to stamp his authority on the club. That first half yesterday was appalling, but we came good. We need to end this inconsistency and start challenging for trophies. Four consecutive league wins is more like it, but we always look fragile. A world class centre back would make a massive difference to this team. Ole needs to address that asap. Let's hope the league form can be sustained; it's vital for Ole that it is.

 

[Polar]

In game management is abysmal. Needs to go.

What a drama... Is this a contest in crisis maximisation?

I can’t se why his in game management is much worse then ex. Pep and other top-coaches we have beaten - who also have lost against teams on the lower end of the table.

Man Utd fans love to talk about “in game management”. The PSG match was a blunder, but his “in game management” has frankly been quit good (several second halfs with improved standards) The facts tell me that his preparations probably could improve.

People seems to hang up on trending words in this forum and repeat them until it becomes true, at least to blind fans.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Before the CL campaign started we had no actual expectation of going through, last years semi finalist and finalist is a though ask.

I expected us to finish above Leipzig. We have quite frankly a much much better squad.
I don’t think that’s even slightly debatable is it?

They lost their best forward to Chelsea and their biggest Summer signing to replace him was a 20m signing from Crystal Palace.

The previous season whilst we were spending into the hundreds of millions, they spent 76m. Harry fecking Maguire alone cost more than that. Their biggest signing again then was 20m.

Their best ever league finish is 3rd, in a weaker league than ours, and they’ve spent feck all money since then. So how does anyone dress that up to make Manchester United the underdogs?

So anyone not expecting us to go through is down to the management of both sides and what Nagelsmann has managed to coach into his side. Make no mistake, he’s done an absolutely incredible job & spent a shit load less money in a similar time frame to Ole in order to do it.

Damn right we should be going through, unless the opposition manager can get a much less talented group of players to beat United. You making us “underdogs” in the group is pretty damning of the management in direct comparison with Leipzig, you realise that right?

 

[Random Task]

Why would it? We've har 3 great results in 3 games where we played very well, and one loss in which we also played incredibly well. Not moving on from the group doesnt nullify those performances.

No, worse, it makes them completely irrelevant.

No one will remember the good performances nor care, only that we limped out of the CL at the group stages.

 

[Mainoldo]

I wonder how upset you would be if/when Solskjær wins something with this team, or even worse (for you) wins or comes second in the league.

If Manchester United won the league.. how upset would I be as a United fan?? Ummmm.

As upset as someone who doesn’t like Paul Pogba (the player) lifting the trophy.

It’s not a very smart question is it.

 

[Tarrou]

If Manchester United won the league.. how upset would I be as a United fan?? Ummmm.

As upset as someone who doesn’t like Paul Pogba (the player) lifting the trophy.

It’s not a very smart question is it.

I reckon you'd be loving when we won it but still staunchly Ole out until about three games to go

then after the celebrations died down you'd be willing to give him next season to prove himself

 

[Robaldo]

Ole strikes me as being the Doug Collins equivalent, before Phil Jackson arrives - my tedious attempt at a basketball reference.

I think it'll end with him being sacked; he's made us a likeable team with a lot going for us, but I think the next manager takes us up to the level we need.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

If we get knocked down to ELthen could that be enough to see Ole fired and us bring in a top coach that could fight for the league and EL?
Or will he stay to the point that all is lost even if we fail in CL?
What do people think even if you are in or out?

 

[Mainoldo]

I reckon you'd be loving when we won it but still staunchly Ole out until about three games to go

then after the celebrations died down you'd be willing to give him next season to prove himself

No I’d want him to retire gracefully

 

[dwd]

If we get knocked down to ELthen could that be enough to see Ole fired and us bring in a top coach that could fight for the league and EL?
Or will he stay to the point that all is lost even if we fail in CL?
What do people think even if you are in or out?

He will get the season no matter what happens Tuesday I reckon. The board only care about Top 4, once that’s unachievable the they may pull the trigger.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

That's basically 300 million worth of talent. That is on top of the 300 million we have already spent under Ole and we still have 200 million worth of players from previous manager. So Ole can create a squad from scratch if you give him 800 million.
Don't get me wrong Ole has done a decent job but it does sound funny when you consider the sums involved.

200m worth of players from previous manager? You mean 200m worth of damage from previous manager?

Every single Mourinho signings are getting sold and waiting to be replaced/sold one by one. Only Lindelof & Fred are the only ones being used regularly.

It’s not rocket science isn’t it. If the damage cost is 200m then it requires minimum the same amount or more to fix it.

 

[The Boy]

200m worth of players from previous manager? You mean 200m worth of damage from previous manager?

Every single Mourinho signings are getting sold and waiting to be replaced/sold one by one. Only Lindelof & Fred are the only ones being used regularly.

It’s not rocket science isn’t it. If the damage cost is 200m then it requires minimum the same amount or more to fix it.

It's worth comparing the line ups between Jose's last game (Liverpool 3 - United 1) and Ole's most recent game (West Ham 1 - Utd 3) to see how you progressed and changed given its been almost 2 years exactly.

December 2018

DDG
Darmian Lindelof Bailly Young
Matic Herrera
Dalot Lingard Rashford
Lukaku

Subs: Fellaini, Martial and Mata for Lingard, Herrera and Dalot
​

December 2020

Henderson
AWB Lindelof Maguire Telles
Pogba McT
Martial VDB Greenwood
Cavani

Subs: Rashford, Bruno and Mata for Cavani, VdB and Martial.
​

Only Lindelof started both matches!

 

[el3mel]

If we get knocked down to ELthen could that be enough to see Ole fired and us bring in a top coach that could fight for the league and EL?
Or will he stay to the point that all is lost even if we fail in CL?
What do people think even if you are in or out?

LVG got koed from group stage to EL and he stayed for the full season.

 

[lysglimt]

so firstly the good. Bruno has been brilliant. Clearly an Ole driven signing too. Board let him down by not getting it done in the previous summer. Telles is probably a backup option, but wasn’t expensive and brings something a bit different so that's ok.

Cavani on deadline day was a mess. if he really wanted him, sign him 2 months earlier. Pretty sure he had no intention of signing him or any other cf until sancho fell through.

then it falls into 2 buckets. Bucket 1: decent players who don’t seem to fit into how we perceive he wants to play: maguire, awb, dvb. They still improve us compared to some of the direness we've had, but they aren't great.
bucket 2: cheap young punts you can’t really blame (or praise?) him for. dan james looking like a poor one, but guys like pellistri may turn out.

There doesn’t seem to be any clear strategy with them. For the 200m odd he’s spent, you'd expect a team starting to form in his vision. There's also the matter of contract renewals which have impacted transfers. (though again, you probably can't blame him entirely) Matter of opinions though isn't it? Some might think Maguire and AWB are wonderfully suited, and that'd alter the overall opinion a lot. Diallo could become the next Messi or bruno could continue his numbers, and you'd again have a different outcome. But as it stands, I don't think he's done enough.

THAT SAID, he's done better than both LVG and Mourinho. The fact he's not been totally wasteful says something, and perhaps we simply lack the structure to properly support signing the players we want/need for our philosophy. So yea, maybe a bit harsh.

No manager gets all the signings correctly. Even Ferguson made a lot of weird transfers during his time. The problem with Mourinho and LvG signings were thet the majority of them flopped - and a lot of them dropped in value. I think we can agree that with the exception of Maguire - who we needed badly but was overpriced - none of our signings will drop in value. We will get our money back with vd Beek, Telles, James and AWB if we decide to sell them. Brunos value is probably doubled. Pellistri is starting to look really good, and Diallo looks exceptional - but these are young players so who knows what will happen.

 

[Water Melon]

Before the CL campaign started we had no actual expectation of going through, last years semi finalist and finalist is a though ask.

We did set ourselves into a position through incredible performances, and not going through now will be dissapointing.

Regardless of outcome, the team has performed extremely well in Europe this season.

No, not objective. RBL and PSG are not what we thought they were. Losing it on the last matchday would be a real bottlejob and would continue to show Ole's inability to prepare the team for something big. Last year we bottled it in 2 semis, going out at this stage would constitute a major collapse in CL. Taking into account the quality of our players, being knocked by Red Bull would show a huge difference between the 2 managers. Our squad should be able to get past this German team. There is no doubt about it.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

If we get knocked down to ELthen could that be enough to see Ole fired and us bring in a top coach that could fight for the league and EL?
Or will he stay to the point that all is lost even if we fail in CL?
What do people think even if you are in or out?

He'd still be given time but he'd be under pressure if we are struggling to make top 4.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

200m worth of players from previous manager? You mean 200m worth of damage from previous manager?

Every single Mourinho signings are getting sold and waiting to be replaced/sold one by one. Only Lindelof & Fred are the only ones being used regularly.

It’s not rocket science isn’t it. If the damage cost is 200m then it requires minimum the same amount or more to fix it.

Pogba, Fred, Matic and Lindelof are worth 200 million and still part of the squad. We also have Martial, Mata, Rashford, Shaw, and DDG from previous managers who are part of the squad. It's not a squad that is from scratch is the point.

Yes Ole has done a good job in getting rid of the deadwood and keeping them decent ones.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Pogba, Fred, Matic and Lindelof are worth 200 million and still part of the squad. We also have Martial, Mata, Rashford, Shaw, and DDG from previous managers who are part of the squad. It's not a squad that is from scratch is the point.

Yes Ole has done a good job in getting rid of the deadwood and keeping them decent ones.

Still part of the squad doesn’t mean they are not problem right? It’s not possible to get rid all deadwoods in 1 or 2 summer windows.

We spent 40m for DM that right now can’t run anymore and can’t play week in week out anymore and now people are asking for new DM.

We spent 89m for a midfielder who can’t stay fit anymore, doesn’t have identity about his best role, wanted to leave and gave him 290k p/w wages. Even Mourinho himself the guy who signed him fed up with him.

Pogba & Matic are part of the problem that Mourinho created from his recruitment. You can’t argue with that. It’s simple 200m worth problem needs minimum 200m to fix. I don’t know why are you making this like a rocket science.