He's finished his rebuild, its very simple, now we must build forward with someone else.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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He will lose his job but with these players it will make no difference.
We will not beat Everton, they need to bounce back also and have a manager that actually knows what he's doing. We should be telling Ole he's done some work but it's time to move on and get some points on the board before we're relegated.
I feel like crying. This is desperate.
The level of incompetence in the board will only be increased if they do not get rid.
I don't care about being a firing club, you don't just keep mediocre for the sake of morals. Get him out.
I don't care about being a firing club, you don't just keep mediocre for the sake of morals. Get him out.
Are there any genuine reasons for keeping ole at this point? He's a club legend and I wanted him to succeed but there has to be a better coach out there.
Go back to the first post I quoted from you - its clear you cherry picked Ole's tenure in your evaluation.the guy was stating his views on Ole's tenure not the entire picture. But hey I'm the one who cherry picks certain points to suit his agenda.
Also I've seen your posts after games. Have a good day; don't want my time wasted discussing things with you.
My post match posts have feck all to do with it, feel free to share some.
Completely agree that the board have to shoulder the blame, too. The transfer window and the way we acted bordered on farcical. We just need a complete re-think of where we're going as a club and what we're trying to do. It's clear mismanagement on a number of levels and it's painful to watch our games right now as we can barely create anything. How can a squad with our players struggle to do anything?!
Prefer someone with experience and a successful record... you know, not like Ole before we hired him
I feel you bro
Mathematically.
Horrible to see him floundering. We look like we're out of ideas don't we? Since the 4-2-3-1 with Bruno, Pogba and Matic triangle in midfield fell apart, he has thrown a lot at the wall hoping something will stick. We don't know which system to play and we don't seem to know what our best first eleven is.
There is. He was on monday night football the other day.
No one wants to lose dude. Especially not professionals with huge egos.
Not playing for a manager means either a) they don’t trust the manager or b) the manager is useless and does not know how to utilize them.
In fact, this is not bounded to football but to every profession.
at this point, sack Ole, the whole coaching staff and players. it’s always Ole who gets the criticism, well what about the players? Where is the spirit? Where is fighting for the shirt!! We have a bunch of cold blooded players who aren’t passionate enough to win
Out of interest, what is stopping you? The lack of available options? Don't fancy Poch?
I never did respond to you purposefully picking out a post of mine highlighting I said he should be sacked 6 games into the 2019/20 season.Trying to highlight my sheer stupidity I assume since I have always firmly remained Ole Out and you can’t see the wood for the trees.
I guess you felt pretty clever choosing to post this during our good run at the end of last season. This just highlights your short sightedness and total ineptitude when it comes to understanding what a well coached team looks like. Even that good run wasn’t going to change anything. It’s rinse repeat. We have a good run, then we are terrible. Consistently inconsistent. Not sustainable.
I haven’t changed my vote since September 2019, and never will. I remain firmly of the opinion that “this totally inept manager will never come good”. You can ridicule me all you want for holding this opinion, but by making an example of me simply because we had a short lived run of good form, is poor form from you. As has been highlighted by our current situation.
If your retort is going to be harping on about the Leipzig and PSG results, I wouldn’t bother. That only serves to demonstrate we are horrendously inconsistent and we won’t have any kind of success like this.
Edit: And would you look at this, posted during today’s match
. So you now agree we need a new manager? Despite haranguing me for saying we need to sack him? This is pure gold.
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Touche, brother.
Took us as far as he can. We need a manager that can coach, or at least bring a great coach with him.
No, I think we're at a point where there simply are no excuses.
I read after the first game against palace one journo said he had been told by a senior player how bland and basic the training was. All based around fitness and running.
Every now and then we look like a really really good team that can blow opposition away. And I think his recruitment has been quite good. Just seems to be lacking in the coaching and then there are the common games like that where we play it around the box for 90 minutes.
Yes that's the one, cheers.
It genuinely looks like the player's don't believe in his methods and starting to not give a feck. It's not right, but maybe they've simply had enough.
Everything smacks of being so basic.
Still back him, but it won't mean for much if we lose on Saturday. Think that's a do or die game for him.
Feel disappointed and a little ashamed to change my vote to sack. Really believed that Ole was building something positive but the start to the season has been a real kicker after the optimistic end to last season. The biggest issue is that we seem to run out of ideas all too often and there is no imagination in our attacking play. Very static, no vertical runs, no intensity in passing, always trying to play little one-twos at the edge of the box. I think Ole has the right vision for the club but he and the coaching staff are left wanting in the actual on-field coaching & tactics, especially against organized defenses.
My concern is that this will set us back another couple of years as I have no trust in the board's ability to appoint the right manager. We are stuck in an endless rut.
My concern is that this will set us back another couple of years as I have no trust in the board's ability to appoint the right manager. We are stuck in an endless rut.
He somehow always finds a result or sequence of results to keep him safe. Then we go around in circles again-and-again with the same scenario.
I hope to wake up tomorrow to the news of Ole gone
I genuinely believe our squad is much better now than it was pre Ole. However, he clearly is not the man to coach them! We’ve looked clueless how to break teams down for a very long time!
We'll get the right manager eventually. It took us a long time to get Sir Alex after Sir Matt. There were a lot of managers in between there. We just need to accept this and stop clinging to every single manager and hope they're the one even when evidence points to the contrary.
We desperately need some fresh ideas at this club, new manager, new coaching staff, a whole new approach, it's just beyond bleak at this point.
I don't think there's any chance of that. Maybe - and it's a big maybe - if we lose at Everton on Saturday, he may get the bullet. There seems to be feck all noise about him getting the sack.
Absolutely!
Our League form has been copied in the CL. Good against attacking teams, dreadful against defensive team who play on the counter. And of course, our uncanny tendency to squander chances to capitalise on favourable results.
Starting to feel less enthused about watching us play as it's so frustrating. We simply have to get a proper manager in for next season.
Starting to feel less enthused about watching us play as it's so frustrating. We simply have to get a proper manager in for next season.
I'm about to give up again. Although I've never had any belief he's gonna win us anything (as I've said all along he's just not a manager of this quality in my opinion), I've been trying my best to be hopeful that he's at least putting us on the right path for a future manager. But I think I'm officially Ole out again.
The one argument people use to defend Ole over and over and over and over again, is that the players are shit and no one could do anything with this dross. If we win it's a tactical master class, if we lose it's 100% the players fault. Every time.
But when the results and performances go from pub team to world class and back every match you have to start looking at the management. The quality of the players is there. They are NOT this bad. So you have to wonder if the PSG and RBL results are more fluke than this tactical masterclass some like to think.
I don't understand why he can't at least just stick to a regular back 5/6, so we at least have some stability from game to game. You don't see any other top European (or sub-top even) rotate this much and change formation/style every match. It's like he's playing Football Manager and saving and reloading to try different formations/tactics/players until something works. Except there's no save and reload in real life.
The one argument people use to defend Ole over and over and over and over again, is that the players are shit and no one could do anything with this dross. If we win it's a tactical master class, if we lose it's 100% the players fault. Every time.
But when the results and performances go from pub team to world class and back every match you have to start looking at the management. The quality of the players is there. They are NOT this bad. So you have to wonder if the PSG and RBL results are more fluke than this tactical masterclass some like to think.
I don't understand why he can't at least just stick to a regular back 5/6, so we at least have some stability from game to game. You don't see any other top European (or sub-top even) rotate this much and change formation/style every match. It's like he's playing Football Manager and saving and reloading to try different formations/tactics/players until something works. Except there's no save and reload in real life.
I seriously think pity is the only think stopping Ed from sacking Ole. I think he genuinely likes the guy and wants/wanted him to succeed here.
If Ancelloti is clever he is going to sit tight and not overly attack us. But then Ole might decide to sit tight too and then it will be Chelsea game all over again.
And this says it all. You people that are so staunchly Ole in really don't get it. This used to be us. Wenger In. Keep Roy At Pool. Emery In.
Still standing firm on the ground and saying we should keep going with Solskjaer. Keep going forward. Keep developing.
In Premier League, our results have not been what we hoped for but it is long season. We are not far away teams infront of us. In Champions League we are leading a tough group. One lost game doesn't change that we have started well in CL.
In Premier League, our results have not been what we hoped for but it is long season. We are not far away teams infront of us. In Champions League we are leading a tough group. One lost game doesn't change that we have started well in CL.
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