Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild


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Jose got sacked somewhat out of the blue, when most of us assumed Woody would hold off until CL qualification was no longer an option.

The board will have no choice but to pull the trigger if we perform like this for the next couple of weeks.

If we keep playing like this his situation should become totally untenable.
 
Ole needs to play Lindelöf, Tuanzebe and Fred if he wants to keep his job.
The defence is a total mess when Maguire, Matic, Pogba starts.
 
We’ll get battered by Everton.
It might be another totally embarrassing score line again.
They’re far to powerful physically, are in good form and after their recent loss, will be determined to get back to winning.
If Ole survives after that I’ll be amazed.
 
It's different from Moyes, LVG and Mourinho in that I bear no ill feeling towards Ole but at the same time it's clear he has to go. Rather than anger towards him I just feel pity as he is obviously a legend and loves the club but woefully out of his depth. The fact we can pull off some great results is not indication of Ole's greatness but instead evidence that the players are more than capable of doing far better than they are most of the time.

The players have to accept responsibility of course but at the end of the day it's the managers job to get the tactics right for every match, not just the bigger games. We are Man United, we should aspire to better than raising our game for the big teams and abject mediocrity for the rest. Time's up.
 
Again, it's not what I want. I personally think he's gotten too much time as it is. I never would have kept him on after his caretaker spell.

I just don't see anything concrete about him getting sacked. If it was near, I think there would be a-lot more noise about it. He should be under serious pressure as we've looked really poor this season, in general.

Not necessarily. I'd imagine Woodward was definitely watching that with Poch on his mind throughout. I genuinely hope he's gone tomorrow and it'd be a great decision too going into the Everton game.
 
:eek: How dare you look at the bigger picture?

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Probably :lol: I have been Ole out since the shambolic end of his first season and never changed my view as it's so obvious he shouldn't be anywhere near this role that is baffling how people still think he is the right man for the job :lol: Would gladly take another 1-6 if it it means Ole getting sacked.
 
Still won't happen. You only get sacked mid season at this club if you successful manage to turn the entire place toxic - like Mourinho. Everyone else has to wait until the end of the season (or mathematically can't make top 4)

Yea i said that a few days ago. Unless we are really bad they will probably wait till CL is not mathematically possible.
 
To play devils advocate...

Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.

The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
What is the best for club in a long run is only thing important. We all know the answer in this case but 9 of 10 fans will never admit that they want United to lose.
 
To play devils advocate...

Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.

The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.

In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
 
I love Ole just as much as the next United fan and I’ve been Ole in for quite some time, but since the end of last season and through to where we are now the football has just been absolutely awful.

100 games in now and there’s still no system or style of play apart from parking the bus and counter attacking against big teams.

Our coaching staff is a former United player who relegated Cardiff, a former U-18’s coach with no first team experience and another former United player again with no experience whatsoever at coaching at the highest level. How on earth this is acceptable for one of the biggest clubs in the world I will never know.

I think the fairytale needs to come to an end now and we need to appoint a young upcoming attacking coach with an actual system and style, of which there are plenty to choose from around Europe at the moment.
 
To play devils advocate...

Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.

The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
Yep, lose one battle to win the war. Lose one game now win many in the future, or win one game now and lose many in the future.
 
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.

In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
If we are no better by the end of NEXT season, then yes sack Poch.
 
We'll get the right manager eventually. It took us a long time to get Sir Alex after Sir Matt. There were a lot of managers in between there. We just need to accept this and stop clinging to every single manager and hope they're the one even when evidence points to the contrary.
We may eventually get it right but it will be pure coincidence. The decision makers have absolutely no clue when it comes to footballing matters. We will try to go with the obvious options like Poch who may turn out to be good but I don't think he is the right person for the job. The problem with a scatter gun approach to hiring managers is the redundancies that are created every time a new manager is appointed. Any new manager that comes in may decide that AWB, Maguire, Shaw or any other player is not suited to his system and we will have to wait for another 2-3 transfer windows when the team can be suited to his ideas. We are too inefficient in the transfer market for us to succeed with a manager merry-go-round approach.
 
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.

In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
Poch should have a fair crack at the whip. Ole has had two seasons and 4/5 transfer windows. Poch is a far superior manager to Ole.

If it doesn't work out, you know we can hire another manager after Poch? What's the alternative? Keeping Solskjaer because we are scared to take a chance at one of the most talented coaches in the world. Football has moved on. You can be successful despite changing your manager when needed.
 
Think how absurd that is though. We have 7 points and we are absolutely awful most games.

Not sacking him is yet another thing that highlights Ed and the Glazers incompetence

He has the easiest job in the world. Not only would any other guy lose his job he would probably get sued for his incompetence as well.
 
The players have lost faith in him i feel. Ok some players like Mata and Lingard should be out of the club already. But in general it looks like he has lost the players.

Not sure if Poch is the answer. Maybe someone can contradict me but i remember Spurs has having the press but not very good attacking play. Granted i did not watch them much. Maybe i am wrong though.
 
To play devils advocate...

Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.

The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.

He would definitely not get sacked now so I guess better to win.
 
I fear the writing is on the wall but they will not sack him for a good few months. I love what he has done with the squad but the coaching is nowhere good enough. We will continue to flip-flop under him.
 
Think how absurd that is though. We have 7 points and we are absolutely awful most games.

Not sacking him is yet another thing that highlights Ed and the Glazers incompetence

I mean that's their main incompetence over the last 7 years. That they wait way too long to sack managers.
 
I'm genuinely curious, does anyone really believe he's good enough to be here and will ever be a success? Putting all sentimentality aside, like does anyone really believe he has what it takes to challenge for top honours?

The big troll isn't eligible to respond to this.
 
We may eventually get it right but it will be pure coincidence. The decision makers have absolutely no clue when it comes to footballing matters. We will try to go with the obvious options like Poch who may turn out to be good but I don't think he is the right person for the job. The problem with a scatter gun approach to hiring managers is the redundancies that are created every time a new manager is appointed. Any new manager that comes in may decide that AWB, Maguire, Shaw or any other player is not suited to his system and we will have to wait for another 2-3 transfer windows when the team can be suited to his ideas. We are too inefficient in the transfer market for us to succeed with a manager merry-go-round approach.

You aren't wrong, but, the decision makers and the owners aren't going anywhere anytime soon. The only hope we can have is that we end up stumbling onto the right manager. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
 
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.

In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?

Well obviously Ole has had nearly 24 months so Poch should be afforded the same time and resources. In a hypothetical land of course.
 
Not necessarily. I'd imagine Woodward was definitely watching that with Poch on his mind throughout. I genuinely hope he's gone tomorrow and it'd be a great decision too going into the Everton game.

Totally agree he must now depart ASAP ... Ole who is not considered an Elite Coach snd therefore does not deserve more time he had to win the FA Cup or Europa League to go with CL qualification, to lose one semi final is unlucky, two incompetent, three tactically inept so thank you Ole you’ve built a much better squad but now we need an Elite Coach to make those players better and perform to their potential, this season first 11 games in all comps, 6 wins 1 draw 4 defeats is not a disaster but 1 point in 12 at home is untenable in the premier league for Man United
We must make the change ASAP and stop being the topic of pathetic jokes about our coach who will always bleed red unfortunately, however he will never be an Elite Coach !!
 
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.

In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?

Not at the end of the season but yeah, if he’s still crap after a fair crack of the whip... sack.
That’s what most top clubs do till they land on a winner, we just wait, hope and pray our managers will eventually turn it around, cause “”Fergie”.
 
The last two weeks sums up Ole's reign, pull off some unexpected wins as plucky underdogs and then live off that for weeks despite several poor performances.

It is very likely that we will beat Everton and the cycle will continue. Really feel for Ole since he has done a lot of good things and was not backed by the owners this summer but also feel that perhaps time is right to part ways.
 
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