A 22 year old for a 30 year old. No.
Wot, no transfers?
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We haven't been realistic contenders for any of that in 5 years.
There isn't a single player that we could sign tomorrow that would turn us into UCL contenders. Sevilla who didn't even qualify for this season's competition showed us our true level last season.
Because of a lack of signings, which was exactly my point. You said top 4 should be United's aim and they should focus on that rather than transfers. I believe United can win the league with a little more focus on signings rather than saving money.
Whole Europe was never going to agree to this because they start the league at different points.
We have spent millions over the last few years and clubs that have spent less than us have done better than us.
It's just that we have wasted that money.
Signings signings signings. I suspect Woodward and the board are telling Mourinho he’s got to work with the players they’ve already invested in and capitalise on them before any more signings. There is so much untapped potential in guys like Shaw, Bailly, Martial, Rashford, Pogba and Lukaku. Mourinho should be stopped from spending any more until he’s created a team out of these players and got the best out of them.
I'd argue only City have done better than us in recent years, and they've outspent United each year for the last decade.
There have been 26 signings since Ferguson left the club. Not counting the players back on loan or those from youth level.
So, no, I don't think you could say we didn't focus on signings and went for money saving. There is a stronger case to be made that we wanted a short-cut every time thinking the only answer is the money. Improve what you have and build a coherent transfer strategy.
I agree about the coherent strategy, but part of that is focusing on signings and selling the deadwood we currently have. Just because we've bought a few players in the past doesn't mean we weren't focused on the financials. On too many occasions our signings have been the cheaper version of a better quality player. We need to just do what's required to get back to the top, and this means spending big on quality players. Lukaku, Pogba and Matic were a good start. But this must continue to ensure long-term success.
What if - we are leaving player announcements until as late as possible, just so that City have no time to counter?
Some BIG signings that make all the difference. When I look back to the past few summers, the Pogba and Lukaku signings came completely out of the blue.
Crazy I know, but one can hope...
Some BIG signings that make all the difference. When I look back to the past few summers, the Pogba and Lukaku signings came completely out of the blue.
Crazy I know, but one can hope...
I don't think we were focused much on the financial side of things. You could probably say that about this window, but in the previous ones, we broke our own transfer record multiple times and currently among top 5 record British transfers you have 3 United players (Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria).
The changing of the transfer strategy which is the product of giving that strategy solely to the managers who have a different approach to the game is our biggest problem. I agree with you that we definitely need to spend, but the bigger problem is the way we have been spending it so far.
I also think we went too many times paying premium prices for lesser quality players than the opposite like you say. Which player in this team you could put under the label "bargain". Which player transfer value has grown since he came to the club?
City rightfully wouldn't give a tiny shite about what we do in the transfer market, maybe if we signed Messi, they'd be bothered.
You must be joking ...
Nah, it’s always about United where City are concerned. They are like the mouse that roared. Take the Tevez signing and the ‘Welcome to Manchester’ nonsense.
I know and that why it shouldn’t have been agreed by English clubs.
All the clubs are being held to ransom and that is why there is no movement in the market.
Nice Theory would be class if they did play it like this unfortunately I don't think so . Pogba didn't come out of the blue it was talked about for months on here . here's hoping
Correct, and, sadly, I cannot imagine any scenario where Messi would even consider us.
Come on now...
The Pogba saga lasted a few weeks from what I recall, Lukaku I agree was quick and surprising considering we from what it seemed had Morata one foot through the door
Satisfied with your transfer window so far, then?
What's the relevance of this question to the post I replied to?
PS. If you want to post your question in the Spurs thread, I'll be happy to reply.
The last two summers have been good. That's actually been reflected in some silverware and a much improved league finish.
I can't understand this year for the life of me. We are supposed to be one of the richest club in the world, but we are not proactive in the market. The holes in our squad are so obvious, and we're not far off. We needed a great window and we've had a shit one. For the first time, even the players were linked with are uninspiring.
Feels like we've thrown out season away before it's even started.
I can't understand this year for the life of me. We are supposed to be one of the richest club in the world, but we are not proactive in the market. The holes in our squad are so obvious, and we're not far off. We needed a great window and we've had a shit one. For the first time, even the players were linked with are uninspiring.
Feels like we've thrown out season away before it's even started.
This is the "Wot, no transfers?" thread. Spurs have no transfers, so I would have thought this exactly the place to ask that question.
I'll let your own words from this very thread tell you why thats a stupid idea..
All we need is one top CB and one decent LB for us to effortlessly switch to a 352. There are still 10 days left and I'm hoping atleast one of these is done.
Half true. If any English club is after a target highly sought by a foreign club, surely the foreign club can't jus cross it's arms and see if the English club will complete the signing. Hence they must be aware of all moves made by EPL clubs, and what's worse for them: as the window is close to shutting and EPL clubs start throwing bags of money around, it's really hard for a foreign club to stop the deal.
I think the EPL clubs can sign just about anyone they want who doesn't already play for Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. While it sucks to see the foreign teams doing trade in that extended period and making the signings English clubs failed to secure, I don't think it's that big a disavantage to the EPL as some posts made out to be.
Exactly. Since Fergie we havent bought the right quality in overall. In fact the best consistant player we had got since Fergie was a free. Ibra.
Leicester and Chelsea would have something to say about that
Morata, Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Batshuayi, Barkley...
My memory of the Pogba signing was that it was a saga that lasted for ages.
I have a suspicion that the Board is holding back the purse strings because they may need it for the next manager next season.
Jose usually leaves after the 3rd year, a stereotype reinforced by the fact that he is in his 3rd year of living in a Manchester hotel room. So you need a hundred million quid in the bank at least for the next manager.
Jose usually leaves after the 3rd year, a stereotype reinforced by the fact that he is in his 3rd year of living in a Manchester hotel room. So you need a hundred million quid in the bank at least for the next manager.
Because signing players now and strengthening the team won't make the life of the next manager easier ?
Pogba came out the blue? Was a certainty for weeks before being announced. Never has there been a more tedious saga.
If you insist, I'll answer your question (although you didn't answer mine):
Firstly, I don't consider the transfer window to be race as to which clubs sign the most new players, or the most new players the quickest. Lots of new signings does not necessarily mean lots of improvement.
Second, continuity is usually under-rated, especially by transfer muppets who tend to make their league predictions based in large measure on new signings. Spurs already have a fairly stable, established and good quality squad, in which the team spirit is generally good. So to a large extent, IMO, we don't need lots of new players.
Third, 1 or 2 of any additional players that we might need can - and probably will - come from our youth ranks, (just as Harry Winks has) … perhaps Luke Amos or Oliver Skipp.
Third, the window is not yet closed, and personally I'm not that bothered whether we sign a new player tomorrow, the day after tomorrow or on deadline day.
I do think we need to sign a CM plus (ideally, but less importantly) someone in Martial/Zaha mould - whether we will or not remains to be seen. Anything else might depend on which players (if any) we sell.
Who? Is that a real person?
Of course. He played - and did well - against Barca in our friendly the other day.
They have lots of players who have names out of a Dickens novel.
I'll have to YouTube him - the name sounds so random almost fictional
All new managers want to bring in a couple of their own at the start of their new campaign - even Chelski's managers.
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