Yes, and this is down to reigning in all the melt-down volume and because now people are being noticed because they are redressing the balance. I think the main thing is that people just want others to be honest in the sense that allot of people who come up with all sorts of non-football related or personal attacks on Jose just don't come out and say "You know what, I don't like him and I want to have moan" rather than coming up with all sorts of nonsense or ad-hominem attacks. They know they can't just say that without looking foolish so they just try and machine gun threads with emotional nonsense. This actually not only drags the place down and pishes people off but it also drowns out any serious analysis or voices of reason on either side of the spectrum.
Wot, no transfers?
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Yes, and this is down to reigning in all the melt-down volume and because now people are being noticed because they are redressing the balance. I think the main thing is that people just want others to be honest in the sense that allot of people who come up with all sorts of non-football related or personal attacks on Jose just don't come out and say "You know what, I don't like him and I want to have moan" rather than coming up with all sorts of nonsense or ad-hominem attacks. They know they can't just say that without looking foolish so they just try and machine gun threads with emotional nonsense. This actually not only drags the place down and pishes people off but it also drowns out any serious analysis or voices of reason on either side of the spectrum.
You actually think people give that much of a crap about what people on the internet think?
We're just bored of shifting through all the same shite. You can have a page of people saying the exact same thing, why they feel the need to repeat i have no idea.
So we need a right wing. Swapping Mkhi instead of money turned out to be a bad transfer. Love to see Alexis doing what he can though. I don't think we will sign any now. Time to move on from transfer window entertainment?
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Only seen the top 2 of those play, none of which is a significant improvement on Young. I think we're unfair to him to be honest. His crossing is sublime and work rate among the best in the squad. I'd take Rose for 10, that's how "much" I think he's better than Young.
This place would have you believe Mourinho needs eleven £50 million + signings and even more of them sat on the bench. Zero regard for development of existing players like Shaw, Martial and Rashford et al.
Sadly some on here are so warped from Football Manager and the like that they won't except anything but our lineup being full of overpriced superstars.
Here, here.
I wouldn't feel proud at all winning the CL with 75 (let alone 50) percent new XI for the season (or last three).
Think that's been my issue the last few years, so much of the team hasn't felt like Utd players, haven't warmed to them, they just don't feel like they belong? I suppose I prefer watching a team grow together.
Agreed. There's a few in the squad but not many. De Gea and Lingard - quickly warming to Big Rom.
I've wanted to warm to some players, I really have, but it's super hard when they never really produce on a consistent basis or to a high enough level. I swear when Phil Jones joined I would have been his number one fan on this forum. Wanted to warm to him so much, but there comes a point when it's hard to. Heading in that direction with Luke Shaw.
My heart is now set on Fred and Periera (and Slabhead if he joins).
The one common denominator regarding the shambles the club finds itself each offseason is Woodward, either he tries to bargain every transfer or appears to be somewhere other than in the picture. Hello Wimbldon or RWC
Not sure how we can blame Jose for not selling players, at the end of the day thats a board and CEO decision what to accept, that's Why keep extending player contracts to extract transfer fees, not to retain them for real playing purposes, and here we are.
Any club manager would be ticked off after providing names to strengthen the side, and watching while their rivals get a move on and actually look stronger for the upcoming season. There needs to some realism as to real value for our squad players, accept what they are worth and move on. Balance sheet strategies are fine, but if we keep hanging on to LVG and Moyes drafted signings , it won't be a pretty 2019.
Not sure how we can blame Jose for not selling players, at the end of the day thats a board and CEO decision what to accept, that's Why keep extending player contracts to extract transfer fees, not to retain them for real playing purposes, and here we are.
Any club manager would be ticked off after providing names to strengthen the side, and watching while their rivals get a move on and actually look stronger for the upcoming season. There needs to some realism as to real value for our squad players, accept what they are worth and move on. Balance sheet strategies are fine, but if we keep hanging on to LVG and Moyes drafted signings , it won't be a pretty 2019.
Also a bit worrying that we have to go so deep down in the pecking order thenBecause Maguire was not a real target for Jose or the scouts. IMO, if he was even on the radar it was well down the order. If he was a true target, he'd have been rumoured at the beginning of the window. This is complete panic by woodward and the club. Panic got us fellaini on the deadline, this time it seems like the panic just occured a few days earlier.
Duncan Castles said on a podcast that Jose cannot understand wtf woodward has been doing since Fred, now we know. Dithering and panic.
Young is better than all of them, bar maybe Sandro.
I agree that Young is very underrated. His biggest issue is that our right flank is non-existent as an attacking threat, out left-sided attackers all want to play as inside lefts and cut in, and Young also would naturally cut inside. His right-footedness exasperates the fact we would have no natural wide players wanting to make their natural wing their own, yet in fairness to Young he stretches the left flank far more than Valencia does the right.
I’ve said several times that I’d rather see Shaw start the season and Young come in at right back. It’s the right flank that i am far more concerned about as Valencia offers nothing in games where we want to be proactive and take the game to the opposition.
Why the hell did United's official account troll us all last week with that Zlatan video? Are they really that out of touch with our current mood that they thought tweeting that was a good idea?
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nagers-transfer-frustrations?CMP=share_btn_tw
So WTF ARE THE CLUB DOING??
1. We have a bucket of cash
2. We don't need to sell Shaw to buy Sandro (example), we don't need to sell Rojo to get Maguire/Toby (example).
So why are we so close to the shut of the window with 2 prospect signings, a throw away goal keeper and looking to bring in over-hyped english talent?
WTF are you doing woodward?
There's too many contradictions in the media to really believe any of it, so many people going with different angles, it's silly.
When all the top reds said United were just waiting for the WC to end before sorting out their squad I guess they meant selling Daley Blind. Because nothing else has happened.
I blame this jinxy thread for our sh*t window.
and Leicester sources are claiming even Maguire is likely not to happen as they can't replace his "talent" in time. So whose this one transfer? Some u/21 french kid?
Have to marvel at the human psyche's penchant for being miserable:
- Club message hints at an ace up the sleeve.
- Twitter troll posts fake quotes and papers continue to cast a shadow on all things United
It's a shame the good-spirited rumor from an official club source is forgotten quickly and the fabricated stuff creates a meltdown
I assume that Ibra will be joining our coaching team, sometime in the future?
The people who were using the WC as an excuse have gone all quiet, now.
I said a while back that the WC should not be a cause not to sign or line up players for purchase. Most players would be happy to discuss their futures, during the WC, if it means that they will changing clubs and getting a pay rise.
Just because they are at the WC, does not mean that they have been locked into a prison, unable to do anything other than think or talk about the WC.
In any case, 2 more days have passed and no new signings.
And I think Jose has resigned himself to not winning the league this Summer, as this squad just is not capable of winning the league.
I think the owners are gearing up for a fight for 4th place and I for one, am not happy.
The people who were using the WC as an excuse have gone all quiet, now.
I said a while back that the WC should not be a cause not to sign or line up players for purchase. Most players would be happy to discuss their futures, during the WC, if it means that they will changing clubs and getting a pay rise.
Just because they are at the WC, does not mean that they have been locked into a prison, unable to do anything other than think or talk about the WC.
In any case, 2 more days have passed and no new signings.
And I think Jose has resigned himself to not winning the league this Summer, as this squad just is not capable of winning the league.
I think the owners are gearing up for a fight for 4th place and I for one, am not happy.
Then how come no one else does deals during the WC? You've literally just made that all up.
I only just realised the transfer window closes in 10 days time
Watch this space.
The people who were using the WC as an excuse have gone all quiet, now.
I said a while back that the WC should not be a cause not to sign or line up players for purchase. Most players would be happy to discuss their futures, during the WC, if it means that they will changing clubs and getting a pay rise.
Just because they are at the WC, does not mean that they have been locked into a prison, unable to do anything other than think or talk about the WC.
In any case, 2 more days have passed and no new signings.
And I think Jose has resigned himself to not winning the league this Summer, as this squad just is not capable of winning the league.
I think the owners are gearing up for a fight for 4th place and I for one, am not happy.
That was a presumption, not an excuse, almost no business was going on during the WC. That was the point of starting this thread in the first place.
Boring isn't it?
I know the World Cup's on but hardly any transfer activity is, apparently, going on.
I guess the bullshitters in the press can get their clicks from actual stories about football for a change, instead of having to make stuff up all the time.
This is going to be a frantic transfer window between 16 July and 9 August, I can't wait
I only just realised the transfer window closes in 10 days time
Yep and the season starts next Friday.
I wasn’t expecting the club to go out and buy players that would win us the league this season, the gulf between ourselves and City is just too big.
What I was expecting was that we would resolve long standing issues in the team like both full back positions and the RW in order to start closing the gap but that is yet to happen and even if does it might only be short term solutions before we have to start again.
Hard to know what the aim, who is at fault or what is going on but between them the board and the manager need to do something not just for this season but for next summer as well because these problems aren’t just going to go away.
What I was expecting was that we would resolve long standing issues in the team like both full back positions and the RW in order to start closing the gap but that is yet to happen and even if does it might only be short term solutions before we have to start again.
Hard to know what the aim, who is at fault or what is going on but between them the board and the manager need to do something not just for this season but for next summer as well because these problems aren’t just going to go away.
Its puzzling that our full back and RW situation has persisted for so long.
Its like under SAF when we let the midfield rot for years, except we were actually winning things then.
I dont expect us to challenge seriously in the champs league at this point but we really should be giving City a run for their money in the league and right now we arent set up to do that so it appears the Glazers and Woodward are satisfied with a top 4 finish.
I cannot imagine Jose would be too happy with the current state of affairs at all.
Young's crossing isn't sublime. He's able to pull off the long deep angled cross to the far post on a fairly consistent basis, but aside from that his overall contribution in attack leaves a lot to be desired. He compares favourably to Shaw, Valencia and innumerable other shite or average fullbacks but we should be aiming for a higher class of player than that.
Workrate, yeah, I'll give you that one.
Its true things arent as bad as some posters make it out to be, but we arent set up to win the league this season and that is frustrating, especially seeing what City did last season and how Liverpool are reinforcing for this season.
Top 4 shouldnt be our primary aim...thats the Arsenal mentality.
This is the biggest thing to me really. They look like they're preparing squads for a title challenge. Us, Arsenal and Chelsea are just hoping to get by. It's sad.
Add Tottenham to that mix. 2nd season in a row with no notable transfers? I mean the core of their team is good but it seems to send a rather weird message to their top players if you are not looking into making the team a real title challenger. Same might btw count for us and our most ambitious players who in part came here to win the league and/or maybe a CL trophy.
Perhaps the LVG and Moyes eras made me feel less spoiled and oddly more patient but I'm not getting worried until we have a day left on the window and still haven't signed anyone else. I'm still positive we ll surprise in the market. Dybala is coming baby!
Board are happy to scrape top 4.
A week left?
This seems like a big issue for people who aren't happy with how your window has gone. I wonder if it would impact how the mood is if we'd not been very active this summer?
Well, on the bright side only Liverpool and City have been improved. Top 3 is within our reach if Jose keep his shit together.
FFS we're turning into Arsenal, happy with 4 while playing pointless football
FFS we're turning into Arsenal, happy with 4 while playing pointless football
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Reading through this board, you would think we finished 6th last year. We had a good squad last year that performed very well against the top 6. People really need to relax and focus on some of the positives coming into this season. Do we have enough to over-take Man-City, probably not this year, but many of our players had great World Cups, so hoping that the players we counted on last year can learn from that success and take another step forward.
True but they're funding their new stadium so it's more understandable.
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