Wot, no transfers?

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beingshe7don said:
If the players aren’t willing to join, we have a real big problem. Either way, the club hasn’t progressed much. Jose had this 12 min speech of how city were better than us and how they have recruited so many people last season. And it seems like he’s gonna recycle the same speech for the upcoming season. Everyone knew the World Cup was taking place, it was Jose and Ed’s duty to get the deals done in advance. Jose did indicate that he provided the list 6 weeks before the season ended.
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That goes back to the same dilemma, new managers have came in and players have left and as such players we are after are holding out to see what happens at their own club before making any decisions. Every manager will have drawn up a shortlist weeks in advance of the World cup but it isnt as simple as getting it done before it starts. How many players have Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG, City brought in so far? Not many, Real Madrid have sold Ronaldo and have known he is leaving for a while now and they havent got an instant replacement signed yet.

United may have to wait to trim the squad size down before bringing in new players. Blind and Darmian leaving should free spaces and funds. With the World cup finishing today, players will go on holiday and have a think about their future before making life changing decisions. There is still weeks left in the transfer window so lets wait and see what happens before panic sets in.
 
This has to be the most boring transfer window in the last 5-6 years. Apart from the blockbuster Ronaldo deal, nothing else has happened at all. Things will likely pick up now after the World Cup.
 
Hwhy does t seem that our transfer dealings early in the window are much about Woody showing what a great negotiator he is. Still find it difficult to ünderstand why when we want a player and the release fee is known, we seem to spend far too long haggling over £5 to £10 million, yez it's not my money but in the big scheme of Utd revenue, it's also small bikkies.
Get it done , then the selling club has time to be in the market, too many times we seem to left behind and scrambling in the last week of the window.
 
We've made 4 signings and that's it, final.

1) Dalot, promising young RB. Can learn from Valencia.

2) Fred, CM. Perfect signing to enhance our midfield.

3) Lee Grant. Backup keeper. Romero has been injured so an important reinforcement in case anything happens to DDG.

4) Fellaini, CM, 10, striker. We had assumed he was off so this is like a new signing. Given his versatility, he's like 2 new signings actually. So one could argue that we've made 5 signings.

Can't see us doing any more business, especially under the 5 signing hypothesis.
 
breakout67 said:
You might not be the brightest of the bunch. The world Cup is a minimum of 2 weeks for every player involved, and going by the fact that no player wants to deal with transfer related stuff with agents and managers during the time it delays transfers by that amount or more. Then you have to add that we are definitely interested in Alderweireld and Mandzukic who were part of those 4 countries.

Chelsea have just signed Joringho after a few weeks of work who wasn't even at the world cup. Now add 2-3 weeks to that for players at the world cup. Any world cup player signings announced in the last week were not done after they left the competition, they were already ready to be finalised and done so once the player finished with the world cup.
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Chelsea are not a good example as they had to deal with their manager situation first which got finalised not long ago. Your post would make sense if Mandzukic and Alderwhat are our only signings left. If we end up not signing those two does it mean the club just spent the whole period just enjoying the games doing nothing?
 
Fridge chutney said:
We've made 4 signings and that's it, final.

1) Dalot, promising young RB. Can learn from Valencia.

2) Fred, CM. Perfect signing to enhance our midfield.

3) Lee Grant. Backup keeper. Romero has been injured so an important reinforcement in case anything happens to DDG.

4) Fellaini, CM, 10, striker. We had assumed he was off so this is like a new signing. Given his versatility, he's like 2 new signings actually. So one could argue that we've made 5 signings.

Can't see us doing any more business, especially under the 5 signing hypothesis.
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If that's really it Jose might as well hand in his resignation now.
 
breakout67 said:
Its a reference to how transfers are being done this season. Obviously every club has been a bit slow due to the world cup.
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Which made the decision to close the transfer window early this season a bit silly. A non-tournament year might have been more sensible. Wonder which chairman or manager will be the first to moan.
 
Think we've chosen some tricky to acquire targets like Willian and Alderweid. Didn't expect Chelsea to buy/sell till the new manager came in and Levy is Levy. We could end up in a panic to find alternate targets if our first choices fail. Have nothing to base this on besides the obvious that Jose isn't going into the new season without new acquisitions
 
Its still early days but I somehow wonder if the manager has the full backing of the chairman at this point. Clubs tend to tighten the belt when they don't believe the manager will be staying for long.
 
Why are you so desperate for new signings? To keep illusion that Mourinho can bring the result because of individual skills of his players? Better to spend money for modern manager and with appropriate football management.
I'm also not afraid to fall out of top 4. What is the point to play in CL if your manager making maximum effort to be eliminated by Sevilla and after that he is trolling the club champions league history?
 
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Fridge chutney said:
We've made 4 signings and that's it, final.

1) Dalot, promising young RB. Can learn from Valencia.
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Hope he doesn't.

Fridge chutney said:
2) Fred, CM. Perfect signing to enhance our midfield.

3) Lee Grant. Backup keeper. Romero has been injured so an important reinforcement in case anything happens to DDG.

4) Fellaini, CM, 10, striker. We had assumed he was off so this is like a new signing. Given his versatility, he's like 2 new signings actually. So one could argue that we've made 5 signings.

Can't see us doing any more business, especially under the 5 signing hypothesis.
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Has to be tongue in cheek ! :lol:
 
I think we are signing one more player, likely either Toby or Sandro. Both unsettled, both looking to get out. I think if we get one of those two, jose will publicly state the window is finished.

With the time remaining, the lack of credible rumours, I don't see our RW being fixed. When was the last time a "tier 1" journo gave us any hopeful news about transfers?

I think toby is the most likely to leave as he seems quite unsettled and spurs have to deal with his price before the contract dips, but Sandro is probably easier to negotiate for if levy kicks up a stink for no reason other than it's MUFC trying to buy him.


Sounds depressing but is anyone really expecting 2x 50+ million transfers to happen in Defence and anything upto 100m for a rw to happen in the time remaining....especially with a severe lack of rumours?
 
breakout67 said:
It also throws a spanner in the works that the plonks at the FA decided to change the transfer window date in a world cup year. I wouldn't be surprised if a few clubs get screwed over because of it or have to pay more to push things through.
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Nothing to do with the FA, the FA and PL are different entities. All the PL clubs voted on whether to change the deadline, the majority voted to change it, that’s democracy for you. Utd did not vote in favour of changing the deadline.

It would make perfect sense to change the deadline, as it’s an utter farce when players can play up to 4 matches of a season before being transferred. Unfortunately when the rest of Europe has an extended deadline, it does it counterproductive to close outs early.
 
Fridge chutney said:
Pretty sure we've concluded our business.
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Based on what exactly?

Jose isn’t daft, nor are the Board. They know we need far more if we’re going to challenge for the big trophies.

Once the WC is done, the merry go round will get moving.
 
WPMUFC said:
3 1/2 weeks till the window closes. Fingers crossed that the "tier 1" journos start focusing on us next week.
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What does this mean? Who cares what the journalists write about - I certainly don’t, 90% (at a guess) of what they write is complete rubbish. It’s better just to wait and see who the Club announce. Too much stress on this forum.
 
Nickthepip said:
Based on what exactly?

Jose isn’t daft, nor are the Board. They know we need far more if we’re going to challenge for the big trophies.

Once the WC is done, the merry go round will get moving.
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I belive selling fringe players was part of the plan for this window. Imho the likes of Darmian, Blind and others were made avaiable but no suitors is holiding us back. Also i think that Jose and co have a list of targets for each postion and if those are not avaiable they wont buy for the sake of buying. Thirdly i dont belive the board will sanction big money moves for players aged 30 and above and some (if not most) rumored transfers concenr such players (Bonucci, Willian, Perisic).
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
What does this mean? Who cares what the journalists write about - I certainly don’t, 90% (at a guess) of what they write is complete rubbish. It’s better just to wait and see who the Club announce. Too much stress on this forum.
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So on a subforum about transfer speculation, you don't want discussion about the rumours?

Tier 1 sources are Di Marzio and his clique, the BBC and Craig Norwood. It's a very good sign if Di Marzio and BBC start reporting news and if Craig Norwood confirms it, the deal is done.

With the window closing 9th AUG, it would be a good sign for us if the likes of the BBC start reporting on a possible transfer for us starting next week.

I can only suggest if you don't like the transfer speculation, wait for the announcement, then come back to these threads.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Nothing to do with the FA, the FA and PL are different entities. All the PL clubs voted on whether to change the deadline, the majority voted to change it, that’s democracy for you. Utd did not vote in favour of changing the deadline.

It would make perfect sense to change the deadline, as it’s an utter farce when players can play up to 4 matches of a season before being transferred. Unfortunately when the rest of Europe has an extended deadline, it does it counterproductive to close outs early.
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Ok so the PL decided, and United and City voted against it because they are the ones that actually need more time to do big transfers. It makes ZERO sense to do it in a world cup year and perfect sense to do it in a non world cup year. The first year of a transfer window like this will always have some kinks and makes it even more difficult with the world cup.
 
WPMUFC said:
So on a subforum about transfer speculation, you don't want discussion about the rumours?

Tier 1 sources are Di Marzio and his clique, the BBC and Craig Norwood. It's a very good sign if Di Marzio and BBC start reporting news and if Craig Norwood confirms it, the deal is done.

With the window closing 9th AUG, it would be a good sign for us if the likes of the BBC start reporting on a possible transfer for us starting next week.

I can only suggest if you don't like the transfer speculation, wait for the announcement, then come back to these threads.
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The BBC only report on a transfer when it’s effectively done, that’s not transfer speculation, it’s reporting.

It’s not that I don’t enjoy a bit of speculation. But the OTT reaction on here is what I don’t enjoy. I also don’t understand the obsession with tiers throughout the forum. See also ceilings, and bottle jobs etc.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
The BBC only report on a transfer when it’s effectively done, that’s not transfer speculation, it’s reporting.

It’s not that I don’t enjoy a bit of speculation. But the OTT reaction on here is what I don’t enjoy. I also don’t understand the obsession with tiers throughout the forum. See also ceilings, and bottle jobs etc.
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IMO the tiers help separate journos with good info from those seeking clicks. If people know Di Marzio is a tier 1 outlet and Ducker is tier 2, Sky tier 3 etc etc it helps to place the discussion in a more reality based setting.

If the BBC reported talks with neymar, we could have a much better discussion about that than say goal.com reporting the same story which would almost certainly be BS.

BBC report almost done deals on their site, however their journos are much more open on twitter to rumours they hear.
 
I'm looking forward to Jose's press conference during pre-season friendlies so he can give a hint about a possible signing.
 
I’m slowly coming around to the fact why United do what they do, in regards to transfers. It’s good for the club for fans to over react. It’s good for the fans to have near nervous breakdowns. It keeps the club relevant. People will go on search engines, social media, discussions down the pub etc etc. The more “clicks” etc our name is involved in, it makes the club more appealing.

It used to be annoying to see the United fans having meltdowns but it’s more enjoyable now. It’s amazing to think that fans know more than the no1 football club in the world. Know more than a manager who has literally won every domestic title.

Going back to transfers, the club will know what they want to do. If they can’t get their targets, they shouldn’t get them. The young lads will then get a chance to shine. I’m all for that.
 
Fridge chutney said:
We've made 4 signings and that's it, final.

1) Dalot, promising young RB. Can learn from Valencia.

2) Fred, CM. Perfect signing to enhance our midfield.

3) Lee Grant. Backup keeper. Romero has been injured so an important reinforcement in case anything happens to DDG.

4) Fellaini, CM, 10, striker. We had assumed he was off so this is like a new signing. Given his versatility, he's like 2 new signings actually. So one could argue that we've made 5 signings.

Can't see us doing any more business, especially under the 5 signing hypothesis.
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Dalot can also play as a LB and RB, Fred started off as a LB so he can do a shift there and Pereira has come back from loan, so using that logic one can probably argue that we've made 8 signings- which is a few signings over the quota you mentioned.

No, but seriously I reckon we'll sign 2 more players between LB, CB and RW. All 3 if we're lucky.
 
red thru&thru said:
I’m slowly coming around to the fact why United do what they do, in regards to transfers. It’s good for the club for fans to over react. It’s good for the fans to have near nervous breakdowns. It keeps the club relevant. People will go on search engines, social media, discussions down the pub etc etc. The more “clicks” etc our name is involved in, it makes the club more appealing.

It used to be annoying to see the United fans having meltdowns but it’s more enjoyable now. It’s amazing to think that fans know more than the no1 football club in the world. Know more than a manager who has literally won every domestic title.

Going back to transfers, the club will know what they want to do. If they can’t get their targets, they shouldn’t get them. The young lads will then get a chance to shine. I’m all for that.
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Aye aye. Lets shut the fecking forum down altogether then. Who the feck we are to even dare the club's transfer policy or Mou's effect on the team. Let us just keep winning an odd FA cup here and there and throw a towel to the league before X-mas again. Being one of the biggest clubs in the world and bottling it in the league and Europe repeatedly.
 
I find it hard to stomach that city buy a player they dont even need in Mahrez that would of been ideal for us.
 
I think Sandro will come in and possibly Maguire at a push and that will be it. Best case scenario.

Certainly doesn't close the gap with City and with the European elite. Will be a battle for Top 4 again.
 
Macern said:
I haven’t paid very much attention to transfers lately, but from what I’ve gathered we’re looking to sing one center back (either Maguire or Alderweireld), probably not another left back (we would’ve signed Sandro already), maybe one winger (Perisic?), but probably not.

So that’s it? Fred, Dalot and one CB? Not what I was hoping for to be honest. I can’t see us beating City to the title with these three transfers.

De Gea
Valencia - CB - Bailly - Shaw
Matic
Fred - Pogba
Lingard - Lukaku - Sanchez

Seems like we’re relying heavily on most of Rashford, Lingard, Martial, Shaw, Fred, Sanchez and Pogba to develop intensely and have an excellent season to compete for the major titles. Or am I wrong?
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whether we beat anyone to the title is 98% based on whether jose can improve what he already has and maybe a little bit based on signing a couple of players. Far more important that we get the expensive players that we already have playing well, that is probably worth 15 points
 
West Ham have just signed their 7th player of the window!
I can’t stand them as a club, but you can’t fault their early business.
 
lewwoo said:
I find it hard to stomach that city buy a player they dont even need in Mahrez that would of been ideal for us.
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Pep is a greedy twit but not signing Mahrez is totally our failure. He isn't a Mourinho player but I'm pretty sick of that term tbh
 
Transfers windows are always the same for me, it's either the start or the end and not much in the middle. This was made even worse as the middle has been the WC. There are so many other variables and it's like spinning plates with stars aligning makes me wonder how they ever get done sometimes. I think some of our remaining deals are tied up cause the players identified have gone deep in the WC. I also think we need to still shift a few out to make room for anyone coming in. I think we'll sign a couple of CB with Jones et al looking for new clubs. I guarantee and defender we sell will end up at Everton lol
 
Thing is we havent actually had any real leaks/news for signings for a couple of weeks its all gone quite.

Jose knows he has a big year this season. 3rd season with United and if he doesnt want to loose his job he wont sit by and accept no transfers with Young/Shaw as our only LB options.

Fully expect a CB, LB and maybe a RW if were lucky still to come.
 


This video does put into perspective what is going on, while I have given Mourinho so much stick, the board are a problem. We cannot possibly think saying yeah Jose thinks valencia is a RB, jones is a good CB, young is a good LB, fellaini is a good DM. But what is going on at our football club? are we making the correct signings? we need a LB, CB, RB, CM, RW, and we linked with bale, who is a LW and injury prone also. Is this board that cheap? they think its too expensive to win a title, so we make due
 
Oneunited26 said:
This video does put into perspective what is going on, while I have given Mourinho so much stick, the board are a problem. We cannot possibly think saying yeah Jose thinks valencia is a RB, jones is a good CB, young is a good LB, fellaini is a good DM. But what is going on at our football club? are we making the correct signings? we need a LB, CB, RB, CM, RW, and we linked with bale, who is a LW and injury prone also. Is this board that cheap? they think its too expensive to win a title, so we make due
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He rates them and doesn't hide his endorsement of their abilities. No need to be in denial or look for scapegoats. He and the board likely don't see eye to eye on some things but that has nothing to do with Fellaini and Young
 
Oneunited26 said:


This video does put into perspective what is going on, while I have given Mourinho so much stick, the board are a problem. We cannot possibly think saying yeah Jose thinks valencia is a RB, jones is a good CB, young is a good LB, fellaini is a good DM. But what is going on at our football club? are we making the correct signings? we need a LB, CB, RB, CM, RW, and we linked with bale, who is a LW and injury prone also. Is this board that cheap? they think its too expensive to win a title, so we make due
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Who is this guy and why should we trust him?
I mean it's a funny meltdown. Why are we not spending money?!?
Transfer window is still open.
I dont think board has just decided not to give Jose money, especially since they've given him what he needs since he came.
 
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