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Same goes every year. Darmian, Blind, Jones, Mata. We fall back on them being merely 'squad options' yet they let us down time and again when actually selected. Young has turned it around but the above must be moved on, Pep would have done so long ago.

What relevance does this have, the mighty Lord Pepus signs a £50M player to sit on the bench. If we spend £50M, it's because we want to play them.
 
What relevance does this have, the mighty Lord Pepus signs a £50M player to sit on the bench. If we spend £50M, it's because we want to play them.
Just trying to highlight what I think probably the best manager in the world would do. He cleared out the deadwood after one season and signed players of the requisite quality to win the league. Very had to compete with their spending but imo its the strength of their squad as a whole, rather than better individuals, that is a level above us.
 
Just trying to highlight what I think probably the best manager in the world would do. He cleared out the deadwood after one season and signed players of the requisite quality to win the league. Very had to compete with their spending but imo its the strength of their squad as a whole, rather than better individuals, that is a level above us.

It makes it a bit easier when your resources are unlimited.

Out of interest, what deadwood did he clear out? Are you suggesting we bin our entire defence and spend £300M on a new one? And if it doesn't work out, put half of it on the bench and spend another £150M on some new ones until we finally find some that are any good?

Best manager in the World, my arse.
 
Not clearing out the deadwood and not improving our blatant weaknesses is a bit worrying. Not sure that will change
 
It makes it a bit easier when your resources are unlimited.

Out of interest, what deadwood did he clear out? Are you suggesting we bin our entire defence and spend £300M on a new one? And if it doesn't work out, put half of it on the bench and spend another £150M on some new ones until we finally find some that are any good?

Best manager in the World, my arse.
Forget Pep and City. But the point is a valid one. How long are are we going to keep hiding behind the " Utd is a business" mantra?? We are nowhere near ruthless enough in the market, in terms of both buying and selling. It's madness to expect us to win titles without making significant investment and no spending 150 million is no longer enough.
 
It makes it a bit easier when your resources are unlimited.

Out of interest, what deadwood did he clear out? Are you suggesting we bin our entire defence and spend £300M on a new one? And if it doesn't work out, put half of it on the bench and spend another £150M on some new ones until we finally find some that are any good?

Best manager in the World, my arse.
Plenty. Iheanacho, Fernando, Kolarov, Nasri, Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Navas, Mangala.

No, I am suggesting we replace them with 3/4 signings that are good enough to play for this club and other squad places can be filled by academy players, that's what United is about. Why would you persist with garbage and expect them to suddenly turn into great players?

I don't like Pep as a bloke but you can't deny his teams play with an identity and style, which is attractive to watch. He's the best in my opinion.
 
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Need 2 full backs and 1 more attacker ideally. 1 more center mid wouldn't hurt, though I doubt we bring in anyone with Fellaini staying.

But the key again is: it's down to Jose to maximize some of our current players.
Why would we get two full backs?
 
Agree with you, but which top player is on the market? Weird transfer window imo.
Top players usually are not available. We make our spots.

Juve pressured and Ronaldo went for it.
Griezmann is over.
Tempt Bale and pressure Madrid.
Huge offer plus Martial for Mbappe.
Huge offer for Dybala.
Rabiot is not a top player yet, but could go for a more than reasonable price.
Bonnuci in Milan.
Godin in Atleti, contract near ending, I think.
Also Felipe Luis had a bad spell at Chelsea, but is a great LB. Was the best fb in the Seleção, even over Marcelo.

There are options, and none cheap, but that's what you get with top targets.
 
Plenty. Iheanacho, Fernando, Kolarov, Nasri, Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Navas, Mangala.

No, I am suggesting we replace them with 3/4 signings that are good enough to play for this club and other squad places can be filled by academy players, that's what to United is about. Why would you persist with garbage and expect them to suddenly turn into great players?

I don't like Pep as a bloke but you can't deny his teams play with an identity and style, which is attractive to watch. He's the best in my opinion.
Even made his mark with mighty Joe Hart.

He did a great job there, no way denying that.
 
Top players usually are not available. We make our spots.

Juve pressured and Ronaldo went for it.
Griezmann is over.
Tempt Bale and pressure Madrid.
Huge offer plus Martial for Mbappe.
Huge offer for Dybala.
Rabiot is not a top player yet, but could go for a more than reasonable price.
Bonnuci in Milan.
Godin in Atleti, contract near ending, I think.
Also Felipe Luis had a bad spell at Chelsea, but is a great LB. Was the best fb in the Seleção, even over Marcelo.

There are options, and none cheap, but that's what you get with top targets.

Would love to have Bale here but can't see Madrid selling him now after CR7 left. :(
 
When in the ever loving feck will we improve the first team? Not only we still have squad players in our back line, and issues everywhere in our attack, City has already increased the gulf between us two without playing a single match. Don't get me started at the Europe level.

No goddamned way we can continue trotting out Young, Valencia, even Jones and Smalling, let alone Blind and Darmian. Are Lindelof and Rojo ready to play first team? Will they ever be United quality? Don't even know what to think about Bailly, not sure what kind of bullshit is going on with him and Mourinho.

Is the plan to finally get the right winger we need, in hopes to outscore teams, meanwhile the midfield sorts out its shitshow? feck!
 
Can't believe there is no super muppet thread this window :( No camping in the thread, no constant F5, no tracking planes, no body language experts, no losing out shite when someone claiming to be ITK drops a hint....
Really terrible window for all the muppets.
 
Bale: if he really wants to come then he'll come but till now he never showed that he wants to join us!

The thing is that all the top PL teams have already made most of their purchases and moves but all we did is get a second class Brazilian and a young upcoming Potuguese full back - hardly anything to be happy about.

So where does that leave us with the top four in the PL ?!!?
 
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Bale: if he really wants to come then he'll come but till now he never showed that he wants to join us!

The thing is that all the top PL teams have already made most of their purchases and moves but all we did is get a second class Brazilian and a young upcoming Potuguese full back - hardly anything to be happy about.

So where does that leave us with the top four in the PL ?!!?


It leaves us well and truly Out of it.
 
Just over 3 weeks to sign a centre back, left back, right winger, central midfielder and a (backup) striker.. this should be fun.
 
All our budget is reserved to sign Bale. I could feel it, bros. He's coming home.
 
I'm starting to think we are done in the transfer market which will be suicidal imo. Mourinho never likes to leave his transfer business late unless something sudden arrives and he's always done his business early. The transfer ends in around 3 weeks or so. If we haven't got a LB by now it simply means we're not interested in one. There have been no real concrete links to anyone yet including Sandro and if we were going to buy him you would've expected that to be done already or at least be at a advanced stage because he never went to the world cup but no. There's too many positions that are being neglected and time is running out. Very worried now.
 
While I think we need to work towards replacing both fullbacks and bring in at least one really top, top center back, we did have the second lowest goals against record. I think we have most of a league winning squad. Pogba, Lukaku, Lingard and a few others ought to be brimming with confidence after strong showings this WC.
Several others have had a good rest and should come back revitalized and ready to go. In an effort to balance experience and talent with team chemistry, I can't see why we would make any more changes to this team. At some point, we need to see if they really can get over the last hurdles in the Premiership and Champion's League. If we fail to improve, I'll be all in with making wholesale changes to the team and staff.
 
Can't believe there is no super muppet thread this window :( No camping in the thread, no constant F5, no tracking planes, no body language experts, no losing out shite when someone claiming to be ITK drops a hint....
Really terrible window for all the muppets.

This is the very reason why I am very worried about our transfer window.
It is quite possible that we have completed our business. I really hope I am wrong.
 
I know very well that our market will be dead during World Cup and surprisingly many here were disagreeing and attacking me on this as if they have never seen a WC effect on market before. We did well though to sign 2 players before World Cup but most market work die during WC till teams start to get KOed. Juve were lucky to have Portugal out that quickly imo.

The 3 weeks after WC will be very congested for all EPL teams not just us.
 
Not clearing out the deadwood and not improving our blatant weaknesses is a bit worrying. Not sure that will change

It's certainly a long-term approach. If we were about the short-term, trying to immediately get to the top we would be getting rid of unwanted players even if we're not getting good money. We'd have 4-5 top players joining this summer. But it seems that the board is not likely to take any sort of financial risks, which in itself is a risk of falling further behind (not just in England but on the European stage).

Presumably half the budget spent so far on two players and no sales. I understand them not wanting to take huge risks, but I also think they have to face up to the fact that we've had two failed managerial appointments back to back that complicated any future rebuild.
 
Our squad isn't that bad, so I'm not that bothered what we do really, but if we do anything it has to be the RW.
 
Come on, look at the money we have spent post SAF, there is very little in the way of restraint in our spending.
We finished 7th 6th and then we spent big as we wernt even making top 4 regularly. I have a feeling when they feel confident of regular top 4 the money tap will be on trickle
 
We finished 7th 6th and then we spent big as we wernt even making top 4 regularly. I have a feeling when they feel confident of regular top 4 the money tap will be on trickle

Good point there. Playing catch up we had to invest in the squad and finishing 2nd is probably in their minds almost certainty that top 4 will be guaranteed and so funds are now being restricted unless a top player becomes available.

Also we invested heavily in the youth set up a couple of years back and signed a number of highly rated youngsters, the aim being to develop talent for the first team. Maybe one or two of them are going to be promoted this season and Mourinho wants to see them in pre season before making a final decision on bringing any more players in.
 
During the season mourinho talked about need to big signings now its not even a virus size news and link ups even wc is almost over. Are we preparing for a massive bid or letdown. Indeed either we are impatient or worrying signs. This much of lack in link ups and available world class players has never happened in recent times.
 
Good point there. Playing catch up we had to invest in the squad and finishing 2nd is probably in their minds almost certainty that top 4 will be guaranteed and so funds are now being restricted unless a top player becomes available.

Also we invested heavily in the youth set up a couple of years back and signed a number of highly rated youngsters, the aim being to develop talent for the first team. Maybe one or two of them are going to be promoted this season and Mourinho wants to see them in pre season before making a final decision on bringing any more players in.
Yes the youth and the infrastructure has all been heavily invested in over the last 3-4 years, so we should have some good young players given a chance. Even if we only promoted 1 a year, would be a step in the right direction.
 
Yes the youth and the infrastructure has all been heavily invested in over the last 3-4 years, so we should have some good young players given a chance. Even if we only promoted 1 a year, would be a step in the right direction.
Agree with the youth promotion but normally when teams are winning and playing great its easier to chip in yougsters as well as put them some winning mentalility, If we are striving for quality youths
 
Just trying to highlight what I think probably the best manager in the world would do. He cleared out the deadwood after one season and signed players of the requisite quality to win the league. Very had to compete with their spending but imo its the strength of their squad as a whole, rather than better individuals, that is a level above us.
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