Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!
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It’s pretty obvious that if we don’t bring in at least 3 new players, with a minimum of 2 in midfield, then the team’s ability to compete properly will be severely hampered. The depth just isn’t there, notwithstanding how lucky we were with how successful the Bruno singing was.
The longer we go without signing anyone it becomes clear that the Glazers, Woodward, and the board are content are scraping by into Europe each year with an absolute bare minimum in investments. I have zero confidence in the governing bodies at the club to have any backbone or interest in aggressively challenging other top clubs.
The longer we go without signing anyone it becomes clear that the Glazers, Woodward, and the board are content are scraping by into Europe each year with an absolute bare minimum in investments. I have zero confidence in the governing bodies at the club to have any backbone or interest in aggressively challenging other top clubs.
I thought before the window we wouldn’t see much activity across the board due to Covid financial implications. But since everyone else is doing business, I hope they don’t pull that excuse out when we don’t complete any deals
You mean like a mass protest outside the ground? Hmmm if only there was a reason why groups of people shouldn’t meet up in huge numbers
We've become a disgrace with our transfers.
What transfers?
This thread is going to be ruined if we sign someone this week.
do you think there is big business being done, obviously taking chelsea out of the frame ? I'm not sure what the biggest deal of the window chelsea aside will even end up being, Sane maybe
Just one. When we need a few more
This situation has been in place for years. Every year we end up in a nonsense scenario over transfers and our standing as a serious player in the world of football is annually damaged to the point that we are a bit of a laughing stock. Not just in getting transfers over the line, but actually being in the market for the best players. Even Mourinho has managed to get tightfisted Levy to sign up three.
If our ambition is to challenge at the top of the Prem, well there has been little since Sir Alex left to show that that is matched with how we are working in the market.
We are looking at Van de Beek ... but I would not put a penny on his arriving. But why are we not seeking Thiago, who won't be expensive. He is just the kind of player we have sadly lacked, a quarterback, deep lying playmaker who can find that killer pass. He would be perfect alongside Pogba just behind Bruno. Relying on a loan striker from the Chinese Super League in Ighalo till January, as backup is mystifying.
There is no doubt that the board have to be under enormous pressure to deliver with our immediate rivals all strengthening. Even Arsenal.
Anyone who says we don't need strengthening, has not been listening to Ole.
We can only hope that something is pulled out the bag, but we have been here before. Multiple times. That is the worry.
Last summer, we did some good business, albeit overpaid and that is the ray of light in all this. But then, we did our business far earlier then. Right now anyone we get in the door based overseas including Sancho or Van de Beek will not even be able to train with the first team when the new season kicks off, because they will need to quarantine for two weeks.
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£50M for Chillwell is a good price? And they're paying him, what was it, £190K/week?
You think that's a good deal?
£50m for Chilwell, who is an England's first choice left back with 11 caps isn't good value? We paid the same for another full back Wan-Bissaka who has no England caps. You do the math.
I do maths, not math.
AsArsenal, Chelsea and now Spurs dip,into the market and sign players and are our main rivals , the fear remains that this could end in tears as Ed prevaricates and seems unable to move swiftly in this window as with others.
Is Joel Glazer again suggesting he doesn't see value or perhaps doesn't actually want to,spend the reason behind the sluggish movement. Our CEO who makes outlandish statements about the clubs financial position compared to most others seems to move in quicksand when that is the last thing needed.
Can only hope lightning strikes and signings are made to enable us to challenge is the Premier League and Champions League, seems a big call currently.
Is Joel Glazer again suggesting he doesn't see value or perhaps doesn't actually want to,spend the reason behind the sluggish movement. Our CEO who makes outlandish statements about the clubs financial position compared to most others seems to move in quicksand when that is the last thing needed.
Can only hope lightning strikes and signings are made to enable us to challenge is the Premier League and Champions League, seems a big call currently.
Thiago is not on a free. Bayern want €30m for him.
Happier now?
Just had a horrible thought
Summer 2018
GK = Grant
MF = Fred
Defence = Dalot
Summer 2020
GK = Henderson
MF = DVB
Defence = Badiashile?
Essentially let's hope today is the start of something (Sancho, Thiago) rather than see it fizzle out and just sign a young player for the defence (I used badiashile as an example but could easily be someone even less well known)
Summer 2018
GK = Grant
MF = Fred
Defence = Dalot
Summer 2020
GK = Henderson
MF = DVB
Defence = Badiashile?
Essentially let's hope today is the start of something (Sancho, Thiago) rather than see it fizzle out and just sign a young player for the defence (I used badiashile as an example but could easily be someone even less well known)
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Change it to 'for only one signing'
Thiago isn't free. Bayern want at least as much as they paid for him despite his questionable injury record and his age: 29. You have everything inside-out and back-to-front. The thing about Bayern is just how spendthrift they are at transfers. They spent more than £41m only once (£72m for Lucas Hernández from Atlético). This year they 'stole' Sane for £41m. Bayern are the Glazer's wet dream.
Last season, Bayern used 3 loanees from Barca, Real and Inter.
Bayern are managed by football people. United aren't. That's the difference. No amount of spending on players can change that. United need to bring in someone like VDS (from Ajax) to be head of football, with a place on the board, and his own transfer kitty; which the club aren't allowed to raid.
Tbh yes, at least we signed someone, supposedly a promising one as well.
However when I was posting in the Sancho thread, with something involved the sugar daddy clubs, suddenly a thought came to my mind that usually an owner buy a club, pay the club's debts and invest his money into the club. We must be the fecking single club in history that has to pay the owner's debts and give them money. Pure madness.
Still need that attacking left back....
If you want an attacking fullback I’d suggest the other side is more in need of an upgrade.
I am confident that Sancho will be a Unnited player by the end of transfer window + CB. Because we have no other option how to compete in the league. ST would be a bonus, we can buy one in January.
Hang out the bunting, warm up the band... we might actually have signed someone... just wondering how, from this position, the genius that is Ed Woodward can bollox it up
How does that fit into the thread title?
In one signing, plenty of time before the season starts, we have gone from “no signings, the world is ending, only club to not sign anyone” to “2nd largest net spend in the prem.”
Do you think anyone complaining feels silly?
Do you think anyone complaining feels silly?
to put it simply, no! Interesting that you focus on net spend rather than how other teams are strengthening, what they are laying to do so and what we desperately need
After all the moaning here about lack of links and rumours isn't it much preferred how we've gone about the Van de beek transfer under the recent radar?
I call it Schrodinger’s Woody.
People here seem to think Ed throws money at transfers, but also that we are too stingy.
They think he briefs the press too much, but are frustrated when we don’t have plenty of rumours.
Think he only goes for the big name signings to boost the club, but complain incessantly about Dan James and Wan Bisaka.
Basically, for some reason as a fanbase anything we don’t like has become an excuse to insult things we have no idea about.
And for the icing on the cake, anytime you point out the fact that Woody may not in fact be the root of all evil in the world, you have people accusing you of being a Glazer apologist or seriously implying that you're probably being paid by Woody to paint him in a positive light online.
Looking like we will make a couple more signings so who do people think will be the next one
Imo he is not. The Glazers are.
Like I keep saying, people keep assuming the worst from the cub when its been smooth sailing in terms of construction under Ole. We are a club that traditionally sign one to two well scouted players in a window, not too many big signings either. People sometimes act like under Fergie we attracted all the best player and never failed in prizing a player away from another club. In reality, we missed more than we hit in regard to signing big money signings in a way that has publicized over the course of Premier League history, Shearer and Gascoigne primarily. We even had Di Canio reject us in 2002, its not a big deal.
What we had before Ole were managers who did not understand the club and its level of attractiveness to players. We have always found it difficult luring top level players from teams in Europe, due to United pricing and other constants. We have also always found it difficult to sell, and usually have always sold on the cheap. People saw Fergie saying there was no value in the market as Glazers being stingy and chose not to read it for what it was, we were finding it difficult to sign players due to their prices. People like Van Gaal and Mourinho came in, looking at our reputation and the amount of money we had and assumed we could simply prize players like Neymar and Muller from their teams. They set massive hurdles for Woodward to jump and he faltered in ways both David Gill, Peter Kenyon and Martin Edwards did. The key difference is that a. these figures were more lowkey about financial figures than Woodward has been. b. Fergie had enough love for the club and knowledge about United related transfer affairs to show understanding and manage the situation. We have always been a club that uses our academy and gives players at the club a chance to prove themselves. Ole fully understands it and it has shown. No overhaul needed, simply patient, calculated and thoroughly( personality included) scouted players. Its why Van Gaal sold Nani then stated he didn't have wingers later after trying to sign players for a 352. Its why Mourinho signed Fred and Lindelof and didn't like them once they had them. Those two managers did not care about the welfare of the club and were more concerned about winning for personal glory rather than rebuilding.
What we had before Ole were managers who did not understand the club and its level of attractiveness to players. We have always found it difficult luring top level players from teams in Europe, due to United pricing and other constants. We have also always found it difficult to sell, and usually have always sold on the cheap. People saw Fergie saying there was no value in the market as Glazers being stingy and chose not to read it for what it was, we were finding it difficult to sign players due to their prices. People like Van Gaal and Mourinho came in, looking at our reputation and the amount of money we had and assumed we could simply prize players like Neymar and Muller from their teams. They set massive hurdles for Woodward to jump and he faltered in ways both David Gill, Peter Kenyon and Martin Edwards did. The key difference is that a. these figures were more lowkey about financial figures than Woodward has been. b. Fergie had enough love for the club and knowledge about United related transfer affairs to show understanding and manage the situation. We have always been a club that uses our academy and gives players at the club a chance to prove themselves. Ole fully understands it and it has shown. No overhaul needed, simply patient, calculated and thoroughly( personality included) scouted players. Its why Van Gaal sold Nani then stated he didn't have wingers later after trying to sign players for a 352. Its why Mourinho signed Fred and Lindelof and didn't like them once they had them. Those two managers did not care about the welfare of the club and were more concerned about winning for personal glory rather than rebuilding.
Would be ecstatic with a window of Upamecano, Donny & Sancho,keep telling myself no chance of Thiago then will make him signing for the scousers easier to accept
That would be an incredible window. Not sure if we have the budget for that though