Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!

I mean, we had a rookie manager using a team full of players from the Championship and sold our best player, all while not being able to sign anyone.
Our manager has experience with Cardiff & in the Norwegian leagues, hardly Klopp but congrats to Super Frank on 4th.

Full of Championship players? I take it you’re discussing Mount, Tammy, Tomori & James who all have more Championship experience than Dan James [who actually featured in more league games than everyone but Mount].

But yes, you sold your best player who was replaced in the 2019 January Transfer Window by a £57mil American wunderkind, who conveniently came in during your ban then finally started playing post lockdown.

I get where you’re going but let’s temper the rhetoric.

That United finished level with us having spent about £150m is pretty poor.
How’s that World Record fee goalkeeper your rookie manager had to work with going for you :rolleyes: Investing money & investing it well are 2 different things. . .

I happen to think United spent terribly last summer but you’ve hardly penny pinched yourselves on dross.

As for who has the better first XI I think it's splitting hairs. Both absolutely quality. I won't go there because I'd pick mostly Chelsea players while you guys would pick mostly United players.
All I asked was who from the players you’ve signed should we have pursued bar your RW - if anything the fact you’re spending north of £200mil & say you’d be ‘splitting hairs’ with a squad you finished on the same points as is pretty poor.

At some point United will strengthen, let’s see how the product is on the pitch & how transfers play out over the next 6 weeks before picking best 11s.
 
It was evident that we are lacking in depth as we had to play the same 11 week in week out post Covid. I just can’t see the sense in buying Sancho and adding him to a depleted squad. We need to buy 3/4/5 really good players to strengthen the squad, not just one worldie
 
It was evident that we are lacking in depth as we had to play the same 11 week in week out post Covid. I just can’t see the sense in buying Sancho and adding him to a depleted squad. We need to buy 3/4/5 really good players to strengthen the squad, not just one worldie
This board take an age to get one transfer done.

I actually lean towards your thinking but we couldn’t dream of having as much transfer activity as say Chelsea have this summer so honestly I’d much rather Sancho than the dross they’d serve up otherwise.

If we don’t eventually get Sancho we aren’t getting the 4/5 players in that the squad need for depth so his transfer is a necessity for me.
 
We need some decent options on the bench and players who can come on and change the game. It’s worrying that we’re not seeing or hearing any movement at the moment. Get some free agents or something in, anything.

I hope we’re not pinning all our hopes on Sancho because if we go into the new season with the same subs we’re f**ked.
 
Would also like to point out for the Glazer defenders what our manager thinks of this.

Solskjaer on July 26: “The club knows what I feel we need, but that’s up to them to go and sort it out.”

Hopefully he won't change his tune and start being positive about next season about a week before it starts as it's the same thing he done when he found it he couldn't spend the Lukaku money.

Ole needs to keep enphahsing this stance.
 
Don't think they care. They are making money for free, bought the club with debt, aren't investing any of their own money in. They will milk the club dry, get as much as they can from us, then when we are a spent force, sell us.

Do people really think that's beyond them? They aren't United supporters, they aren't even football supporters. It's a business, they don't give a shite about us, or the football. If they cared, there would have been widescale changes a while ago, rather than throwing the same shit at the wall, hoping it eventually sticks.

Make some free money, using this ageing generation who still actually care for the club, then feck off when it's no longer as profitable as we inevitably become less and less important over time
Well my point was actually about the finances. If this club goes down the arsenal path the amount of supports will be reduced significantly. A lot of why this club is so wealthy is due to the huge worldwide fanbase. As you probably know, football fans across the world were attracted to the United that fought for every trophy, played attacking and aggressive football. So in the long run that cashcow will not be nearly as big if we're just giving up on competing at the highest level. This is not to say we need to worry about "glory hunters" but we need to at least be a team that wants to win all things.
 
Well my point was actually about the finances. If this club goes down the arsenal path the amount of supports will be reduced significantly. A lot of why this club is so wealthy is due to the huge worldwide fanbase. As you probably know, football fans across the world were attracted to the United that fought for every trophy, played attacking and aggressive football. So in the long run that cashcow will not be nearly as big if we're just giving up on competing at the highest level. This is not to say we need to worry about "glory hunters" but we need to at least be a team that wants to win all things.

Yep, that was my sentiment in my post too. There needs to be a time when this has to stop
 
What seems utterly bizarre at the moment is there seems to be little to no bullshit from the red tops. Usually they are in overdrive about players we do not have chance in hell of signing or just complete fabrications on players they have heard from a friend of a friend of a confidential source Utd may possibly interested in.

It's eerie silence on incoming and outgoings compared to other seasons.

I've been saying, the board doesn't even care about appeasing the fans because they know they are spineless and won't do shit.
I'm not saying it was a good thing to do (it's not) but somebody threw a fecking grenade in a FC Barcelona office. In those clubs, you feck the club, the fans want to feck you. The MUFC fanbase just shuts the feck up.
 
The sooner our fans realize we are a business first and then a football club the better. We will sign after dropping points to palace or brighton and then everyone will be again praising the board.

Well we saw us being reactive to that shocking home defeat to Burnley by signing Bruno so wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if we pull the same trick if we drop points in either of our opening two games
 
We've spent 1.2bn since Fergie and not even been in a title race let alone win a title. The one time we finished 2nd, City had wrapped the league up by Xmas that we never really had anything to cling on to.

We won't win the PL or CL again under their tenure. Fergie and to some extent David Gill were the glue holding it all together after they lumbered us with their debt. Since then its been an utter shambles.

Fans are eventually going to have to make things very uncomfortable for them or we won't ever get rid. It might even mean we have a disaster of a season and come in bottom half of the league because of the protests but it would be worth it in the long haul.

I won't get my season ticket back until they are gone.

The biggest problem is there probably isn't enough match going fans who are willing to make the atmosphere hostile for the Glazers and Woody, there were signs of it in the Norwich game last season but nothing sustained like when Liverpool did that walkout over their previous ownership once.
 
Can you feel the anticipation?

Another day of deafening silence for Manchester United’s transfer activity..

GET. THE. feck. IN!!!!!!
 
The club just cant invest now. I’m sure part of it is cause the Glazers will need money themselves. They have been messing this club up for years, things just don’t change. And with that kind of board, of course we don’t need a DoF
 
I reckon we'll end up with Brooks and Sancho this window which will be pretty decent. This way we get two quality players on the bench with Rashford/Greenwood and Brooks.
I reckon our options from the bench will be: Henderson
Bailly
Williams
Fred
Mctominay
Mata
Brooks
James
Greenwood
Ighalo (until January)

This bench is by no means world class but still some good options and considerably better than last season.
 
About time to change the title, 37 days left; two weeks 'till the start of the PL...
 
Can you feel the anticipation?

Another day of deafening silence for Manchester United’s transfer activity..

GET. THE. feck. IN!!!!!!

had a shuddering thought, we get to deadline day with no signings, and woodward/judge are so terrified of the spotlight that we spend something like 50-55 million for Brooks, when we are flirting with the option for 30ish million now.
 
had a shuddering thought, we get to deadline day with no signings, and woodward/judge are so terrified of the spotlight that we spend something like 50-55 million for Brooks, when we are flirting with the option for 30ish million now.

The summer of Fellaini - revisited.


It’s so much more depressing though, because we finally seemed to be moving in the right ‘United way’ for the first time post Sir Alex
 
The summer of Fellaini - revisited.


It’s so much more depressing though, because we finally seemed to be moving in the right ‘United way’ for the first time post Sir Alex

The only saving grace, would woodward want to be that embarrassed again? I think that may have been the closest he's been to getting the sack.

I genuinely think the options may be Sancho deadline day, all chips in the pot, and we spend HUUUGE on one player. BVB will sell even on deadline day, they really don't care as long as the money is good.........Or we brief "no value in the COVID market" and throw Ole under the bus.
 
Well we saw us being reactive to that shocking home defeat to Burnley by signing Bruno so wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if we pull the same trick if we drop points in either of our opening two games

I’ve been coming round to the idea that this is the plan for the board. Pinch off the discontent as cheaply and as late as possible with one marquee signing. It won’t be Sancho though, as I just don’t see Dortmund selling so late in the window. It’ll be a Bale/Ronaldo on a free or Griezmann (on loan) with big wages. It’ll push back the malcontent for a few months until fatigue decimates our paper thin squad.
 
If we fail to make any (significant) signings this summer, you would have to question what everyone on the board is doing for their salary. And I mean everyone. Do they care about where the club is going? Do they have any ambitions above their own? It's pathetic. Chelsea are now up to five signings and it doesn't look as if they are done yet. The whole establishment of United should hang their heads in shame if we fail to strengthen having pulled the rabbit out of the hat to finish third. What a shambles
 
If we fail to make any (significant) signings this summer, you would have to question what everyone on the board is doing for their salary. And I mean everyone. Do they care about where the club is going? Do they have any ambitions above their own? It's pathetic. Chelsea are now up to five signings and it doesn't look as if they are done yet. The whole establishment of United should hang their heads in shame if we fail to strengthen having pulled the rabbit out of the hat to finish third. What a shambles

They're making money for the owners.

That is the only thing that matters to Manchester United Football Club post Alex Ferguson.
 
If we fail to make any (significant) signings this summer, you would have to question what everyone on the board is doing for their salary. And I mean everyone. Do they care about where the club is going? Do they have any ambitions above their own? It's pathetic. Chelsea are now up to five signings and it doesn't look as if they are done yet. The whole establishment of United should hang their heads in shame if we fail to strengthen having pulled the rabbit out of the hat to finish third. What a shambles
None, zero, nada, of the directors have a background in football prior to being appointed to the board. Source: ManUtd.com. Why expect anything other than what we’re experiencing.
 
Shambles. Think we purposely leave it late to have the fan base crazy then when we make one signing we should be grateful. Anyone with a brain could understand we need minimum 3 players to come in and lift the quality.
 
I believed that in the coming season we would see that strengthened United team. That we would strengthen the club to close the gap up to first place. What we are seeing now is a total lack of ambition - a satisfaction with the state of affairs. We may buy 1-2 players, but I do not believe that they will buy a player for the starting lineup now.
 
Not even any rumours the last week.... frustrating as feck
 
Leeds break their record by signing Rodrigo and here is Ed going on about how the market has changed due to Covid. Our club looking more foolish everyday.
 
Jurgen Klopp became a Liverpool legend last season, but standing still while Man United improve, Chelsea spend big and Lionel Messi edges towards Man City means retaining the title will be his toughest test yet
  • Jurgen Klopp is facing up to perhaps his biggest ever season in management
  • The German immortalised himself among the Liverpool legends by winning title
  • But now he must defend this title, while all around him are getting stronger
  • Chelsea are dominating the transfer market and Man City could yet sign Messi
  • Sportsmail takes a closer look at the mammoth task ahead for the Reds this year
By DANNY GALLAGHER FOR MAILONLINE


seems like this guy really knows what he is talking about. must have written this headline when Romano said “Sancho personal terms agreed”
 
I’m becoming a little concerned actually. I’m far from one of those anti-Glazer/Woodward-out man-children; quite the opposite, in truth. But Ole has driven home his part of the bargain. He’s gutted the squad in a short space of time, improved the atmosphere surrounding the club and has started to see some results. He’s also made it very clear that his squad isn’t yet good enough to compete at the top. The club has to back him and we need to bring in two or three quality players. If we don’t then it’s negligent. That we haven’t already is worrying given how close we are to starting the season.

There’s still some time to go so I’ll hang off before I go in too hard, but it’s hard not to sympathise with the view that the club is content to Arsenal itself around the top four. The issue the suits have is that they can’t pin any downfall on Ole, especially if he hasn’t been supported in the market. Ole is no Van Gaal or Mourinho.

Let’s wait and see.
 
Its obvious that under current ownership we look at the transfers from a ROI perspective. If we needed players to get back to the CL we woul have got somebody by now. Since winning the league requires huge investment we wont see us challenging. Unless we bring up another Co92
 
They're making money for the owners.

That is the only thing that matters to Manchester United Football Club post Alex Ferguson.

I don't think enough of our fan base appreciate the truth of this post.
As much as I despise it, we are a business first and a football club second. The difference between finishing fourth and first in the premier league is about £9 million. An outlay of £120 million on Sancho would improve us as a team, but it wouldn't be sufficient to bridge the gap between us and the top two. We would need at least the same again.
The Glazers don't care about a shiny trophy. They bought us to make money. And they are making money, tonnes of it. Spending £300 million to win £9 million makes no business sense.

We may or may not buy someone (if it makes sense from a business perspective, we will.) but, even if we do buy Sancho, it was never going to be three weeks ago to allow him settle in and have a pre-season. Delaying that transfer until deadline day saves circa £3 million in wages and that again on interest. Not buying him at all saves about £140 million this year. There is a realistic chance that we finish fourth next season with no investment. Unfortunately, 4th is our goal and will be whilst we retain the current ownership.

Its a tough pill to swallow, but how can anyone tell me I'm wrong?
 
I've been saying, the board doesn't even care about appeasing the fans because they know they are spineless and won't do shit.
I'm not saying it was a good thing to do (it's not) but somebody threw a fecking grenade in a FC Barcelona office. In those clubs, you feck the club, the fans want to feck you. The MUFC fanbase just shuts the feck up.
Exactly my point. Apathetic fans mean less pressure on the owners so change, even in their behaviours if they don't sell the club, is less likely.
 
Shambles. Think we purposely leave it late to have the fan base crazy then when we make one signing we should be grateful. Anyone with a brain could understand we need minimum 3 players to come in and lift the quality.

Yeah, this crossed my mind too as a theory (which would be concerning in itself though). Our big marquee signing was Maguire last summer and we signed him 6 days before the opening fixture. We did have James and AWB, but that was still not nearly enough. This was also a season where we sold or loaned a massive amount of players, so while the window was pretty decent in terms of improvement looking at the whole picture it was clear as a day we had a paper thin squad. Pretty much everyone called it at the start of the season. But, getting Maguire so late kind of soften the blow and many peoples feelings. It was a big deal, but it certainly looked like we can pull it off before.

So, yeah, I think we will could see something similar. Tbh, if that man is Sancho and maybe one low-key signing to improve our depth or options at DM I would bite your hand at this point and the way this summer looks like. The worrying part is that all credible links and news died which was never the case before. Let's see.
 
None, zero, nada, of the directors have a background in football prior to being appointed to the board. Source: ManUtd.com. Why expect anything other than what we’re experiencing.
Well there are Messrs Ferguson and Charlton!
 
Why aren't any fans protesting or demanding ed and the board resign? Other big clubs demand the best

Our fan base is way too loyal towards our manager, can't be upsetting Ole with protests. Not that any of this is really Ole's fault, but it's clear that Woodward has been using him to shield himself, something that he couldn't do under Jose or LVG. Ole isnt going to rock the boat and we could go into the season with zero signings and I'd bet he'll say he's happy with our squad ect.