It's obvious by the fast pace of play they know these variatons well. Going towards a quick draw, which will be fine for both players i guess.
World Chess Championship: Carlsen vs Karjakin
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It will be fine only for Karjakin.After a full day of rest, Carlsen needs to make something happen here.
It is, at least until b3. I think Carlsen is looking for a forced draw here
First of all he needs to regain confidence. The position right now doesn't really allow Carlsen to hope for more than a draw. I think he must look to strike in one of the two games as white.
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/us-judge-agrees-with-chess24-on-chess-moves
These agon people seem like proper wankers.
These agon people seem like proper wankers.
What is the best site for live analysis? Thanks!
It was a bad move to leave, but tbh, football managers do this all the time when they are angry after a loss.
It's not like it's the first time it happens.
He hates losing, and i understand his frustration after seeing Karjakin's playstyle.
fantastic. thanks
Does that meter on he left indicate Karjakin is ahead?
Yes.
Just increased. I forgot how much I enjoy "watching". He should win this one and take a 2 pt lead.
I've not kept up with the rules. You get extra time each time you move? Off to wiki for me!
30 seconds for each move. Magnus is in trouble now, 3 minutes to make 3 moves in a very difficult position.
No way.
Carlsen has dealt pretty well with being down, as he has done numerous times in the past. Don't be fooled by the computer evaluation by the way. The position is very sharp, and Carlsen is lurking. I have seen him do it many times in the past.
If Karjakin finds Qb3 now he's the new WC...is my guess.
Everyone is just waiting for him to make the Qb3 move.
Someone wrote in the chat of Chess24, Bxf7, what is the point of that move?
Qb3 is very difficult to find. The problem here is finding the calm Rh3 after Nf5, Bxf7+, Kg7. Here, Rh3 is the only move (or Karjakin will be lost) but there are no forced variations (i.e. black can play anything he wants), so it will be difficult to analyse this position knowing that there is a great risk of losing in case Rh3 doesn't really work...
Qc4+, or maybe Rxh7+ followed by Qc4. With the idea of getting the Q to f7 and bishop to f6 or h6 for mating ideas. Not sure it works.
With the akward placement of pieces on the seventh rank, Karjakin will almost surely get the material back. Worst case is a good ending
"Slight advantage for white", but probably objectively a drawn endgame. I think White ends up with a rook and 4 (isolated) pawns vs rook and knight.
Thank you!
Yeah, so if he finds it he's probably found the whole variaton.
Exactly. I expected him to play Bxf7, which seems to be what he played.
Carlsen time is in 0 seconds, what happens now? the time starts again or this is over?
edit: ok, I found it out
edit: ok, I found it out
Karjakin went for Bxf7+ but he didn't go for the main continuation...
I thought his timer was basically done. Where did that extra 50 min just come from? Certainly re-evens things out!
I didn't consider d5 tbh. This position is way above my level, I would make a losing move every time from move 25-40 probably
They get 50 extra minutes after 40 moves. 15 minutes after 60 moves. And 30sec after each move
Karjakin has been really impressive the last few games.
Thanks. I like the new timing thing.
Carlsen should hold this to a draw with correct play.
Karjakin is getting himself into time trouble...
I won't be surprised if this was a feature of Carlsens decisions, trying to get Karjakin into problems on the clock as well as the board.
Can't believe Karjakin is spending so much time. Is this such a critical position? There seems to be a lot of good moves available to him.
Why Carlsen moved Nd4 twice? Why not Kc4?
edit: Forget it, it was a previous game
edit: Forget it, it was a previous game
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Karjakin is making the same mistake Carlsen did in game 8, he's just pushing too far. He has got himself in trouble now (both on the board and on the clock). Karjakin is playing like he's the one behind in the match, for some reason.
In the chat they are saying that Karjakin didn´t see it (before Ng5), what should have moved?
Was the queen exchange the best option for Carlsen? Seems to be quite equal now.