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Player signings are good n all but where are the commercial deals?
He's Ed Woodward he signs who he wants, he signs who he waaaannnntsss, he's Ed Woodward he signs who he wants.
Fecking Study! Even Gill managed to sign players, we need more commercial deals. Sack Study, sell Mr.Potato.redo the poll..
If he gets the Vidal deal done, I propose a an 'EdCafe' banner for 24hrs, like the tacky OranjeCafe one when Van Gaal was announced
Studward for Prime Minister.
Good spot, plus I was being lazy. Done.
Just goes to show how pathetic and over the top all the handwringing about Ed's perceived incompetence last season was. Two massive deals in two days, love it.
Woodward is making headways in the transfer market, mid June and people still find the need to ventilate. Bizarre.
I want an Ed Studward action figure.
Needs to keep up the momentum and get more deals done.
We're nowhere near finished yet, still need another midfielder and a centre back at least. Lets get them done quickly. Then he's Studdy.
We're nowhere near finished yet, still need another midfielder and a centre back at least. Lets get them done quickly. Then he's Studdy.
Lets be honest, even i could chuck 30 million to a club for an 18 year old, give him about 100 grand a week and convince him to come to Manchester United.
I don't get all the praise for someone who handled our affairs so terribly last season. Clearly Fabregas, Herrera, Shaw were pretty much all available last season and were targets but they were all cocked up for one reason or another.
I'm not saying i am not happy with the signings because it was pretty obvious what we are lacking and what we need.
Let's hope he has learned from the failings of the previous summer.
I don't get all the praise for someone who handled our affairs so terribly last season. Clearly Fabregas, Herrera, Shaw were pretty much all available last season and were targets but they were all cocked up for one reason or another.
I'm not saying i am not happy with the signings because it was pretty obvious what we are lacking and what we need.
Let's hope he has learned from the failings of the previous summer.
Equally, while it's all good fun, I don't think the sudden bout of hero worship is quite justified. He's dispelled the idea that he's some kind of transfer pariah, and wrapped these up very nicely, but at the end of the day is two transfers of the type we wouldn't have blinked an eyelid at in times gone by. He's certainly put people's worries aside, but he's not some kind of miracle worker.
Now... If we were to add two of Vidal, Hummels and Sanchez, then I'd be starting work on my woodie shrine!
Why neglect the other part of completing deals, namely the convincing of other clubs to part with players they want to keep for "reasonable" sums (doesn't include Mata obviously). I think he's done very well this year and last summer's failings are begininning to look more and more to be Moyes' fault.
I disagree, Fergie didn't like paying more than 25 million for a player if he could help it. Value in the market etc, etc.
Yet these targets i.e. Herrera, Shaw, Fabregas, Kroos were all Moyes's targets too.
Fergie was the manager, not CEO. But that aside, talking inflation into account these signings are no bigger than Nani, Anderson, Carrick etc. They certainly aren't in the Rio, Veron, Rooney bracket, price wise.
If Woodward lands Vidal, he'll be a god here.
Fair enough but he did pass on Herrera because he wanted to scout him further. I'll wait until we sign Kroos and Fabregas to comment further
True but remeber Benzema? Once the price hit 35 million Fergie didn't want him anymore. He may not have been the CEO but he certainly let Gill know who he did and didn't want and price was more often than not a very decisive factor in his later years. I'm not really critical of Fergie over this, he's from another generation and Scottish (
), times changed and he didn't see the sense in spending so much on a player.if there's one man I'd let make jokes about and degrade my mother, it's Studward.
Get the deal done Eddie. He took us literally, didn't he.
Fair enough but he did pass on Herrera because he wanted to scout him further. I'll wait until we sign Kroos and Fabregas to comment further
True but remeber Benzema? Once the price hit 35 million Fergie didn't want him anymore. He may not have been the CEO but he certainly let Gill know who he did and didn't want and price was more often than not a very decisive factor in his later years. I'm not really critical of Fergie over this, he's from another generation and Scottish (
I don't think fergie was as worried about the cost of players as the glazers were... People forget that he was an employee of united, even if he was a powerful one....
Everything that's happened in glazers tenure suggest they wouldn't spend big on the squad, but ferguson, to protect his job, publically supported them..
What changing perceptions? This thread looks like a car wreck only because people who were frothing from their mouth were posting. Look at the poll above and you'd know that majority know that we need more evidnece to know whether he is actually shit at his job.
Maybe not worried but I feel he had an old-school view on it that made him wary of paying so much for something as silly as a player's registration.
Just like when we got Moura and Hazard and Benzema and ...
I don't think anything that happened in the Glazer's tenure suggests that..
True, but £35m back in 2009 was really moving into tier 1 fees. All I'm saying is these two signings are more like tier 2 in terms of money (which is far from the be-all and end-all, lots of our best signings haven't even been tier 3 or 4!). Neither of them have me thinking "wow, how did Woodie pull that off"? They are both the sort of player who, should our manager target them and they want to come, I would expect us to have a good chance of tying up OK.
The question of who Fergie did or didn't want to spend money on isn't directly relevant.
Three differing scenarios, all of which you'd have to take into account how much Fergie wanted the player, and how much they wanted to come.
But the point is, I'm not claiming we've never missed out on a player, just that signing two players at this sort of level isn't some kind of unprecedented miracle. It's just Woodie doing the job to the level we'd expect of anybody give the responsibility.
CEO must stand for Clearly Ed's Outstanding.
Yeah it was getting close to that, although the Ronaldo transfer skewed everything even back then. It's not a question of who but how much he was willing to spend.
Opinion hasn't really changed massively. Improved certainly but he's been here for over a year and had a year under Gill to learn the trade. Took him long enough. Signing a couple players, one we tried for 12 months ago and a player we've been doing ground work on for months, hardly seems like a masterstroke. Just glad he's been able to do it and can now move on.
Well, as I say, I'll stick with Could Exceed Ordinary for now. It's an upgrade on his previous status of Couldn't Ensnare Obertan.
There's only so much 'groundwork' you can lay at this level. With expectation on instant results so huge, if you've got areas of the team that need improving you really cannot take the option of scouting someone for year. What was that 'Woodward is the kind of guy who would walk into a casino and put £1m on red' quote from a journalist, contrasting him to Moyes.
Given what we know about last summer or at least what we can reasonable assume based on credible reports, I don't see how anyone can blame Ed Woodward for last summer. The only thing he 'failed' in was securing Fabregas, but we were never sure how realistic that move was at the time anyway. It wasn't Woodward who didn't want to sign anyone unless personally scouted for a year, nor was it he who held off until signing Fellaini until after his fee release clause had expired, thinking he could get a better combo deal with Baines but ended up signing him alone for far, far more.
If van Gaal came in and took the same attitude (needing to wait a year before he would sign anyone he hadn't invited over for Christmas drinks) we'd have signed nobody now either.
Given what we know about last summer or at least what we can reasonable assume based on credible reports, I don't see how anyone can blame Ed Woodward for last summer. The only thing he 'failed' in was securing Fabregas, but we were never sure how realistic that move was at the time anyway. It wasn't Woodward who didn't want to sign anyone unless personally scouted for a year, nor was it he who held off until signing Fellaini until after his fee release clause had expired, thinking he could get a better combo deal with Baines but ended up signing him alone for far, far more.
If van Gaal came in and took the same attitude (needing to wait a year before he would sign anyone he hadn't invited over for Christmas drinks) we'd have signed nobody now either.
Came in after an hour or two out and we haven't signed anyone. No pictures of Vidal holding the shirt or anything about Sanchez. We appear to be slowing down on signing people
Don't think Woody's proved that much yet, an unproven kid and an uncapped midfielder is not all that inspiring tbh
Don't think Woody's proved that much yet, an unproven kid and an uncapped midfielder is not all that inspiring tbh
@Olly
Can you make a gif with Studward's head on Arnold Schwarzenegger's body in Commando during the ridiculous machine gun scene, and instead of bullets, the gun shoots money?
There has to be something that works in there.
Can you make a gif with Studward's head on Arnold Schwarzenegger's body in Commando during the ridiculous machine gun scene, and instead of bullets, the gun shoots money?
There has to be something that works in there.
Reserve my opinion until he brings in an absolute stud.
He's started off nicely this summer, 2 good deals.
If he can bring in Sanchez, Hummels or Vidal he'll have done a terrific job.
If he can bring in Sanchez, Hummels or Vidal he'll have done a terrific job.
for me, if he can miraculously eradicate young, nani, anderson and perhaps a few others from our team, this will forever be known as his greatest summer.
but once again, while we savour and enjoy the wonderful signings of the past two days, we must be relieve ourselves of our burden... the burden of young, nani and anderson.
but once again, while we savour and enjoy the wonderful signings of the past two days, we must be relieve ourselves of our burden... the burden of young, nani and anderson.
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