Woodward (old thread)

Should Studward remain as CE of Manchester United?

  • No - he should be sacked also.

    Votes: 40 22.6%
  • Yes - he should stay.

    Votes: 137 77.4%

  • Total voters
    177
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Not missed at all you pedantic twats :lol: Yes yes we sold him for £2 million and resigned for £1.8 million. In the context of buying people in versus bringing them through the ranks Hughes originally joined us a a nipper, was one of our own, was sold and then brought back at a small profit. Reel your neck in Plugsy.

Wut kind of logic is that ? :confused:

If we sign Ronaldo for 80 million it wouldn't count as a record fee for the club ?
 
Signing players is only one facet of his job. From what we know of the others, he seems to be doing a good job. Yeah, he had a bad summer last time around, but he seems to have learned from that, if the last couple of deals are anything to go by. And yeah, he looks like a ridiculous little hobgoblin, but if he continues in the same vein this summer it'll be hard to complain too much.
 
As I have mentioned in the past, Ed has made mistakes, but he is a quick learner and very flexible. I also think he is the right man to keep a healthy balance between United's traditions (backed Moyes for longer than he should have, made Giggs care taker manager, agreed to Giggs as AM, still trying to fit/keep Butt (and maybe someone else) in the coaching staff, etc.) and modernisation (fired Moyes, hired LvG, broke transfer record for Mata, now Herrera and Shaw, gave record-breaking contract to Rooney, commercial deals, etc.)

I also hope that now finally ppl stop blaming Glazers for a lack of spending. We have always spent money (on transfers and wages) and say what you want about Glazers, but it shows a certain degree of commitment to spend so much on transfers WHILE having no CL income next season (and before ppl claim that they are responsible for the state of our squad, no they are not. They gave SAF and Moyes enough money to at least remain in the top 4, they couldn't have done more here (especially during Moyes' reign who immediately was allowed to first offer more than a player's release clause and then break our transfer record, both in his first season).

My problem with the way MUFC was being run between may 2009 to may 2013 under the last 4 fergie seasons, was? for me the lack of spending in crucial area's, and this had lead to the club becoming stagnated and a time bomb ready to go off, and the 2013/14 it was just a time bomb that finally blew up. Yes we had a team competing for the league title, but united were gambling every season, and it caught up with us under Moyes.

Now this summer is looking really good already, it started with the start of our PL fixtures which looks like a dream start. Now we have signed 2 players that strengthen the weakened area's of the team long term.

In herrera if he does become a fantastic signing, we have a player coming into the best years of his career, not a kid but in the carrick age back in 2006, 24 years old and has all the tools to become a great united midfielder. And the biggest plus, he has great passing skills, and brings that technique and ability to hold onto the ball in crucial area's of the team, has we have lacked that technical player in our engine room. Yes guys like kagwa mata and janazaj possess that, but in the heart of our midfield we have missed that option

Luke shaw 18, but hes already an experienced pro, we have signed the evra replacement, and it gives us the transitional period where evra is slowly passing the torch onto shaw. LB's are hard to find these days, so its a gem we have signed maybe a potential world class fullback. That can defend, and attack very effectively.

Now in the next 3 years, lets hope we can strengthen other area's of the team, I do hope this summer we can sign another CM player, a CB and a wide player. We fill these area's correctly, we have already quickened up the process of the rebuilding job ahead of schedule. And already the age of the team goes down

It is exciting, especially this season with our fixture list, it does help we have brought in players better than what we have got. Now we have time to look at other area's of our team, with time to spear. And this was done with LVG still with the dutch in brazil, that says it all

The biggest worry for our rivals? we have no european football. So already we have no fixture pile up that the rest will receive. And with united hopefully have signed 4 to 5 players that include shaw and herrera, with LVG on board, we could be a dangerous predator. United will only be playing 3 competitions this season, if we include the league cup, so this could be a very promising season for the club, as there looks to be that edge to united again we have not seen since fergie was here
 
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What would people think if this was it, or almost it when it comes to summer transfers? That Ander and Shaw will be our marquee signings and we are not going to spend a big sum on a midfielder anymore.

We have our midfielder, and a leftback, so we only really need a centre back and perhaps a right back. Signing a rb + cb could cost 20 to 30 million, so that makes 66 for Shaw and Herrera + 20-30 = roughly 90-100 million spent.

And it would mean we could start the season with Cleverly, Herrera, Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini and Anderson as our options for CM. Will people consider this to be a good transfer summer if we don't sign anymore midfielders?
 
What would people think if this were it, or almost it when it comes to summer transfers? That Ander and Shaw will be our marquee signings.

We have our midfielder, and a leftback, so we only really need a centre back and perhaps a right back. Signing a rb + cb could cost 20 to 30 million, so that makes 66 for Shaw and Herrera + 20-30 = roughly 90-100 million spent.

And it would mean we would start the season with Cleverly, Herrera, Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini and Anderson as our options for CM. Will people consider this a good transfer summer if we don't sign anymore midfielders?
Anderson needs to be shipped out and we need another midfielder I would think.
 
What would people think if this was it, or almost it when it comes to summer transfers? That Ander and Shaw will be our marquee signings and we are not going to spend a big sum on a midfielder anymore.

We have our midfielder, and a leftback, so we only really need a centre back and perhaps a right back. Signing a rb + cb could cost 20 to 30 million, so that makes 66 for Shaw and Herrera + 20-30 = roughly 90-100 million spent.

And it would mean we could start the season with Cleverly, Herrera, Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini and Anderson as our options for CM. Will people consider this a good transfer summer if we don't sign anymore midfielders?

I don't think we need a RB, a CB is a must though. Rafael will benefit hugely from a solid CB pairing and a DM providing much more protection. I fancy him to shine next season. Let's not forget he's still only 23.
 
I don't think we need a RB, a CB is a must though. Rafael will benefit hugely from a solid CB pairing and a DM providing much more protection. I fancy him to shine next season. Let's not forget he's still only 23.

We need a RB cover, no more Jones/Smalling on the right! But I wouldn't mind giving Varela a chance as defensive cover for Rafael.
 
We need a RB cover, no more Jones/Smalling on the right! But I wouldn't mind giving Varela a chance as defensive cover for Rafael.
I think that this should be a given. Varela isn't a random kid we found in the street, he is a very promising player for whom we paid 1.5m pounds (if I am not mistaken) and who had a very solid U21 World Cup. I would be very disappointed if we don't give him a chance before we decide to sign someone else.
 
No need to buy RB cover when we have Varela/ Janko. Van Gaal is not a manager to chase signings when he can promote and develop someone from within the club. I think Varela suffered a bit because of personal issues and acclimatising from Uruguay to England last season. But he looked quite solid for the reserves as the 2013/ 2014 season progressed and he gained some confidence. This year we'll see why Fergie and the club bought him.
 
A top cb is a must as we have lost 2 senior players in this area..... We cannot rely on our current injury ravaged options...

Wouldn't mind another top cm and that would be a good transfer summer...

Will be interesting to see who will be let go as i would say there could be at least 3 squad players on their way out. Also interesting to see if there are any youth players LVG will want to promote....
 
What's the point of supporting a club that spends it's way to victory, regardless of whether the money was earned or not?

I took pride in supporting a club with a tradition of bringing youth through the ranks, long term planning, etc. Now I'm told that all that was not the norm, and we'll spend our way to success, and so on.

I'm a fan, so I enjoy the success regardless, but it would feel like the cheat code was on while playing a game. Yay for cognitive dissonance I guess.

Just my 2 cents.
Kind of agree. People have always been quite self-righteous when it's come to Chelsea and City, always emphasizing that we did it the right way, the moral way. It's a bit double standards to hail our CEO now for throwing tons of money at the problem.
 
My problem with the way MUFC was being run between may 2009 to may 2013 under the last 4 fergie seasons, was? for me the lack of spending in crucial area's, and this had lead to the club becoming stagnated and a time bomb ready to go off, and the 2013/14 it was just a time bomb that finally blew up. Yes we had a team competing for the league title, but united were gambling every season, and it caught up with us under Moyes.

Now this summer is looking really good already, it started with the start of our PL fixtures which looks like a dream start. Now we have signed 2 players that strengthen the weakened area's of the team long term.

In herrera if he does become a fantastic signing, we have a player coming into the best years of his career, not a kid but in the carrick age back in 2006, 24 years old and has all the tools to become a great united midfielder. And the biggest plus, he has great passing skills, and brings that technique and ability to hold onto the ball in crucial area's of the team, has we have lacked that technical player in our engine room. Yes guys like kagwa mata and janazaj possess that, but in the heart of our midfield we have missed that option

Luke shaw 18, but hes already an experienced pro, we have signed the evra replacement, and it gives us the transitional period where evra is slowly passing the torch onto shaw. LB's are hard to find these days, so its a gem we have signed maybe a potential world class fullback. That can defend, and attack very effectively.

Now in the next 3 years, lets hope we can strengthen other area's of the team, I do hope this summer we can sign another CM player, a CB and a wide player. We fill these area's correctly, we have already quickened up the process of the rebuilding job ahead of schedule. And already the age of the team goes down

It is exciting, especially this season with our fixture list, it does help we have brought in players better than what we have got. Now we have time to look at other area's of our team, with time to spear. And this was done with LVG still with the dutch in brazil, that says it all

The biggest worry for our rivals? we have no european football. So already we have no fixture pile up that the rest will receive. And with united hopefully have signed 4 to 5 players that include shaw and herrera, with LVG on board, we could be a dangerous predator. United will only be playing 3 competitions this season, if we include the league cup, so this could be a very promising season for the club, as there looks to be that edge to united again we have not seen since fergie was here

True, we have stagnated, but surely the "lack of spending in crucial areas" is not down to the Glazers, but to SAF and Moyes, no? It's them who have to define these crucial areas, not the Glazers. I completely refuse to believe the Glazers told SAF "We'll give you the money, but you have to spend 18 mil of it on an average overrated English winger, and you are welcome to spend 24 mil on a 29 year old injury-prone striker, but noway will we allow you to spend it on a good midfielder! Oh and noway will we allow you to pay 6 mil to Hazard's agent, but you are welcome to pay 7 mil for homeless Bebe/to Jorge Mendes."

Same with Moyes, who spent 64 mil on a non-footballer and a No 10. I am glad we got Mata, but 27 mil on Fellaini is not Glazers' fault. Moyes could have decided last season Herrera was worth his release clause and then we could have had him last season. But instead he decided he was not worth it, but strangely Fellaini to him was worth more than his already ridiculous release clause.

This shows that the money was provided, but Moyes and partly SAF since 2011 misspent it.
 
Kind of agree. People have always been quite self-righteous when it's come to Chelsea and City, always emphasizing that we did it the right way, the moral way. It's a bit double standards to hail our CEO now for throwing tons of money at the problem.

You do realize that United started the trend of spending heavily before Chelsea/ City came along ? None of the other English clubs could compete with United's financial muscle in the 90s/ early 2000s. Prevously unheard of figures like the British record fee for Keane, again smashing it for Cole, Stam becoming the most expensive defender in football, 30 million for Veron, Rio becoming the most expensive defender in world football, Ronaldo becoming the 2nd most expensive teenager in football after Cassano. Rooney the most expensive teenager in world football overtaking Cassano. All these records were set by us. As long as the club is financially secure doesn't matter what we spend. People have been self-righteous because Chelsea/ City had started outspending even us. But now with FFP it's our time to spend.
 
True, we have stagnated, but surely the "lack of spending in crucial areas" is not down to the Glazers, but to SAF and Moyes, no? It's them who have to define these crucial areas, not the Glazers. I completely refuse to believe the Glazers told SAF "We'll give you the money, but you have to spend 18 mil of it on an average overrated English winger, and you are welcome to spend 24 mil on a 29 year old injury-prone striker, but noway will we allow you to spend it on a good midfielder! Oh and noway will we allow you to pay 6 mil to Hazard's agent, but you are welcome to pay 7 mil for homeless Bebe/to Jorge Mendes."

Same with Moyes, who spent 64 mil on a non-footballer and a No 10. I am glad we got Mata, but 27 mil on Fellaini is CR7not Glazers' fault. Moyes could have decided last season Herrera was worth his release clause and then we could have had him last season. But instead he decided he was not worth it, but strangely Fellaini to him was worth more than his already ridiculous release clause.

This shows that the money was provided, but Moyes and partly SAF since 2011 misspent it.

I am not fully blaming the glazers, I just said the way MUFC run was a time bomb waiting to go off, either fergie or the glazers. There has been lots of theory's of the CR7 cash, and on why for some mysterious reason why those 4 summers of 2009 to 2012, how fergie never improved the engine room. Some have said, fergie just wanted to do just enough and let the next manager spend the money. Maybe that was true, I still call that a dangerous road to go down, and that proved to be the case under Moyes, where Moyes could not handle a squad needing new players, his only saving grace was signing mata

I do not think the money was being used effectively, the fact herrera is the first proper CM signing since owen hargreaves and anderson says it all, some say fellaini was an out an out CM player, but hes more of a number 10. But still, fellaini could be an effective player off the bench when we decide to throw the kitchen sink
 
Cheer up drummer. Anyone would think David Moyes was still in charge. David Gill was a nobody, compared to Woody the transfer slayer.

I like that.... Woody the transfer slayer....

His backstory could be the great American dream..... He was once the quiet, shy kid in the class who people made fun of.. He makes fnds with the hottest chick in the school and becomes idolised by everybody.... His movie could be called "he's all that"....
 
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You do realize that United started the trend of spending heavily before Chelsea/ City came along ? None of the other English clubs could compete with United's financial muscle in the 90s/ early 2000s. Prevously unheard of figures like the British record fee for Keane, again smashing it for Cole, Stam becoming the most expensive defender in football, 30 million for Veron, Rio becoming the most expensive defender in world football, Ronaldo becoming the 2nd most expensive teenager in football after Cassano. Rooney the most expensive teenager in world football overtaking Cassano. All these records were set by us. As long as the club is financially secure doesn't matter what we spend. People have been self-righteous because Chelsea/ City had started outspending even us. But now with FFP it's our time to spend.

That's not completely accurate...

newcastle, Blackburn and Leeds at differant stages spent huge amounts in the 90s...
 
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That's not completely accurate...

newcastle, Blackburn and Leeds at differant stages spent huge amounts in the 90s...

Fair enough mate that might be 10 % inaccurate but my point is that over an extended period none of them could match us consistently. Neither Blackburn nor Newcastle or Leeds. Even in Europe only the 3 Italian giants and the 2 from Spain could match United's overall expenditure. And now FFP combined with our massive revenue allows the manager or Woodward to spend big (maybe even surpass City or Chelsea) in an effort to rejuvenate the squad. The club is spending it's own money, not through some oligarch or sheikh. If anything this is the least United deserves after a decade of debt repayment.
 
Fair enough mate that might be 10 % inaccurate but my point is that over an extended period none of them could match us consistently. Neither Blackburn nor Newcastle or Leeds. Even in Europe only the 3 Italian giants and the 2 from Spain could match United's overall expenditure. And now FFP combined with our massive revenue allows the manager or Woodward to spend big (maybe even surpass City or Chelsea) in an effort to rejuvenate the squad. The club is spending it's own money, not through some oligarch or sheikh. If anything this is the least United deserves after a decade of debt repayment.

I have been saying it for years that comparable to our success united has underspent since the glazers took over...

Chelsea, city, barca, Madrid and bayern have consistantly spent more then united for sometime. Salarywise we were consistantly 3rd in England up until we signed mata but the wage gap to city is £50mil a year!

Even for a few years Liverpool were outspending us. Even spurs spent the money they got for bale immediately , united failed to reinvest the ronaldo money in the squad....

In England United has consistently been in the top 5 spenders and top 3 wages for sometime, but ferguson had us in number one spot.. In Europe, We were even lower down the pecking order in terms of squad investment and yet we got to three champions league finals !


Ferguson was a genius. The glazers risked destroying the club and caftards defend them simply because the club thrived in spite of their strategy....
 
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No Dave, I'm dead serious, just pull my finger...
 
I like that.... Woody the transfer slayer....

His backstory could be the great American dream..... He was once the quiet, shy kid in the class who people made fun of.. He makes fnds with the hottest chick in the school and becomes idolised by everybody.... His movie could be called "he's all that"....

He doesn't find the hot girls at school, they find him.

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He's still got plenty of work to get through with this United squad before we can consider him a great Chief exec admittedly. He's certainly heading in the right direction, as of yet.
 
I have been saying it for years that comparable to our success united has underspent since the glazers took over...

Chelsea, city, barca, Madrid and bayern have consistantly spent more then united for sometime. Salarywise we were consistantly 3rd in England up until we signed mata but the wage gap to city is £50mil a year!

Even for a few years Liverpool were outspending us. Even spurs spent the money they got for bale immediately , united failed to reinvest the ronaldo money in the squad....

Ferguson was a genius. The glazers risked destroying the club and caftards defend them simply because the club thrived in spite of their strategy....

Exactly mate. The genius of Sir Alex squeezed out and extra 20% from every player to guarantee continued success, even with a few years of budget cuts. Once he left we had to compensate for the loss by spending more because frankly no-one can replace Fergie and his managerial skills. And now that the Glazers are finally letting loose the purse-strings (TBF they did also spend almost 80 million last season on Fellaini, Mata, Zaha and the year before) we should have no reason to complain. Keep the good times rolling ! :D
 
There was no risk with the Glazer's in all honesty. The only 'risk' is if suddenly overnight after 50 years United stopped becoming one of the world's most marrketable sports clubs
 
He doesn't find the hot girls at school, they find him.

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He's still got plenty of work to get through with this United squad before we can consider him a great Chief exec admittedly. He's certainly heading in the right direction, as of yet.

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Yes I too think we shouldnt have signed Shaw due to our failure to do well at Euro 92. We should also send Herrera back. LOL @ Spain. In fact the whole Ferdinand signing was abig mistake. If this was 1966 sure, but 40 years later? Waste of time.

I think we should go for some Nigerians given their strong showng this year

I appreciate your sarcasm mate but the fact is, Ferdinand had come through a great set up at West Ham (and I know Southampton have a good set up too) Rio had a season or 2 in champions league mate....
Its too much for an 18 year old.... But it aint my money so hell to wear.....
 
Exactly mate. The genius of Sir Alex squeezed out and extra 20% from every player to guarantee continued success, even with a few years of budget cuts. Once he left we had to compensate for the loss by spending more because frankly no-one can replace Fergie and his managerial skills. And now that the Glazers are finally letting loose the purse-strings (TBF they did also spend almost 80 million last season on Fellaini, Mata, Zaha and the year before) we should have no reason to complain. Keep the good times rolling ! :D

Let the good times roll indeed..... :)
 
It took time for Obi Wan Kanobi to learn the ways of the force.

Give Woody time and he will soon be a Jedi Master.
 
So close to £100M for Fellaini, Herrera and Shaw. A lot of money, but also necessary investments. We´re in no position to be arrogant anymore and other clubs know this.
 
Ive spent a not insignificant part of the day looking back through some old or long-running threads at conversations I had with people throughout last season, particularly late winter / spring when we were hitting rock bottom. It brings all the misery and pessimism flooding back. Such a stark contrast to how Im feeling now.

Sometimes you need the lows to really appreciate the highs.
 
Ive spent a not insignificant part of the day looking back through some old or long-running threads at conversations I had with people throughout last season, particularly late winter / spring when we were hitting rock bottom. It brings all the misery and pessimism flooding back. Such a stark contrast to how Im feeling now.

Sometimes you need the lows to really appreciate the highs.

I've been doing the same thing.
Last season was the worst for me football-wise, there were times both here and on the pitch it looked like the abyss and now it looks as if we are finally getting back on track.

Can't wait for the new season!
 
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