I understand that it could be like this, really I do, but if it would be that easy, many other people will try it. without a reliable possibility that could happen, you don't go to court. And even if you go, CR can definitely let it to the lawyers hands and if it is not true, the other part has to pay the costs
Woman accuses Cristiano Ronaldo of rape - CR7 case only
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I understand that it could be like this, really I do, but if it would be that easy, many other people will try it. without a reliable possibility that could happen, you don't go to court. And even if you go, CR can definitely let it to the lawyers hands and if it is not true, the other part has to pay the costs
Which is about $1000 to somebody as rich as Ronaldo.
Not saying anything more as you're obviously looking to push things.
If you look at the bottom of the peice, it appears Spiegel wrote an article about this a year and a half ago. What has happened in that year and a half? They also make reference to a document relating to what Ronaldo could have said to his lawyer. I hope that isn't the peice of evidence they are referring to in his article.
fecking hell lad
two things, firstly these things could easily be true or false but the fact he is a high profile person in this current #metoo climate means this shit will stick even if he is innocent. Secondly I genuinely thought the man was gay. I guess he still could be or bisexual.
No lawyer worth their weight in salt would agree to Cristiano signing a document, in the presence of witnesses, that says, "I raped this woman. I am paying her $400,000 in exchange for her silence."
At the very most the document will state her accusation, his vehement denial, and the agreement that causes both parties to go their separate ways.
At the very most the document will state her accusation, his vehement denial, and the agreement that causes both parties to go their separate ways.
To that extent, that surprises me.
Welp, there you go @matherto. It looks you’re not really mixing up anyone as apparently all three were accused around that time.
He obviously had sex with her and even if he shuns alcohol she might have been drunk and that's why he paid her.
Like 100 women with CR. 100 hush money cases then? that makes 30 million
Well. there is a NDA in one side and your is such a good person but I never seen him in person
let leave it on a tie
I think he fecked 100 drunk women. I am truely sure he fecked more than 200. Seriously, if a footballer wants to get laid, is as easy as going to the supermarket. And a deli one.15 years being famous, is roughly 10 girls a year. I don't wanna brag but
I didn't any spin bro. What you said, regardless of what you meant, was crazy. Now if you say you didn't mean it at all, it's all good.
The point is that certain subjects need some extra care when talking about them. Anyway, innocent until proven guilty still works obviously
Didn't Ronaldo pay off his kid's mother so he had 100% access?
Paying off the occasional relationship that's kicked off a bit is no great shake to him, versus having to play the long game.
Well, I'm not in possesion of the truth, I just know the bits that I get access too, like this one from a twitter source of Der Spiegel that got mentioned and translated in reddit.
In the second one (from September 2009) which was send from a lawyer of Osório de Castro's chancellery to Osório and his colleagues, Ronaldo answers the question if she did scream or got loud during sex as followed: "She said stop or no several times. She said that she doesn't want to, but she has made herself available. Afterwards I apologized. But she never screamed."
Maybe the part of "she said no but made herself available" is the loophole that doesn't admit guilt in that NDA, I'm talking in maybes, not certainties.
Wait. So they did get into a sexual intercourse on a mutual consent. And halfway she said no stop?
From another thread.
What does 'she said no but made herself available' even mean?
That is not hush money. Not a NDA. That is paying for a mother to bear your child. He recognize the mother. He recognize her rights and he is buying the those rights.
The hush money is paying of the rights of suing you of being raped in this case. Being true or not, is buying this right
I thought we covered this already. It means no.
But it's probably an awkward translation.
And thats rape if true
Going by Ronald's alleged quotes, that's rape.
X amount of people who lie or exaggerated their me too story doesn't change anything if he himself admitted that she said "no" and "stop" yet kept going.
Apologising afterwards and saying you're not like the others doesn't change what you did.
X amount of people who lie or exaggerated their me too story doesn't change anything if he himself admitted that she said "no" and "stop" yet kept going.
Apologising afterwards and saying you're not like the others doesn't change what you did.
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Oh I knew it meant no, I should've said 'how can someone justify himself with that and think it sounds like a good excuse?'
It's annoying too. not to sound like r/ihavesex but I've been in the situation with someone I was sleeping with on a regular basis, we were utterly hammered and started the usual but then she said no and I immediately backed off and we just went to sleep curled up together instead. It's not hard even when completely off your face to hear the word 'no' and stop. Why do people (more often men) find it so hard not to understand that no means no? Honestly the fact that Ronnie doesn't drink makes this sound even worse.
Remember when some people were adamant he was gay. Hope this allegation is properly investigated by the police.
What Ronaldo allegedly says in that statement is a clear cut admission of rape, which immediately makes me think something must be heavily lost in translation as it would be immensely stupid for him to admit to rape in a NDA? Unless both he and his lawyers somehow didn't understand what rape actually consists of.
Maybe it's the same of "a woman can't rape a man because if he gets erect, that means he's attracted". Wrong ideas in the mind of people regarding physical reactions to the actual desire of doing something.
The nature of sexual relationships is complex, some people are literal when they say no, others have a fantasy of being dominated (both men and women), others can agree to try a certain sexual act but regret it halfway through and ask to stop.
Again, I'm not saying he or she did or didn't do any thing, I'm talking about possible context to all this. Ronaldo might've been in the company of partners that played hard to get but actually enjoyed it, and the girl on a total different page were she didn't want what was happening and was powerless to stop it.
I think he is bi. But only gay? Ffs, all the women that sorrounds him
Arent Cr quotes from some questioning prior the NDA?
In any sort of context it would be a bizzare thing to say unless you are intentionally confessing to rape.
A couple of things I didn't understand from the story.
According to her statement they met in the lobby and went back to his apartment and were both in the bathroom when he attempting to initiate a sexual act were the remainder of his entourage and her friend outside in the jacuzzi and they were the only ones inside? Or were they the only 2 in entire penthouse.
Also there are 2 statements from Ronaldo one in Sep and one in Dec 2009. What's the difference?
According to her statement they met in the lobby and went back to his apartment and were both in the bathroom when he attempting to initiate a sexual act were the remainder of his entourage and her friend outside in the jacuzzi and they were the only ones inside? Or were they the only 2 in entire penthouse.
Also there are 2 statements from Ronaldo one in Sep and one in Dec 2009. What's the difference?
If the quotes are true then he's essentially admitted he raped her in official documentation? But then paid her off to keep hush?
By no means am I saying he did or didn't do anything; but until this document is seen you'd probably assume something had been lost in translation.
Unless as somebody mentioned above, Ronaldo and his lawyers have no understanding of what actually constitutes rape.
By no means am I saying he did or didn't do anything; but until this document is seen you'd probably assume something had been lost in translation.
Unless as somebody mentioned above, Ronaldo and his lawyers have no understanding of what actually constitutes rape.
Didnt she go to the police next day? Also, the report doesnt give a hint on that at all. Also, i would be sure if someone says no if it is hard to get, that the first time, should be established beforehand to avoid thus confusion
They questioned twice. Once the first said it was mutual consent, the second says that she said "no" and "stop" and he didnt. What if true, means he raped her and at the same time he is inconsistent
Some of you people really disgust me.
absolutely. I dont think it will go anywhere. He claim he did not defraud taxes in spain and he was condemned. For the ones that "is such a good guy"
By a very strict and draconian interpretation of the law.
But if she indeed goes to his apartment, getting cozy and naked and ended up being penetrated for a while, while not being restraint and held down. I think that's consensual sex. She might regret it halway or changes her mind but i don't think the male should get a full brunt of being labelled a rapist and jail time.
I mean seriously, you coming to a guy you just met, getting naked and all that. And the guy is called a rapist?
I don't condone rape or any kind, but this sort of things is full of gray
Of course the report doesn't get that deep, I've been saying all this are speculations in my head of what could've happened, because we obviously don't have the big picture anywhere, otherwise this would be ready to judge and Ronaldo waiting for a trial.
I'm not positioning about if it was rape or not, it's not my job to do that thankfully. I'm just saying that even if what Ronaldo committed is proved to be rape, and still deserves a punishment and the woman a retribution, it's not as simple as something binary were he either is an angel of a demon.
If she says no and the guy stops is not rape by all means. If she says no and continues is rape under the law and should be under any decent human being opinion. PERIOD
And that is what it looks happened or he is being accused by the woman and cr seems to be declared back then
Another poster just gave a good example. He started having sex, the girl said no and he stopped. It's not rocket science. You can regret it halfway and ask for the other person to stop.
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