With Jose still in charge - I am NOT looking forward to next season

I'm drawing conclusions about our lack of ability to play football. I don't care about the score at all. We just look like we're fecking playing football for the first time. That's what's bothering me and had been for quite a while. This game means nothing to me apart from the fact that when I watch Man Utd, I expect us to play decent football and it's just not happening, is it? Is that too much to ask?

Evidently so.

I can understand people getting annoyed at posters who expect us to win every match, even pre-seasons friendlies but if we can't even discuss the bloody performance and how we set up, what are we here for? Cheerleading any old shite?
 
I’m done with the man. Not just for today’s score line but just the atmosphere he seems to have instilled to the club. If I had a manager who was always complaining and picking fights with players to “get the best out of them” I wouldn’t be asked either. I’m not a big fan of Klopp but you see the banter he has with his players and they want to play for him. I get the idea Pogba and a few others hate listening to Jose speak. Hell I do

Also I bet after the game he’s going to play the whole “well I told the board I need players” card. Oh Do feck off mate
 
The friendly doesnt matter. You're missing the point. But if you want to talk about anyone losing their shit, dont bring MOurinho up because he's the king of losing his shit over trivial matters.
And yet here you are, going bat shit crazy over a friendly. You're reacting to the game mate. Calm down and have a think about it.
 
Give me a full season when Sir Alex didn't play boring football too. Name me one season.
What? Explain this to me please. I have no idea what you're even asking. Name a season where there wasnt the odd game that was shit?
 
Because it's a pre season game where 80% of our first teamers are missing. You have to be a royal numpty to draw any conclusions from what is effectively a training session. You keep losing your shit though, it's great entertainment!

It's a bit disingenuous to suggest it's just about this game though. If the football had been good for the last couple of years nobody would be fussed about the reserves playing badly on tour.

It's a culmination of shite football for a couple of seasons and lack of signs of improvement in the style. This is of course not helped by the fact that our 2 bitterest rivals have been loving life under managers who insist on highly entertaining, high quality attacking football at all times. Even in preseason with depleted squads they continue to play nice stuff. We produce that....
 
Which is fine. What isn't fine is drawing your conclusions from a pre season friendly with almost all of our first teamers missing. That's just idiotic.
What you seem to be missing, probably on purpose, is that all the frustration isn't based on one pre season match. It's been there for most of last season too. A pre season match is relevant when it does nothing to suggest the shite football we play is going to change any time soon.
 
We had to at least play with some semblance of cohesion or attacking intent to stem the tide of negativity coming out of the club atm. We haven't thus far and we're almost playing like Mourinho is coming across - tetchy, negative and uninspired. If your boss is emitting as much nonsense as this guy is at the moment it's impossible to not be affected as an employee. I'm with him until he leaves us but he's done bugger all to help whatever situation he's been put in. Such a fecking downer!
It’s not comparable to a normal boss as we are only seeing he public, press conference side to him. It seems like the mood within the camp is fairly positive/upbeat which is the most important thing. We have no real idea what’s going on behind the scenes, I find it hard to believe it’s as negative as it is being portrayed.
 
But nobody is doing that though, are they? the concerns that people have didn't originate today, they've always been there.
Yes. Otherwise they wouldn't be flooding this thread now? Or are we to assume it's all just coincidental timing?

Perfectly fine harbouring those opinions. To pretend this game hasnt triggered you is stupid.
 
And yet here you are, going bat shit crazy over a friendly. You're reacting to the game mate. Calm down and have a think about it.
"Bat shit?" I'm sitting on the couch watching old episodes of WWF Raw. This is hardly "going bat shit" is it? Please dont exaggerate just because you're so desperate to defend this shower of a performance.
 
It's a bit disingenuous to suggest it's just about this game though. If the football had been good for the last couple of years nobody would be fussed about the reserves playing badly on tour.

It's a culmination of shite football for a couple of seasons and lack of signs of improvement in the style. This is of course not helped by the fact that our 2 bitterest rivals have been loving life under managers who insist on highly entertaining, high quality attacking football at all times. Even in preseason with depleted squads they continue to play nice stuff. We produce that....
So then why didn't you make these posts yesterday? Or the day before? Why is it you decided to make these posts during and immediately after the game in question?
 
What? Explain this to me please. I have no idea what you're even asking. Name a season where there wasnt the odd game that was shit?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Just because the man won titles, it's forgotten.

Terrible football is an exaggeration for me. We had many entertaining games last season.
 
I'm drawing conclusions about our lack of ability to play football. I don't care about the score at all. We just look like we're fecking playing football for the first time. That's what's bothering me and had been for quite a while. This game means nothing to apart from the fact that when I watch Man Utd, I expect us to play decent football. Is that too much to ask?

The lads out there are not good enough or not ready. Arsenal spanked PSG 5-1 with them missing as many players as us. Is Tuchel In trouble too??

People annoyed now are annoyed at the lads on the pitch either not ready or not good enough.
 
Nice to see this thread getting bumped due to losing a preseason game.
 
Whilst it's just a friendly it's pretty obvious that our core objective remains to simply win the game in front of us.

We as a club should contain an understanding of a method of football we can count on & play never mind the opponent.

That's how we get better unfortunately not by simply trying to accumulate 11 players with extraordinary work rate to scrape through matches.
 
Ok ok ok, let’s get into this. Spurs finished behind us last season, were behind us from day 1 and we beat them at their ground in the FA Cup semis.
They haven’t bought a single new player - still they look stronger than us!?! Based on what exactly? A friendly in the US with basically all of our players missing?
Player for player, they have a far superior defence, a stronger more well balanced midfield, and look far more dangerous going forward. They also set up to their strengths, rather than set up to stopping their opponents strengths, like we do. We played McTominay over Pogba against Sevilla for more defensive cover, do you think Tottenham would drop Alli or Erikson for Harry Winks in the same position?

I haven't watched any of the friendlies. I'm going off what I saw last season. I think 2nd was a false position for us, similar to Arsenal in 15/16.
 
Can guarantee that everyone getting all worked up by the bad result would have also declared the result absolutely meaningless, had we won.
 
What you seem to be missing, probably on purpose, is that all the frustration isn't based on one pre season match. It's been there for most of last season too. A pre season match is relevant when it does nothing to suggest the shite football we play is going to change any time soon.
What you seem to be missing is that this thread has been inactive for over 2 months, and in the space of half an hour it's grown by 2 pages. But people aren't reacting to this meaningless training game though, right?
 
The lads out there are not good enough or not ready. Arsenal spanked PSG 5-1 with them missing as many players as us. Is Tuchel In trouble too??

People annoyed now are annoyed at the lads on the pitch either not ready or not good enough.

I'm not annoyed. Im concerned that we will see more of the football we played last season, which wasn't great.
 
Evidently so.

I can understand people getting annoyed at posters who expect us to win every match, even pre-seasons friendlies but if we can't even discuss the bloody performance and how we set up, what are we here for? Cheerleading any old shite?

I completely agree with your post.
 
I just saw a tweet that I think is pretty fair.

Liverpool, Chelsea and City fans are all looking forward to every game. Arsenal have a new lease of life under Emery. Spurs are optimistic under Pochettino. That's mostly accurate of all their fans.

Ours are massively split, and that is never a good sign.
 
"Bat shit?" I'm sitting on the couch watching old episodes of WWF Raw. This is hardly "going bat shit" is it? Please dont exaggerate just because you're so desperate to defend this shower of a performance.
And spending your time in a thread whining about a pre season game where almost the entirety of our first team are on holiday. If it didn't matter to you, what are you doing here exactly?
 
Yes. Otherwise they wouldn't be flooding this thread now? Or are we to assume it's all just coincidental timing?

Perfectly fine harbouring those opinions. To pretend this game hasnt triggered you is stupid.

They must be waiting in the cave, waiting for the right moment to click post in this thread....Now is the time lads! Thread goes up!
 
Yes. Just because the man won titles, it's forgotten.

Terrible football is an exaggeration for me. We had many entertaining games last season.
I think you miss the point with the Alex Ferguson examples. His default mechanism was to always want his players to express themselves and go for it. It wasnt always amazing football, but 9 times out of 10 that's how we set up. You cant say the same thing about the current manager.
 
You're a glorified troll. Keep it coming.
Repeating what I said, epic bantz. Keep the tears coming. Keep pretending you aren't worked up about a pre season friendly.
 
I'm not annoyed. Im concerned that we will see more of the football we played last season, which wasn't great.

Can’t draw any comparison from this game to the new season because of who is missing.

Majority tonight won’t be even considered for the first team for Leicester. Bayern is the real test I think with a few more back.
 
And spending your time in a thread whining about a pre season game where almost the entirety of our first team are on holiday. If it didn't matter to you, what are you doing here exactly?
You dont seem to know how this "discussion forum" business works do you? Which is stunning for someone with 17,000 posts. I'll stick my thumb up my arse the next time there's a topic worth discussing them. Thanks for the backseat modding.
 
They must be waiting in the cave, waiting for the right moment to click post in this thread....Now is the time lads! Thread goes up!
Nah it's all a coincidence. We just can't see the bigger picture. This game, a friendly involving almost none of our first team, it's a sign for things to come!
 
So then why didn't you make these posts yesterday? Or the day before? Why is it you decided to make these posts during and immediately after the game in question?

You're kidding right?

I've been fairly critical of Jose's football for a while. It's not just after games.
 
Nah it's all a coincidence. We just can't see the bigger picture. This game, a friendly involving almost none of our first team, it's a sign for things to come!

We're going to get relegated. Watch this space.
 
You dont seem to know how this "discussion forum" business works do you? Which is stunning for someone with 17,000 posts. I'll stick my thumb up my arse the next time there's a topic worth discussing them. Thanks for the backseat modding.
Oh I do. I'm allowed to express how utterly ridiculous i feel your reaction is to a pre season game. Maybe you should look it up yourself.

If it stops you from writing absolute nonsense then please don't. I enjoy it too much.
 
Jose is a toxic, miserable cnut. I can't wait until the day he leaves United and I only hope he doesn't set us back too far on the way out.
 
You're kidding right?

I've been fairly critical of Jose's football for a while. It's not just after games.

Maybe someone should make a new thread titled "with Tuchel still in charge, Bayern fans are not looking forward to next season". Prior to that loss vs Arsenal.

Worth of discussion.
 
You're kidding right?

I've been fairly critical of Jose's football for a while. It's not just after games.
And yet here we are. If it has absolutely nothing to do with this game, then you're telling me it's all just a big coincidence, right? Stop kidding yourself.
 
Anyone listening to Jose's interview?

Saluted Bailly for playing while injured today. Apparently his ankle is now very swollen (wtf)

Said Valencia's injury was caused by coming back from holiday out of shape and he's angry with Martial for not coming back to America after the birth of the child. Also suggested that he has a lot of players in the squad that he cannot trust or rely on to be fully focused and ready to play.

He may well be completely right in everything he's saying buy it's still got that 3rd season feel to it imo.
 
Oh I do. I'm allowed to express how utterly ridiculous i feel your reaction is to a pre season game. Maybe you should look it up yourself.

If it stops you from writing absolute nonsense then please don't. I enjoy it too much.
Never said you couldnt post your reaction. Find it hilarious how you think I'm overreacting while telling everyone else how they should act. I never realised you were a mod.