With Jose still in charge - I am NOT looking forward to next season

I know its only pre-season, but my God we're fecking dull under this bloke.
I can't believe we're playing like this. Absolutely no plan, just hold and try to get lucky and score. I really hope we get better with a full team but as it stands it is not looking good. People can say its only pre-season but this is exactly the same football we played last year with a full team.
 
It’s our fecking C team out there lads. Get a grip. It’s shit that it’s a poor result, but we prob had 3 involved who will start against Leicester and a different bench on top of that.

Our second half team on paper was at least as good as Liverpool's. And they looked miles better.
 
Just more of the same dull Mourinho football. We have no idea what to do with the ball and no movement either. Completely incoherent.
 
When our keeper has the ball, he has no one to pass to. When our CBs (all 3 of em) have the ball, they have no one to pass to.

When either have no one to pass to, they hoof it the shortest front duo in history. Who are 30 yards from the nearest midfielder.

Our football is pathetic. I've never heard of half this Liverpool team and they're waltzing through us.

No other major football club lacks any footballing identity. We have nothing, short of buy enough talent to hope out of sheer chance we create a moment of magic.

I'll say it: LVG with this squad would play better football.

Totally agree.
 
There's still no reason not to have a go when they took off their best players. We played to keep the score down against a group of kids. Zero craic. Classic Jose
 
It doesn't matter if it's pre season. We've played like this for 2 fecking years. Klopp made a lot of changes and they're still playing with identity. Where's our identity - constantly being shite on the ball and not knowing how to attack properly?
 
I know its only pre-season, but my God we're fecking dull under this bloke.
Mourinho is finished.
We have a good indication after watching him the last two years. He’s a cnut. Plain and simple.
I can't believe we're playing like this. Absolutely no plan, just hold and try to get lucky and score. I really hope we get better with a full team but as it stands it is not looking good. People can say its only pre-season but this is exactly the same football we played last year with a full team.
Just more of the same dull Mourinho football. We have no idea what to do with the ball and no movement either. Completely incoherent.
:lol:

The Caf always delivers.
 
I'm not judging solely off a crap preseason (which this has been so far), I'm judging off the past two seasons mainly. Although I don't think a crap preseason is ever a good sign for a team's coming season. We could have a side full of our most technical players, and we'd still have 35% or less possession against Liverpool in a match. We can't string passes in our own half together, let alone create chances. Our summer transfer window has been a disaster after a good start (signing Fred and Dalot early). We still aren't using Alexis correctly, and it doesn't seem Jose has any clue on how to fix our attack. Our defense is still the same or worse, and our starting fullbacks are both 33 years old and in decline. There isn't a single reason to look forward to this coming season. Our product on the field is crap, our manager gets more miserable every day, our players don't seem happy, and we haven't fixed our squad issues through the transfer window. Our squad needed a big overhaul this summer and we haven't done it. Meanwhile City have signed Mahrez (when they're already stacked in attack), who is exactly the kind of attacking player we needed on our right wing. I don't know how anyone here can't be extremely worried about the coming season.
 
When our keeper has the ball, he has no one to pass to. When our CBs (all 3 of em) have the ball, they have no one to pass to.

When either have no one to pass to, they hoof it the shortest front duo in history. Who are 30 yards from the nearest midfielder.

Our football is pathetic. I've never heard of half this Liverpool team and they're waltzing through us.

No other major football club lacks any footballing identity. We have nothing, short of buy enough talent to hope out of sheer chance we create a moment of magic.

I'll say it: LVG with this squad would play better football.
LVG would bore us to death too, but at least there was a clear style for how he wanted us to play. It's been two years of Jose and I still haven't got a clue what they do in training. Apart from play table tennis.
 
Our second half team on paper was at least as good as Liverpool's. And they looked miles better.

We were leggy out in the end. Scouse fresher with those extra 2 games played already.

Shit result but come Bayern came that will be a better barometer.
 
Doesn't really matter anyway. If Mourinho can't get more out of the team this season he won't pick up the same points as he did last time - it was pretty well established we punched above our weight in the league. That doesn't keep going forever.

Without an improvement, he's going to get himself into trouble and it won't just be Old Trafford telling him to fcuk off.

I don't care about losing a pre-season game (or about pre-season results in general) but it's pretty disappointing to see that even in a meaningless friendly, Mourinho has the team set up to defend and ultimately see the game out pragmatically. It's completely against the ethos of the club.
 
Ya know, I was so excited after seeing us in pre season last year and the year before, the optimist in me hopes the opposite will be true this time around and we will do well after a shit pre season. My logical side suggests otherwise though...
 
The most boring we have been since Moyes. Van Gaal was at least a clown.
 
Doesn't really matter anyway. If Mourinho can't get more out of the team this season he won't pick up the same points as he did last time - it was pretty well established we punched above our weight in the league. That doesn't keep going forever.

Without an improvement, he's going to get himself into trouble and it won't just be Old Trafford telling him to fcuk off.

He might. The quality of our players means we will continue to beat most of the weaker teams. It just won't be enough to win the league of challenge in Europe. And it will be shit craic
 
Whats so funny about watching your team play like shite? :wenger:
Because it's a pre season game where 80% of our first teamers are missing. You have to be a royal numpty to draw any conclusions from what is effectively a training session. You keep losing your shit though, it's great entertainment!
 
:lol:

The Caf always delivers.
It's fantastic isnt it? Barely an addition to the squad, months of terrible football and now a battering from our hated rivals, albeit in a friendly. Let's all get the lube out.
 
Doesn't really matter anyway. If Mourinho can't get more out of the team this season he won't pick up the same points as he did last time - it was pretty well established we punched above our weight in the league. That doesn't keep going forever.

Without an improvement, he's going to get himself into trouble and it won't just be Old Trafford telling him to fcuk off.

I don't care about losing a pre-season game (or about pre-season results in general) but it's pretty disappointing to see that even in a meaningless friendly, Mourinho has the team set up to defend and ultimately see the game out pragmatically. It's completely against the ethos of the club.

Really? When did that happen?

If anything I thought we underperformed massively in terms of results against teams we should have beaten with poor finishing etc.
 
Don't know what to think of it. It's only pre season, so not going to lose my marbles like some others. What I will say is, there are managers who have been with teams a shorter period than Mourinho, who have been able to put their stamp on the team and implement the kind of style they want.

I watched Sarri's Chelsea today and already saw the same thing he was doing at Chelsea. Same with Emery. Not sure I always get that from Jose, but as I said, it is pre season, we're missing a lot of top players, and we're testing out systems.
 
Really? When did that happen?

If anything I thought we underperformed massively in terms of results against teams we should have beaten with poor finishing etc.

We created the least amount of chances of the top six.
 
It's fantastic isnt it? Barely an addition to the squad, months of terrible football and now a battering from our hated rivals, albeit in a friendly. Let's all get the lube out.
Nah, let's all lose our shit over a training session with 80% of our first teamers still on holiday. Keep up the good work. It's great fun to watch.
 
That doesn’t mean anything if you’re clinical with your chances.

So basically if our strikers score every time we're all set? Yeah that's not going to happen even with Messi.

It's also shite football, which is what annoys people.
 
We were miles away from City last year and we've done nothing to close that gap. In addition to that, our closest rival has strengthened significantly.

It's only normal that people are worried about where we're heading.
Which is fine. What isn't fine is drawing your conclusions from a pre season friendly with almost all of our first teamers missing. That's just idiotic.
 
Really? When did that happen?

If anything I thought we underperformed massively in terms of results against teams we should have beaten with poor finishing etc.

All season.

We underperformed results-wise and wasted chances in 2016/17. Last season we got more than we deserved.
 
Nah, let's all lose our shit over a training session with 80% of our first teamers still on holiday. Keep up the good work. It's great fun to watch.
No, losing our shit would be losing an FA Cup final and then blaming the players. Getting beat of Liverpool in pre-season is just another day at the office sadly.
 
So basically if our strikers score every time we're all set? Yeah that's not going to happen even with Messi.
And yet miraculously, despite you lot telling us repeatedly lt wont last, we still finished comfortably second.
 
Because it's a pre season game where 80% of our first teamers are missing. You have to be a royal numpty to draw any conclusions from what is effectively a training session. You keep losing your shit though, it's great entertainment!

I'm drawing conclusions about our lack of ability to play football. I don't care about the score at all. We just look like we're fecking playing football for the first time. That's what's bothering me and had been for quite a while. This game means nothing to me apart from the fact that when I watch Man Utd, I expect us to play decent football and it's just not happening, is it? Is that too much to ask?
 
It’s madness from Mourinho prioritising centre backs when we need wingers and left back. Does he really want another season of Young and Valencia? Because that’s what it looks like.

We have no width at all. Not really looking forward to the season at all. Assumed we’d have atleast planned what we wanted. One minute we want a left back and the next minute Jose is happy.
 
No, losing our shit would be losing an FA Cup final and then blaming the players. Getting beat of Liverpool in pre-season is just another day at the office sadly.
Or reacting to a friendly like it actually matters. What numpty would do that, eh?
 
Terrible football is exaggeration, desperation and pathetic, really.

Where were you lot when we won against top 6 last season? We played dire football whole last season? laughable exaggeration. Give me a full season when Sir Alex didn't play boring football too. Name me one season.
 
And yet miraculously, despite you lot telling us repeatedly lt wont last, we still finished comfortably second.

Well let's hope it keeps going all the way until next May. Mourinho's going to need it.
 
We had to at least play with some semblance of cohesion or attacking intent to stem the tide of negativity coming out of the club atm. We haven't thus far and we're almost playing like Mourinho is coming across - tetchy, negative and uninspired. If your boss is emitting as much nonsense as this guy is at the moment it's impossible to not be affected as an employee. I'm with him until he leaves us but he's done bugger all to help whatever situation he's been put in. Such a fecking downer!
 
So basically if our strikers score every time we're all set? Yeah that's not going to happen even with Messi.

It's also shite football, which is what annoys people.

Stats are stats but I can recall various games where we dropped stupid points by missing clear obvious chances. We grab those points and we’re a lot closer to a freak City season.

I’m not a Mourinho fan and yeah the football isn’t going to be great but if these players actually perform at their peak levels we can compete, despite the manager.
 
Or reacting to a friendly like it actually matters. What numpty would do that, eh?
The friendly doesnt matter. You're missing the point. But if you want to talk about anyone losing their shit, dont bring MOurinho up because he's the king of losing his shit over trivial matters.
 
I'm drawing conclusions about our lack of ability to play football. I don't care about the score at all. We just look like we're fecking playing football for the first time. That's what's bothering me and had been for quite a while. This game means nothing to me apart from the fact that when I watch Man Utd, I expect us to play decent football and it's just not happening, is it? Is that too much to ask?
That team was playing football together for the first time...

In a pre season? Yes it is. It's sole purpose is to get players match fit and to earn a little dosh. Stop acting like it matters.