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I like Willian a lot but he doesn't score many goals, which is our biggest problem this season.
If this goes through and we don't get another attacker I don't think it would be enough, but then maybe the players we have will simply improve for next season.
Is the speculation with Willian and Talisca all based on Joses comment about having a Brazillian in the squad perhaps?
 
Dec9003 said:
I like Willian a lot but he doesn't score many goals, which is our biggest problem this season.
If this goes through and we don't get another attacker I don't think it would be enough, but then maybe the players we have will simply improve for next season.
Is the speculation with Willian and Talisca all based on Joses comment about having a Brazillian in the squad perhaps?
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That's definitely our #1 problem imo. If our transfer don't result in a dramatic increase of goals then we are not going to move the needle in terms of catching City next year.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
I like Willan but can't we find someone between the age of 25-27?
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closest thing to a Right footed, Hard working, right winger is Felipe Anderson and no one seems to rate him on here. Just like Willian he's a top player who doesn't fit there teams current system
 
Dec9003 said:
I like Willian a lot but he doesn't score many goals, which is our biggest problem this season.
If this goes through and we don't get another attacker I don't think it would be enough, but then maybe the players we have will simply improve for next season.
Is the speculation with Willian and Talisca all based on Joses comment about having a Brazillian in the squad perhaps?
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I guess it would be partly on his ability to get a decent ball into the box, while he may not grab the figures, you have to think he would improve our crossing immeasurably
 
Keyser said:
I guess it would be partly on his ability to get a decent ball into the box, while he may not grab the figures, you have to think he would improve our crossing immeasurably
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That's true, you'd like to think Lukaku inparticular would love having a decent ball in from the right hand side.
Seems to get on well with Jose too, might be less likely to throw a tanty and leave with more of his mates at the club.
 
He'd make more sense as a signing if we played 4231. Usually, in a 433, all three attackers are good goalscorers or creators, with fullbacks providing width and the wide players being inside-forwards. Willian isn't what I'd call a productive player and with there being doubts about Sanchez going into next season, there probably won't be enough goals in that attack. Mahrez makes more sense.
Keyser said:
I guess it would be partly on his ability to get a decent ball into the box, while he may not grab the figures, you have to think he would improve our crossing immeasurably
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Shouldn't that be the fullback's job?
 
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SS said:
He'd make more sense as a signing if we played 4231. Usually, in a 433, all three attackers are good goalscorers or creators, with fullbacks providing with and the wide players being inside-forwards. Willian isn't what I'd call a productive player and with there being doubts about Sanchez going into next season, there might not be enough goals in that attack.

Shouldn't that be the fullback's job?
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It should be either really, be it the winger bombing forward or the FB overlapping. As it stands we have neither
 
I think he is a good player and I believe he ll be good for at least 2 years when playing regularly. If he is there, we should go for it, unless of course we have some other awesome RW lined up (not Bale)
 
Willian puts good balls in if I am not mistaken, which is one of the things we desperately need
 
Wouldn't spend big money on him. Really think he's got flop written all over him.
 
Dec9003 said:
I like Willian a lot but he doesn't score many goals, which is our biggest problem this season.
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Raoul said:
That's definitely our #1 problem imo. If our transfer don't result in a dramatic increase of goals then we are not going to move the needle in terms of catching City next year.
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Yep - in his 5 seasons of PL football, he averages 5 goals per season. Irrespective of what you make of him as a player, those are just thoroughly disappointing numbers.

Alexis currently averages 15.5, which should compensate a respectable amount. But you'd still be looking at him and Lukaku to both hit 20+ - minimum - to get close to what Pool scored, let alone City. We'll need Lingard/new third CM to show up to the table too and continue to trajectory on his tally of 8 this season.

It's possible, I'm just not really convinced at all we'll be managing much more than what we got this season - 68~70 seems about right for us in terms of personnel and tactical system.
 
Dec9003 said:
I like Willian a lot but he doesn't score many goals, which is our biggest problem this season.
If this goes through and we don't get another attacker I don't think it would be enough, but then maybe the players we have will simply improve for next season.
Is the speculation with Willian and Talisca all based on Joses comment about having a Brazillian in the squad perhaps?
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Goal scoring per minute last season:
Willian goal per 235
Sane goal per 258
Eriksen goal per 284
Hazard goal per 224

I don't see an issue with Willan's goal scoring prowess - not to mentioned in an under performing Chelsea side.
 
unitedbhoy said:
Goal scoring per minute last season:
Willian goal per 235
Sane goal per 258
Eriksen goal per 284
Hazard goal per 224

I don't see an issue with Willan's goal scoring prowess - not to mentioned in an under performing Chelsea side.
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Erikson and Hazard are on a different level in terms of creativity and playmaking so it is a bit of an issue.

I've always liked Willian but more as a useful squad player. He's never been a top player and never will be.
 
I don't think I can get excited about any player coming to us as too many seem to fade the minute they arrive at OT. Too often to be a coincidence?
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Erikson and Hazard are on a different level in terms of creativity and playmaking so it is a bit of an issue.

I've always liked Willian but more as a useful squad player. He's never been a top player and never will be.
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Hmmm

Willian assist per 254
Eriksen assist per 306
Hazard assist per 293

Willian has been one of Chelsea's best performing and most consistent player for the past few season imo. Great set piece taker as well.
 
If we sign Willian at 29 years of age we're going to have the problem of several players coming to the end of their careers over the next three years.

Sanches, Matic & Willian, why are we spending big money on players with a short life span, it's really worrying Mourinho plans are so short term.
 
Wouldn't mind him, We've tried signing young players, old players. At this point what's the difference? Martial is rumored to leave, Shaw is rumored to leave, Pogba as well. In fact, after Ronaldo, which young player "made" it at this club? We could keep signing young talented players but if They end up leaving after only 2-3 years at the club, What's the difference between them and old, proven players?

Some of them, which I had high hopes for even had to leave the club because They weren't good enough : Depay, Janujaz, Zaha to name a few. We need a RW. Willian is fantastic at RW. It's a shame none of Martial or Rashford could make this position their own. We're desperate for an actual RW.
 
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I've just read this about this....

"He succeeded with 23 of 62 corner kicks (37%) last season for a Chelsea side who scored more set-piece goals (22) than any other team."

This I believe was the 16/17 season mind but still, someone who can take a corner, very much want.
 
I actually think he is a quality player. Ideally we’d go for someone a bit younger but if none fits the profile, we might as well go for Willian.
 
Is there any truth in this at all or just based on the FA cup final reaction?

I would love him here and he'd instantly be our best attacker alongside Lukaku. He can play RW which is absolutely crucial.

He will be 30 this summer which is a shame, but we can get 2-3 top seasons out of him hopefully and sign younger replacements. The fact is there are very few top wingers available at the moment. If we can get him for £30-40m I'd be very happy.
 
Good player, better than what we have on the right. Will create plenty for Lukaku and co.
 
Mourinho is only going after former Chelsea players because there are not enough top players out there in the market? So he goes to the tried and trusted players. This year's transfer window there is a lack of outstanding talents in the positions that Mourinho wants to enhance.

I won't be surprised if Mourinho tries to bring in Costa as a back up to Lukaku (as Zlatan has left).

This summer's world cup will delay 80% of our inbound transfers because the usual rhetoric of 'wanting to focus on the world cup, and we will see after' being said by our targeted players. This could be a silver lining considering in many World/European championships there always seems to be 4-5 players that shine and come completely from left field. This is when Mourinho/Man utd can pounce.
 
Devil81 said:
If we sign Willian at 29 years of age we're going to have the problem of several players coming to the end of their careers over the next three years.

Sanches, Matic & Willian, why are we spending big money on players with a short life span, it's really worrying Mourinho plans are so short term.
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It could just as easily be three, four and five years. That’s one player per season replaced by a young project and added into a peak core of Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Lukaku, Rashford and Martial.

Is it just me or is this a relatively new thing where people panic about having to make signings every three years?
 
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Would improve any team in the league, hope we get him. We need more consistent threats from out-wide and he provides that.
 
He'll provide much needed width to a team with too many wide players who's natural instinct is to cut inside. This should allow us to better stretch defences causing more gaps to attack in channels.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
It could just as easily be three, four and five years. That’s one player per season replaced by a young project and added into a peak core of Bailly, Lindelof, Lukaku, Rashford and Martial.

Is it just me or is this a relatively new thing where people panic about having to make signings every three years?
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Agree completly

Modern phenomenon, Daddy Daddy want want and players break immediately when they hit 30

If we get Willian then maybe next year Pulisic or Kluivert will be ready to come in and learn, but we need results and trophies now, not in 3 years
 
DownRiver said:
Mourinho is only going after former Chelsea players because there are not enough top players out there in the market? So he goes to the tried and trusted players. This year's transfer window there is a lack of outstanding talents in the positions that Mourinho wants to enhance.

I won't be surprised if Mourinho tries to bring in Costa as a back up to Lukaku (as Zlatan has left).

This summer's world cup will delay 80% of our inbound transfers because the usual rhetoric of 'wanting to focus on the world cup, and we will see after' being said by our targeted players. This could be a silver lining considering in many World/European championships there always seems to be 4-5 players that shine and come completely from left field. This is when Mourinho/Man utd can pounce.
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You would've thought with Jorge Mendes he would be more creative in the transfer market than go for the old and trusted players....who will be next John Terry!
 
Sigma said:
His attitude in the 2015/16 season was impeccable.

Hit attitude this season has also been pretty good, he's been a consistent performer in an inconsistent Chelsea. Although I agree that Instagram post was unprofessional.
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True but that instagram post was enough for their plebs to want him out, saying that they think they are getting Martial in return though.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
It could just as easily be three, four and five years. That’s one player per season replaced by a young project and added into a peak core of Bailly, Lindelof, Lukaku, Rashford and Martial.

Is it just me or is this a relatively new thing where people panic about having to make signings every three years?
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theres no patience these days, its heightened by the fact LFC will soon be six times la and City won the league.
 
cyberman said:
We are second! Did we get there with LVG boys or what?
This is the problem with the amount of work the squad needed. Almost every signing has to be on the button.
Look at Liverpool. Salah, Mane and then its VVD that's a success in two summers? Karius maybe? The we are down to their Scottish fullback etc.
Who has 8 successes in two summers? Its almost impossible.
Half of that is a very good rate.
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Was going to say along the same lines. I'm sure you could do similar for all teams, even Lord Pep. Bravo, Nolito anyone?
 
Ramshock said:
Willian is a good player but Im not sure about his attitude after all this Conte stuff.
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It is a little off, but on the other hand he was the absolute stand-out of Chelsea players back in Jose's last season with them. Basically the only player in that entire team who tried his heart out right to the end, while everybody else around him gave up or just couldn't get going.

I like Willian, but I would prefer Mahrez.
 
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