Willian | Signed for Chelsea

Suarez or benzema might be available
Something about falcao and tax suggests he might be available
They are all a bit unlikley though... perhaps eto
As an outside bet ibrahimovic rarely stays put for long
But I think you will end up with rooney


Falcao wont be
Suarez is a liability
Benzema, if hes available thats a possibility.
Eto- past it
Ibra- not convinced.
 
I dont buy the notion of buying him so Spurs couldnt have him. Spurs aren't exactly our title rivals are they? Taking Soldado off of them would have made more sense, you know, a striker!


Then why buy a player you have zero need for? You are already struggling to give your AM's minutes. It's utterly bizarre.
 
Suarez or benzema might be available
Something about falcao and tax suggests he might be available
They are all a bit unlikley though... perhaps eto
As an outside bet ibrahimovic rarely stays put for long
But I think you will end up with rooney

Falcao wont be
Suarez is a liability
Benzema, if hes available thats a possibility.
Eto- past it
Ibra- not convinced.


These are some of the worst poems I've ever read.
 
Then why buy a player you have zero need for? You are already struggling to give your AM's minutes. It's utterly bizarre.


Beats me, but buying him so Spurs dont get him makes even less sense.

The only possible reason I could think of is that Jose really does not rate Mata and that the swap for Rooney is actually true. Seems bizarre he wouldnt rate Mata, but he did seem off colour against Villa.
 
It was a bit weird, he had the opportunity to bury the Mata not flavour-of-the-month rumour in the presser but wasn't convincing (on purpose).
 
Can anyone, anywhere suggest what it is about Mata he may not be a fan of compared to the likes of Schrulle,De Bruyne, Willian and Hazard?
 
Could only be tracking back/defending or something to do with that. But I havent seen enough of some of your options to suggest they do more than Mata...
 
Tottenham also feel that Willian had no say in the transfer, that it was down purely to Abramovich, Kerimov and the player's advisers. Mourinho already has an abundance of options for the positions behind the striker, in the form of Eden Hazard, Oscar, André Schürrle, Juan Mata, Kevin De Bruyne and Victor Moses, and this has only increased the sense at Tottenham that Willian is not really needed at Chelsea.

The bad blood between the clubs was evident two summers ago, when Levy refused to sell Luka Modric to Chelsea in the face of a £40m offer and the midfielder's desire to go. Abramovich does not like Levy, while there is friction between Mourinho and Villas-Boas. They worked together at Porto, Chelsea and Internazionale but the relationship has soured. Their rivalry this season will be intense.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/tottenham-chelsea-willian

Fight, fight, fight!
 
Or Jose may actually rate the player the club was interested in before he returned. I have a feeling, he isn't too fond of Moses, so that can be a nice upgrade.


maybe. but you have signed two players he clearly didnt sanction the moves for. My own personal feeling is that Abramovich is still running the show and mourinho was prepared to swallow his pride because he knows he can do no wrong at chelsea. if it all goes bad he can just leave again and blame the owners while the fans lap it up
 
Can anyone, anywhere suggest what it is about Mata he may not be a fan of compared to the likes of Schrulle,De Bruyne, Willian and Hazard?


Perhaps he thinks Mata is a bit too luxury? The others maybe he thinks run around more and get stuck in a bit more? I dunno. Seems ridiculous to me too, Moureen's not an idiot I'm sure he can see how good Mata is.
 
I'd guess it has to do with his adaptability and mobility on the pitch. When compared to the current crop and someone like Rooney, mata doesn't seem as interchangeable as the rest. Mourinho might want a front four that's constantly rotating positions.
 
I have a horrible feeling this means Mata is off to United for Rooney. If I'm right, both won't play on Monday which will confirm it. Praying I'm wrong.
 
Can anyone, anywhere suggest what it is about Mata he may not be a fan of compared to the likes of Schrulle,De Bruyne, Willian and Hazard?
He may just not like him as an individual, makes life difficult in a smallish team (I've been on both ends - best to move on).
 
There hasn't been a "peep" out of Glaston since Thursday. He has been viewing, but has stayed silent. :D

Is it me, or does he only post when he is feeling particularly smug or sanctimonious? I would have thought he would have been venting his feelings on how the nasty Russian bought a player off a nutty Russian and how a player he said was not going to leave this summer has been sold to a club that he said didn't have the money for him. :cool:
 
There hasn't been a "peep" out of Glaston since Thursday. He has been viewing, but has stayed silent. :D

Is it me, or does he only post when he is feeling particularly smug or sanctimonious? I would have thought he would have been venting his feelings on how the nasty Russian bought a player off a nutty Russian and how a player he said was not going to leave this summer has been sold to a club that he said didn't have the money for him. :cool:
Well Bale 'won't go' has gone up in spectacular flames as has 'Willian throwing dice with Lamela' on what position they occupy. Let him lick his wounds on Thursdays (when no-one's looking).
 
It just seems odd to be getting rid of such a likable and talented player such as Mata willingly, even if it is for a player in a position we need more. That being said like with United ans SAF sometimes you have to accept what the master says is usually right. If Jose doesn;t think Mata will bring us success then hes probably right.
 
Yeah, he's been your best player both of the years he's been there, during which time you won the champions league, fa cup and uefa cup. If that's not success, what is?
 
It just seems odd to be getting rid of such a likable and talented player such as Mata willingly, even if it is for a player in a position we need more. That being said like with United ans SAF sometimes you have to accept what the master says is usually right. If Jose doesn;t think Mata will bring us success then hes probably right.


That's crap. SAF sold Stam for non footballing reasons and that was a mistake, to rectify which we had to buy Rio for record fee.
 
If you're trying to equate the selling of Stam with the buying of Ferdinand it must be one of the most spectacularly brilliant calls in the history of football management.
 
Mata is great and a lot quicker than most think. If memory serves me correct, he had 20 goals and 30+ assists last season. Our attackers would flourish with him in the side.
 
Amazing how Chelsea barged in within a matter of hours and landed this lad.

Excerpt from the Beeb site:

"The 25-year-old Brazilian was close to joining Tottenham after having a medical on Wednesday.
But it is understood Chelsea made their move at around 18:00 BST on Thursday, with a fee and personal terms agreed within 24 hours."
 
I'd guess it has to do with his adaptability and mobility on the pitch. When compared to the current crop and someone like Rooney, mata doesn't seem as interchangeable as the rest. Mourinho might want a front four that's constantly rotating positions.

Mata is the one who has played all positions, from striker in his first season at Valencia, then his next years at Valencia as a top winger and then his final season and time at Chelsea as a 2nd striker/in the hole.
 
I just dont see what striker we are going to get if we dont get Rooney that is an improvement on what we have.

We have 2 mediocre strikers and 1 excellent prospect. Personally I now think we should go with Lukaku and ditch Ba/Torres. With Ba we seem to resort to lumping it over to him, which negates the effect Osmatard has on the game. Torres either plays well and scores a couple or does feck all, mostly feck all. Sticking with Lukaku is our best option at present.

Who else are we going to bring in which represents a significant improvement over those?

Totally agree. Play Lukaku - the kid is more than good enough. Young players usually pay you back when you show good faith in them, and he's going to have the best support given to him in the league.

It's not like he'd be relied on for all the goals either.

I reckon you'll play him against us, and that'll be the start.. he'll play plenty of games for you this season. Although Mourinho buys ready-made players a lot, he doesn't get as much credit as he deserves for showing faith in youngsters if he feels they are worth it.
 
Watching some of his youtube clips I am impressed, normally is he really that good?
 
Maybe Mourinho wants to get rid of all Spanish players after his unhappy reign at Real.

Ok just kidding....
 
Amazing how Chelsea barged in within a matter of hours and landed this lad.

Excerpt from the Beeb site:

"The 25-year-old Brazilian was close to joining Tottenham after having a medical on Wednesday.
But it is understood Chelsea made their move at around 18:00 BST on Thursday, with a fee and personal terms agreed within 24 hours."
You mean it doesn't take 10 days to prepare a bid??
 
how good a player is william? and how come chelsea can buy all the fecking midfielders in the world and we can't? do chelsea need william??
 
It just seems odd to be getting rid of such a likable and talented player such as Mata willingly, even if it is for a player in a position we need more. That being said like with United ans SAF sometimes you have to accept what the master says is usually right. If Jose doesn;t think Mata will bring us success then hes probably right.
I disagree with your last line. Jose clearly doesn't know best if he is willing to ship off Mata. Just look how pivotal he is in your attack, his goals and assist last season prove it. I'd welcome Mata to Old Trafford and I think you will miss his presence if you let him go.
 
It just seems odd to be getting rid of such a likable and talented player such as Mata willingly, even if it is for a player in a position we need more. That being said like with United ans SAF sometimes you have to accept what the master says is usually right. If Jose doesn;t think Mata will bring us success then hes probably right.

The only time Sir Alex has done anything like that is when he sold Stam, and he admitted it was wrong (and a little spiteful). The rest - Beckham, van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo etc. - all left because they wanted to. Willian + Rooney for Mata will surely improve the team on the whole but it's not a very clever move, we can all see that.