Yes but he said he goes only for the asking price which I believe is €45 million
William Carvalho
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No one will pay 45 Euros for him. Even he knows it.
I'm actually more disappointed that United have supposedly ended this than the Vidal race 
After we signed Fellaini for £27.5M, Ed has gave himself a reputation of being a crap negotiator, I can see him sitting there offering a fiver with a snickers bar and the other club saying £100M, Ed agrees on £101M and thinks his come out strong.
But the thought was that they'd lowered the asking price.
Ha! Hahaha! Ha! More!
I'm actually more disappointed that United have supposedly ended this than the Vidal race
Between Vidal's knee and the fact Carvalho's 5 years younger, I'm inclined to agree.
I think that's sound reasoning. I'd be pushing it with Ed seeing his track record so far. 27m for Fellaini. Paying Nani's wages in full and 16m for Rojo. 27m for a teenager at LB. Yeah I'd try my hand.
If it's Man Utd knocking at the door they'll want the usual 50-100% uplift.
They know full well we'll pay that come Monday night if we haven't signed anyone. Fellaini was close to €40m wasn't he?
I thought he looked excellent in that game too. There was a period where he seemed to hoover up the ball any time it can remotely close to him. I didn't see the Ghana match.
If there's a buy-out clause, then surely is just a question of woodie waiting for it to expire?
The comparison to Fellaini is misplaced. Fellaini was playing in the Premier League and despite all the bashing that he gets he is a very useful player when played as a 10. He just doesn't fit in our system.
Carvalho on the other hand is in a weaker league. Has played only 30 odd games for Sporting. Yes he has potential but he isn't exactly world class or even Prem proven to command that fee. There is a reason many clubs have balked at that price.It is simply too risky to sign a player for that high a fee purely on potential.
Yup just like Fellaini, his buyout clause was £23M (correct me if I'm wrong) and Ed waited for it to expire and paid £27.5M
Yes lets just ignore the fact that Moyes actually knew about it and still decided to go ahead and wait it out before deciding on buying him.
Is this off lads?
I see Vidal thread has finally dead. Depression..
I see Vidal thread has finally dead. Depression..
This... Vidal...Is this off lads?
I see Vidal thread has finally dead. Depression..
Right all off to the de Jong thread... Its on
LVG strongly hinted on Thursday that more players may be coming in by Monday night. So if we're not getting Carvalho who are we getting? Who else is on our radar?
Song or De Jong?
That Lucas Silva lad from Cruzeiro, back ups he can always turn to in De Jong and Blind. Herrera popped out of no where so we just have to wait and something will come up I guess. I'm not convinced the Carvalho one is dead yet.
Is the guy any good?
He's known to go missing in games.
Havent really seen anything that would suggest either Vidal or Carvalho deals are definitely dead.
Vidal's tweet only said he was at 100% strength and ready to start the championship. Nothing definitive considering an accepted bid would change everything.
Vidal's tweet only said he was at 100% strength and ready to start the championship. Nothing definitive considering an accepted bid would change everything.
We dont need one of those!
Think he's our B plan.....
If it's the same setup as LVG who in the press conference said that he identifies the player he wants in/out the Ed does the business side of it. It's more then likely that it was the same as when Moyes was in charge, regardless of who was at fault Fellaini was not worth £27.5M and my personally opinion is he was never a player of UTD's standard.
I think Ed has over paid for every deal he has done and u can't see him stopping, his like a child in a sweet shop with a "unlimited budget"
But usually with buy out clauses you pay the full fee up front no negotiations.
Even if we paid £4m the deferral of the fee over a few years may have been worth it.
Or we may just have thought we would get someone better and Fellani was a last resort.
He seems quite static, Carrick-esque. Players in his mould should not be played in a midfield of two.
There is a lot of midfielders better than those two. Not really a factor which should decide if we want a player or not.
Agreed.
We have not seen a true 4-3-3 yet, but I agree- it seems we will eventually play in that formation. Just pointing out that 4-2-3-1 won’t work for him IMO.
From what I’ve seen and heard, he is a typical DM, his main attribute is positioning and braking up play. A little bit like Carrick, but his passing is worse.
I might be wrong about him, but my point stands: he will be under enormous pressure if he comes and we desperately need finished article in midfield.
Again, I’m not saying he will fail here, I’m just having doubts about him.
So is this one dead in the water yet? Shame as I would have quite liked him here.
Was between him and Strootman due to Vidal not being possible it seems
LVG going for blind until Strootman available. Blind will probably be happy to be a squad player too, whereas if we signed carvallho Strootman would never have happened
LVG going for blind until Strootman available. Blind will probably be happy to be a squad player too, whereas if we signed carvallho Strootman would never have happened
seems like it. Maybe no one has a clue, would liek him here too. But probably too expensive.
I think this is what is happening.
Can't decide whether we need another CM or a CB most.
CDM?
Hope for it. Get it done. He would be an instant hit.
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