I really hope this isn't another situation where we start to dither over a signing only for him to sign for someone else and become a revelation.
Get it done! (Assuming it hasn't already)
Get it done! (Assuming it hasn't already)
William Carvalho
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
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It's frustrating because there are good potential national team players coming up being blocked by players that are not national team quality like the Josue's Michael's and Almeida's and he will always have an excuse to not call them up as you said before Josue is on the bench at Porto Adrien has been one of the stars in the league ..but do you want to guess who will be called up ?
I think this is a real possibility. The kid is that good. He is worshipped in the Sporting Forum and like i said, he is up there with the best talents our academy has produced. He will have a great career, just question of knowing where he will move. But with Moyes getting sacked (if he was the major reason behind the Carvalho interest), i won´t be surprised if you guys have to see him flourish in another club. It´s a know fact that Moyes has been following the portuguese league for years. He just couldn´t finalize deals because he didn´t have the financial power. Just this month (before he was sacked) he was at the Benfica vs Porto match.
I feel this and Shaw are the done deals. The rest? your guess is as good as anyone else.
A new coach will suggest his players...but with the WC...a lot of work has to be done early.
The rest? I was under the impression we only had two deals lined up?
all the other names mentioned..Kroos, Reus for example.
I see our targets for this window like this. Must get: two CMs (preferably one of them a DM like Carvalho) and a LB. Bonus targets: a direct, pacy winger, some back-up potential at RB/CB, and finally to offload some squad weight - Ando, Ferdinand, (Giggs and Vidic already seem sure things), Young and maybe even Fellaini if we're ruthless.
If you were right, and Shaw and Carvalho were already basically sorted, that would be an incredible start to the window. One more top CM and we'd have done all the important work, and anything else would be a bonus.
If you were right, and Shaw and Carvalho were already basically sorted, that would be an incredible start to the window. One more top CM and we'd have done all the important work, and anything else would be a bonus.
Lets be greedy on both wings...Reus and either Sanchez or Pedro. I still think Adnan should be used sparingly and if anything I see his future more in the Bergkamp position.
Nah I think that would be excessive. I see no reason to deliberately block Januzaj's progress in the name of 'using him sparingly', and besides we're likely to be always using at least one of those 'wide' positions to accommodate one of our creative AMs like Mata and Kagawa. One effective direct winger like Reus to take the place that has been swapped between Valencia, Nani and Young (all of whom have been disappointing to different degrees) is more than enough reinforcement in that area.
If we start to buy expensive players for positions where we already have a superb, promising youngster from our own youth set-up, we're really no better than City.
With both Van Gaal and the Dutch football association keen to avoid outside distractions prior to the World Cup finals, it is understood that the coach wants to hone his recruitment plans with Woodward before the start of the Hoenderloo training camp.
United have been working on a list of potential summer signings since the turn of the year, with Moyes identifying several targets which have been pursued by Woodward.
Discussions have been held with representatives of Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos, Southampton full-back Luke Shaw, Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho and Paris St-Germain forward Edinson Cavani, while Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas is another player on United’s radar.
Van Gaal is aware of United’s targets and, while he may also pursue Borussia Dortmund defender Mats Hummels, he is believed to be happy with the target list drawn up by Moyes.
Perhaps significantly, the representatives of some of the players on United’s list have been told that moves may accelerate next week having been placed on hold since Moyes’s departure.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-within-days-ahead-of-World-Cup-finals.html
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United have been working on a list of potential summer signings since the turn of the year, with Moyes identifying several targets which have been pursued by Woodward.
Discussions have been held with representatives of Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos, Southampton full-back Luke Shaw, Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho and Paris St-Germain forward Edinson Cavani, while Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas is another player on United’s radar.
Van Gaal is aware of United’s targets and, while he may also pursue Borussia Dortmund defender Mats Hummels, he is believed to be happy with the target list drawn up by Moyes.
Perhaps significantly, the representatives of some of the players on United’s list have been told that moves may accelerate next week having been placed on hold since Moyes’s departure.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-within-days-ahead-of-World-Cup-finals.html
I'm happy
If Barca refuse to talk about Cesc, throw everything on Koke.
Carvalho-Koke... This is just too exciting not to make it happen.
Carvalho-Koke... This is just too exciting not to make it happen.
We really look like throwing huge amounts of money this summer on some fantastic signings. What with the World Cup, new manager signings and pre-season...and 3 matches under Giggs...the new season has already started for me
First of all, brilliant to finally have some Sporting fans in here! My team in Portugal due to family connections.
Secondly, make this happen Woody. I think he'd be a monster for us.
Secondly, make this happen Woody. I think he'd be a monster for us.
Party pooper incoming!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...eek--with-ran-giggs-on-his-staff-9309080.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...eek--with-ran-giggs-on-his-staff-9309080.html
Real Madrid are stacked with holding midfielders. Two around the age of Carvalho (Casemiro and illarramendhi). It would be as asanine as our interest In Cavani if he moves there.
Khedira, Modric, Xabi Alonso, Illaramendi and he wants to add another 40m€ player in this group? I don't think so. But it's Real Madrid we're talking here ...
I would question Carvalho's intelligence if he opted for such a move. A promising midfielder coming to United is being afforded a chance like no other: to be the main man, or one of them, at least.
It's good to read our reporters all name-checking him however, which is a good indication that he is still very much on the agenda.
It's good to read our reporters all name-checking him however, which is a good indication that he is still very much on the agenda.
If he impresses at the world cup, no fecks will be given and they'll go all out to get him. They bought Ozil a year after spending nearly £60m on Kaka.
Ancelotti is wise to prefer Pogba, and that isn't a criticism on Carvalho. I just hope it does end up like that, so everyone wins.
A 12m€ transfer in a position where they didn't have a backup for Kaka. Not really comparable to a 40m€ transfer. I think they'll concentrate on Suarez this summer.
What Madrid wants, they get. This is especially true when it involves agent Jorge Mendez. We can scratch Carvalho off the potential transfer list. He is not coming.
thank you this is a great forum and United have always been a team that i have watched consistently over the years .....and its good to have two different fan bases trading opinionsindeed. a big welcome to the Sporting fans on here
He seems a very smart Lad who does not focus on the Media to much and focuses more on his football.....where we have had other players Bruma to name the most recent who focused on other things then his football....as i have said before i think he will go to the EPL it is a league he is made for and i have a strong feeling he will be going to United let it be this year or next
I'd be surprised if Real Madrid go for Carvalho. They already have Casemiro and Illarramendi for the future whilst having Khedira, Modric, and Alonso as the present options. If Perez does get Carvalho, though, I wouldn't mind us getting Casemiro.
He seems a very smart Lad who does not focus on the Media to much and focuses more on his football.....where we have had other players Bruma to name the most recent who focused on other things then his football....as i have said before i think he will go to the EPL it is a league he is made for and i have a strong feeling he will be going to United let it be this year or next
I enjoy reading your and Sly's opinions on the Portugese league. A different perspective is always welcome
How is Casemiro? Never seen him play. Also will not surprise me if Perez does go for Carvalho. When has having talented players stopped him for going after the current flavor of the monh?
I've never seen him play, but I've read a couple of scouting reports on him, and he's a very well-rounded midfielder. He's defensively sound, a good passer of the ball with some creativity, and he's decent going forward. Apparently, Mourinho saw him as a future replacement for Khedira according to one scouting report.
Then again, his main issue during his earlier years (i.e. during his Sao Paulo time) was that he had a bad attitude and that he was already a big player. However, ever since his transfer to Real Madrid, his ego's been suppressed by the other big egos at that club, so his head is, apparently, put on straight. I'd love to see what someone who's watched him say.
In regards to your second point, yeah, Perez may go for it, but I doubt he would just dive in if Carvalho isn't a big name who can sell shirts like C. Ronaldo or Bale could.
a little potential unfortunate news for United fans ( depending on what you make of it )
in an interview today our president has stated that he is almost absolutely certain William Carvalho will not be sold in the summer and will be at Sporting next season he said the only way he sees William leaving in the summer is if a team pays his buyout clause in that case there is nothing he can do
potentially big blow for United if true but on the other side potentially fantastic news for Sporting and the fans that they get to keep their best player
in an interview today our president has stated that he is almost absolutely certain William Carvalho will not be sold in the summer and will be at Sporting next season he said the only way he sees William leaving in the summer is if a team pays his buyout clause in that case there is nothing he can do
potentially big blow for United if true but on the other side potentially fantastic news for Sporting and the fans that they get to keep their best player
Not surprised to see these Carvalho to Madrid rumours come out at the same time Sportings President claims they'll only sell if a buyout clause is met. Usual negotiating tactics. United should just leak a bunch of rumours about Vidal or Khedira to make it out as if we'll just go after other targets if we don't see value.
What's the buyout clause meant to be?
£37.5m. Sporting will not budge a bit. Pay it or do one.
We won't get him for less than £30m whatever we do anyway so why not just pay his buyout clause. £37.5m right? He's 22, he could be a monstrous player for us for a decade.
It is a big fee for a player who has only really broken through this season.
Not questioning his ability though as he is clearly a player built for the toughness of them Prem.
That being said, I know the likes of Sporting do not need to spend, but would they really reject 28-30m for him though? It is a lot of money, and a team in that league could improve a lot with them sort of funds
Not questioning his ability though as he is clearly a player built for the toughness of them Prem.
That being said, I know the likes of Sporting do not need to spend, but would they really reject 28-30m for him though? It is a lot of money, and a team in that league could improve a lot with them sort of funds
£37m is a lot for someone who has only played at Portuguese level. It's not like he's done it in the champions league with Lisbon. Up to him though to take that into the World Cup.
Surely the president saying they won't sell for anything less than the release clause is to be expected. The same has happened with Kroos. If either club are prepared to sell, it isn't exactly wise to admit this if you want the best price possible!
I'm not sure of any examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure others can name some examples of presidents declaring there is no chance of a player leaving, only for them to leave for a high fee that window.
I'm not sure of any examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure others can name some examples of presidents declaring there is no chance of a player leaving, only for them to leave for a high fee that window.
I find myself judging everything in Fellaini money these days, that's maybe why I don't baulk at that fee.
I'm pretty sure I remember Sao Paulo's president say that they would only sell Lucas Moura for his release clause (which was something like £80 million) and less than a year later he moved for less than half that. What is said in the public does not necessary reflect what is the case behind closed doors.
Saf saying we wouldn't sell a virus to real madrid in 2009. £80m latter…
I really don´t know if it is a negotiation tactic or if Sporting´s President really means it. Along with the Champions League money, we will probably sell our Goalkeeper Rui Patrício for a big fee, Capel for about 7 millions and possibly our Argentinian internacional Rojo if he has a good world cup. It´s really hard to tell what can possibly happen with Carvalho. What i do know is, if someone pays the release clause there is nothing we can do. That´s the only certain scenery.
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