William Carvalho

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Can you please get the guy who sold Moutinho to Porto for half that fee back so we can buy Carvalho from him instead?
Hahahah believe me if our past president or presidents had been in charge of Sporting now William would be sold for 10M I have no doubt about that ...we have a very good president now who is a great negotiator ( thank god ) ;)
 
Ramires has been terrible this season for them. Can't pass, can't shoot, is a foul machine, and has been suspended for like 8 matches this season. You can understand why they'd be shopping him around. I heard a rumor that Juventus are the ones who want him.

I agree with a poster above, Carvalho doesn't really look like the kind of midfielder they'd be after. They have their powerhouse DM in Matic. They need a more creative player. On the other hand, Matic is an excellent passer and doesn't mind going forward at all. As it has been mentioned, Carvalho does look like a Mourinho player.
A Matic/Carvalho pairing would be an enormous problem for opposition sides to deal with.

The only enormous headache I found was that they will be hard to break down, in particular in a conservative system. Beside that, the pairing is unbalanced. They are basically the same type of players that would need a creative or box to box midfielder to complement their ability. Anyone that has seen Carvalho play knows that to get the best of out him, he would need a more mobile partner, not a player that would shadow his positioning.



The strikers pushing high up and Carrick sitting deep as f*ck would prevent that though. The space between Carrick and the forwards was massive under Moyes, his main remit was to spread the ball wide. We predominantly played down the flanks. Statistically we are the team that has played the smallest % through the middle in the league. That wasn't coincidence.

I was at OT on Saturday and one of the first things I said to my dad was that the shackles were off Carrick. He was pushing up and making those passes and it was reminiscent of his 2012/13 performances. He clearly wasn't able or comfortable enough to venture too far under Moyes, often sitting ridiculously deep and was involved in our general passing game far less.

It would be strange if Carrick adhere strongly to Moyes philosophy of wide play without using his own discretion towards what is better for the team. Even if Carrick sits deep and the strikers played high, Carrick is capable of opening up the field of play with his range passing as we saw countless time last season in particular when he set up Hernandez for his goal against Chelsea. I believe Carrick is getting too comfortable and he needs some form of competition to reignite his performance.
 
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Not really. It is unbalanced. They are basically the same type of players that would need a creative or box to box midfielder to complement their ability. Anyone that has seen Carvalho play knows that to get the best of out him, he would need a more mobile partner, not a player that would shadow his positioning.

That's what Adrien is for him at Sporting ...I have said plenty times I would love to see a Strootman/Carvalho partnership I think that would work fantastically
 
Will he be a starter for Portugal?
I'm almost certain the midfield might be William Veloso and Moutinho ....Side note ( it's a full Sporting youth academy midfield ;) )
 
I'm almost certain the midfield might be William Veloso and Moutinho ....Side note ( it's a full Sporting youth academy midfield ;) )

I think Meireles will be there instead of Veloso. The deciding factor in picking the midfield against Germany will be the tactical approach. Since i think we will adopt a more defensive stance, it makes more sense to have Carvalho as Dm rather than Veloso. His physical power, tackling ability, tactical discipline and positioning will be essencial in the game against Germany.
 
That's what Adrien is for him at Sporting ...I have said plenty times I would love to see a Strootman/Carvalho partnership I think that would work fantastically

That would be a great partnership. Strootman is a box to box, creative player. He may not be energetic, but he would not shadow Carvalho and allow him space to keep things tidy and progressive in the midfield.

How do you think a kroos and Carvalho partnership would do?
 
Any chance to get him for 20 million only + 5 million bonus?

In my eye. He's currently a 15 million until 20 million worth. His level isn't above 25 million yet. Unless I see something from him during world cup.

No chance and i already explained why. We only have 60% of his rights, so it would be a bad deal for a player with his potencial and that is attracting this much interest. We have him tied to a secure contract, so the negotiations will be on our terms. From what i´ve seen and if he has a good world cup, 25 to 30 million plus addons, would be the correct estimative. Like i have said, there are players that are destined to have great careers and i think this is the case with Carvalho. I´ve seen my fair share of our Academy prospects evolve over the years and Carvalho is up there with the best. I don´t want us to get ripped off like we were with Ronaldo.
It´s a question of take it or leave it. If you leave it, no problem, he stays another year, helps Sporting and proves himself in Champions League, which will be a better measurement of his value along with the World Cup. After that, it won´t be as easy to get him.
 
I'm almost certain the midfield might be William Veloso and Moutinho ....Side note ( it's a full Sporting youth academy midfield ;) )

Why we never went for him I will never know! But at the same time why Moutinho isn't playing in one of the bigger leagues I will never know!
 
No chance and i already explained why. We only have 60% of his rights, so it would be a bad deal for a player with his potencial and that is attracting this much interest. We have him tied to a secure contract, so the negotiations will be on our terms. From what i´ve seen and if he has a good world cup, 25 to 30 million plus addons, would be the correct estimative. Like i have said, there are players that are destined to have great careers and i think this is the case with Carvalho. I´ve seen my fair share of our Academy prospects evolve over the years and Carvalho is up there with the best. I don´t want us to get ripped off like we were with Ronaldo.
It´s a question of take it or leave it. If you leave it, no problem, he stays another year, helps Sporting and proves himself in Champions League, which will be a better measurement of his value along with the World Cup. After that, it won´t be as easy to get him.

That's our problem low balling teams , if it was me, I would go straight in with 30 million, Do you personally reckon that would be the best option ?
We really cannot afford to miss out on this young man.
 
Not only transfer muppets will go on a riot spree if we won't make an effort to sign this guy.

Another summer without taking opportunities may demolish Wooden Ed's reputation that he's clearly want to repair and establish at some point.
 
That's our problem low balling teams , if it was me, I would go straight in with 30 million, Do you personally reckon that would be the best option ?
We really cannot afford to miss out on this young man.

I honestly don´t know. This is a World Cup year and he will probably be a starter. If he does well it will increase the interest and the value. The current circunstancies make it difficult to know what a good deal would be. In football terms, he has a great potencial, comes off a great season where he will probably be the player of the year in Portugal and is a Portuguese internacional that will play in the World Cup. Financial terms, we only have 60% of the rights, which limitates our possible income but he has a long term contract that leaves us in a good position. For Sporting (unless someone pays the clause) the wise thing to do, would be to wait for the end of the World Cup. It´s a better policy negotiation wise.
 
Why? Because he left Sporting to join a league rival or other reasons?
 
I think Meireles will be there instead of Veloso. The deciding factor in picking the midfield against Germany will be the tactical approach. Since i think we will adopt a more defensive stance, it makes more sense to have Carvalho as Dm rather than Veloso. His physical power, tackling ability, tactical discipline and positioning will be essencial in the game against Germany.
I agree I'm certain William and Moutinho will start the question is the other midfield I would prefer Veloso he is a better player then Raul
 
Why? Because he left Sporting to join a league rival or other reasons?
He was our club captain since he was 18 second youngest ever in our history a player born and bread and Sporing and the way he acted as disrespected the club that gave him everything is unreal he had options to go play in the epl I think United Everton and Spurs were really interested and he opted to join to one of our main rivals for less money and he was the captain and showed no respect saying Porto is his home And he was rooting for them .... I will never doubt his quality as a player But I have no respect for the man
 
I agree I'm certain William and Moutinho will start the question is the other midfield I would prefer Veloso he is a better player then Raul

Yeah but Meireles is a Paulo Bento fetiche. He always plays. I like Veloso but for that specific position Meireles is better suited. Miguel Veloso plays better in Carvalho´s position but Carvalho is a much better player, so he obviously loses the DM spot.
 
He is now not at Porto anymore :smirk:

Well, I totally understand the view of you Sporting fans, I would be the same if a United player did it! Even I was disappointed that he left Sporting to join the mighty Porto! Should have gone to England or Spain!
 
That's our problem low balling teams , if it was me, I would go straight in with 30 million, Do you personally reckon that would be the best option ?
We really cannot afford to miss out on this young man.
Sporting won't even listen to offers until after the World Cup I reckon
 
Yeah but Meireles is a Paulo Bento fetiche. He always plays. I like Veloso but for that specific position Meireles is better suited. Miguel Veloso plays better in Carvalho´s position but Carvalho is a much better player, so he obviously loses the DM spot.
That's a problem with bento there are better players then meireles
 
He is now not at Porto anymore :smirk:

Well, I totally understand the view of you Sporting fans, I would be the same if a United player did it! Even I was disappointed that he left Sporting to join the mighty Porto! Should have gone to England or Spain!
He played over 200 games for the club that gave him everything and then did that haha it was a bad summer for Sporting fans
 
That would be a great partnership. Strootman is a box to box, creative player. He may not be energetic, but he would not shadow Carvalho and allow him space to keep things tidy and progressive in the midfield.

How do you think a kroos and Carvalho partnership would do?
I think a Strootman And Carvalho partnership would work better but I reckon Kroos and Carvalho would also be a good partnership Carvalho would allow Kroos a lot of time on the ball which could be deadly
 
Do we have a good chance of getting him you reckon?
I think United are definite favorites to get William Carvalho and I think that when he does leave Sporting let it be this year or next ( I'm hoping next ) it will be to United
 
That's a problem with bento there are better players then meireles

Paulo Bento always picks the same and will obviously go with the core from the qualifying stages. To be fair, Meireles plays at a decent level in our national team. He just struggles physically after the 60/65 min mark. Our problems aren´t in that zone of the midfield. Our problems are in the striker/winger department.
 
I think United are definite favorites to get William Carvalho and I think that when he does leave Sporting let it be this year or next ( I'm hoping next ) it will be to United

Were favourites in Moyes days. Let´s see if they follow up with the interest after the sacking. You can´t say at the moment who is favourite or not. The rumours are daily. First it was United, then Real Madrid, then Arsenal, Inter and now Chelsea. You can´t possibly call that without inside info.
 
Paulo Bento always picks the same and will obviously go with the core from the qualifying stages. To be fair, Meireles plays at a decent level in our national team. He just struggles physically after the 60/65 min mark. Our problems aren´t in that zone of the midfield. Our problems are in the striker/winger department.
Yea I agree but I think he calls up players that he favors not who deserves to be there like Josue and Ruben Michael ( god knows why ) are constantly getting called up when they are not national team level while Adrien Silva has a fantastic season his best in his career and never got a chance as for wingers we had Bruma an an option but he got injured now we have quaresma as an option but he is very very temperamental...as for strikers that has always been a problem
 
Were favourites in Moyes days. Let´s see if they follow up with the interest after the sacking. You can´t say at the moment who is favourite or not. The rumours are daily. First it was United, then Real Madrid, then Arsenal, Inter and now Chelsea. You can´t possibly call that without inside info.
Yea I understand that but that's why I said I think ..personally I feel he will go to United but like you said no one knows
 
Yea I agree but I think we calls up players that he favors not who deserves to be there like Josue and Ruben Michael ( god knows why ) are constantly getting called up when they are not national team level while Adrien Silva has a fantastic season his best in his career and never got a chance as for wingers we had Bruma an an option but he got injured now we have quaresma as an option but he is very very temperamental...as for strikers that has always been a problem

Agreed about Adrien Silva. Paulo Bento can´t possible call Josué. It would be a scandal. He doesn´t play at Porto at all. Ruben Micael spent more than half of the season injured. He doesn´t offer garantees. Bruma would definitely be in the World Cup if he stayed at Sporting. Specially with his ability and with the stable season we had. He made his money based choice. Even without the injury i doubt he would called since Mancini wasn´t playing him that much.
 
Yea I understand that but that's why I said I think ..personally I feel he will go to United but like you said no one knows

Oh i agree with that. If he were to leave (i´d prefer if he stayed and played in the Champions League with us), i´d like for him to join United. Emocionally wise, I have a soft spot for United and i would love to follow his career at this club and in this forum. Football wise i also think that he would fit very well at United and with a possible Carrick mentoring. I also think he would fit very well at Arsenal but i don´t think Wenger follows the portuguese market with the detail he follows the french league (although he has sent scouts to Carvalho´s games also).
 
Agreed about Adrien Silva. Paulo Bento can´t possible call Josué. It would be a scandal. He doesn´t play at Porto at all. Ruben Micael spent more than half of the season injured. He doesn´t offer garantees. Bruma would definitely be in the World Cup if he stayed at Sporting. Specially with his ability and with the stable season we had. He made his money based choice. Even without the injury i doubt he would called since Mancini wasn´t playing him that much.
If Adrien Silva does not get called up it will be as you said a scandal it is nothing more then he deserves for the fantastic season he had ...Bruma if stayed at Sporting would have developed very well and been a great option for the World Cup but he was tricked by his agents ...and another one which I think you would agree is unfair is if Ivan Cavaleiro who has played in the B team most of the season will be called up over Mane ...I don't think Mane is ready for the World Cup at all but if Ivan gets called up over Mane it won't make sense ...then their is the whole Cedric and Andre Almeida thing ( but I won't bring that up ) it's well known Bento is a benfiquista
 
Oh i agree with that. If he were to leave (i´d prefer if he stayed and played in the Champions League with us), i´d like for him to join United. Emocionally wise, I have a soft spot for United and i would love to follow his career at this club and in this forum. Football wise i also think that he would fit very well at United and with a possible Carrick mentoring. I also think he would fit very well at Arsenal but i don´t think Wenger follows the portuguese market with the detail he follows the french league (although he has sent scouts to Carvalho´s games also).
He would fit vey well at Arsenal but I prefer him moving to United
 
If Adrien Silva does not get called up it will be as you said a scandal it is nothing more then he deserves for the fantastic season he had ...Bruma if stayed at Sporting would have developed very well and been a great option for the World Cup but he was tricked by his agents ...and another one which I think you would agree is unfair is if Ivan Cavaleiro who has played in the B team most of the season will be called up over Mane ...I don't think Mane is ready for the World Cup at all but if Ivan gets called up over Mane it won't make sense ...then their is the whole Cedric and Andre Almeida thing ( but I won't bring that up ) it's well known Bento is a benfiquista

No way Cavaleiro is called for the World Cup. He was just called for that friendly test (where he failed nevertheless). Mané was never called and will miss this World Cup but i´d be willing to bet that he will be there for the next tournaments after establishing himself in our team. Cedric is a much better full back than Almeida but Bento will use the versatility "alibi" to call the Benfica player. Bentolas is that predictable.
 
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