Will Bruno achieve legend status at utd?

This guy is the only guy in this squad who could play in a top side, he's a top level footballer who is always fit, delivers every single season and runs his socks off. Just remember that next time he moans on the pitch after carrying this lot.
 
Zlatan was quality, to be fair. When we first signed Bruno, I wouldn't have expected him to end up being miles ahead of Zlatan as our best post-Fergie signing.
I liked Zlatan too, shame that injury finished him. Bruno has been the best of a bad bunch no doubt and deserves credit for his output and fitness he has shown.
 
Not really something to brag about given the dross that have played for us.
It's not, but he would have fit in any of Sir Alex's teams. Wouldn't have been captain, but he's easily good enough to play during any of those eras. He's unlucky that he's been surrounded by terrible players.
 
A player who shines mainly because of the truckload of mediocrity around him.

He has been good for us in patches - but don't throw the "legend" term so casually.
 
Some absolute clowns around here saying we'd be higher up in the table without him. :rolleyes:
 
A player who shines mainly because of the truckload of mediocrity around him.

He has been good for us in patches - but don't throw the "legend" term so casually.
Wait, so you think he wouldn't shine as much if he had better players around him?
 
If anyone will be remembered since 2013, it’s surely Bruno.
People remember Three-lung-Park, they remember Macheda. Even Bebe is a player many people remember. That alone isn't getting you there. I agree with the other poster. Bruno is certainly the best player for a long time. But this period will be a period that many fans will want to forget and skip over.
 
Of all of the horrendous purchases we've made over the years, he is one of the few we've got right.
 
I don't think you can be a legend at Man Utd unless you win multiple trophies.

I don't see how he could get it.
 
He is, definitely. Look if he wasn't here god knows where United would have finished these last few years.

I get it, he's frustrated the life outa me at times too. But every great player will. And every legend.

You remember the moments, game winning, performance inducing times...and he does it like any legend I've seen here. He's just unlucky that the clubs been in turmoil the whole time. Without him feck knows where we would be standing now.
 
I don't think you can be a legend at Man Utd unless you win multiple trophies.

I don't see how he could get it.
Talk to any Utd supporter who has supported Utd for a long time and try and tell them Martin Buchan isnt a Utd legend. He only won 1 trophy at Utd but was one of our greatest captains.
Trophies arent what make players legends, their impact and contributions to the team are.
 
A player who shines mainly because of the truckload of mediocrity around him.

He has been good for us in patches - but don't throw the "legend" term so casually.

Take a look to see how many midfielders have more than 28 G+A this season.
 
Take a look to see how many midfielders have more than 28 G+A this season.
As I wrote before, he has been very good for us in patches.

Patches - between matches and within matches.

I am not saying he has been bad - very good in patches - and he has appeared to be the best United player in many, many matches simply because of the enormity of mediocrity around him.

Very good in patches - definitely yes.
Legend - no.

Unless of course you'd want to throw the legend term too casually, which is what has increasingly happened in football.
 
It's not, but he would have fit in any of Sir Alex's teams. Wouldn't have been captain, but he's easily good enough to play during any of those eras. He's unlucky that he's been surrounded by terrible players.
Not sure about that, Fergie never really played with no 10s. He couldn't play in the 90s/00's in a midfield 2 (and he's not as good as Keane/Scholes anyway) , maybe in the latter years he could have played in Park's position in the midfield 3,but even then he wouldn't be able to do the role Park was asked to do.

Bruno has had every team built around him and has been given the license to do what he wants on the pitch, he wouldn't get that same level of freedom in a Fergie team as we had better attackers than him, so his output would be reduced, his bottom level is pretty bad too so if he's not playing well and not assisting and scoring regularly he doesn't have much else to offer.
 
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What universe are you living in? They only have one Premier League Title. If they win it again this year, that makes it 2.

(And once again, Gerrard had 0. So he’s a league bottler)

Ah, so football started in 1992? That’s fortunate for us.

So City are historically the second most successful team in England and far more successful than Liverpool. Bit scary they are only a few leagues away from being more successful than us though eh?
 
Ah, so football started in 1992? That’s fortunate for us.

So City are historically the second most successful team in England and far more successful than Liverpool. Bit scary they are only a few leagues away from being more successful than us though eh?
Yes, if that makes you happy. As long as Liverpool is beneath.
 
Whenever I casually chat with rival fans in person, most without prompt say they would love to have Bruno in their side.
 
I think every "legend" has their moment/moments where they go from simply a world class player to a legend.

Cantona had loads of them. Specifically inspiring the team to win the league in 93.

Keane had Juve in 99.

Ole had the final in 99.

Robson had Barca in 84.

I think if Fernandes leads us to a Europa League triumph and scores a couple more goals in the process, he gets to that status.
 
I think every "legend" has their moment/moments where they go from simply a world class player to a legend.

Cantona had loads of them. Specifically inspiring the team to win the league in 93.

Keane had Juve in 99.

Ole had the final in 99.

Robson had Barca in 84.

I think if Fernandes leads us to a Europa League triumph and scores a couple more goals in the process, he gets to that status.
This is fair if we accept we need different expectations these days, though it all depends on if you have such a wide range of legends (like Ole is a legend but he's not in the same league as Cantona for example).

In the post SAF years if we win Europa it will be our most 'successful' period from ETH through to Amorim (cup every year for 3 years) with a nice progression of importance League Cup > FA Cup > Europa. Obviously a big 'if' re winning this year. But I think it shows the importance of trophies re the status of players at the club, I think many would argue he's a legend if we can win it this year.
 
Does anyone know wtf was wrong with him at the start of the season? First 5 or 6 games he was our worst player and a lot of us were thinking we should have sold him.

Glad we didn't. Phenomenal player.
 
People remember Three-lung-Park, they remember Macheda. Even Bebe is a player many people remember. That alone isn't getting you there. I agree with the other poster. Bruno is certainly the best player for a long time. But this period will be a period that many fans will want to forget and skip over.
Maybe so, but I think Bruno will be one of the names fondly remembered.
 
Absolute scenes when Ruben and the boys achieve Mission 21 in 2028 and Bruno signs off his Utd career with a Prem title and club legend status.
 
Talk to any Utd supporter who has supported Utd for a long time and try and tell them Martin Buchan isnt a Utd legend. He only won 1 trophy at Utd but was one of our greatest captains.
Trophies arent what make players legends, their impact and contributions to the team are.
To you. Which is fine. But there isn't a general definition for it. And additionally: Aren't Buchan and Robson rather the exception than the rule? We have to keep in mind, that supporters are from very different agegroups. Another poster told me that he learned about a few legends via his grandfather. I personally have no connection to some of the names. I don't know Buchan, so he'll never be a legend in the way Scholes or Rooney are. Not because they were better, but because it is more tangible what they did and achieved.
Not sure about that, Fergie never really played with no 10s. He couldn't play in the 90s/00's in a midfield 2 (and he's not as good as Keane/Scholes anyway) , maybe in the latter years he could have played in Park's position in the midfield 3,but even then he wouldn't be able to do the role Park was asked to do.

Bruno has had every team built around him and has been given the license to do what he wants on the pitch, he wouldn't get that same level of freedom in a Fergie team as we had better attackers than him, so his output would be reduced, his bottom level is pretty bad too so if he's not playing well and not assisting and scoring regularly he doesn't have much else to offer.
Think it is safe to say that SAF would have had a few ideas how to make use of him. Think, he'd be a fine second striker back then as well.
Maybe so, but I think Bruno will be one of the names fondly remembered.
Oh no doubt about it. I'd never argue against that. But for me, and seemingly a few others, that isn't enough to be considered a legend.
 
To you. Which is fine. But there isn't a general definition for it. And additionally: Aren't Buchan and Robson rather the exception than the rule? We have to keep in mind, that supporters are from very different agegroups. Another poster told me that he learned about a few legends via his grandfather. I personally have no connection to some of the names. I don't know Buchan, so he'll never be a legend in the way Scholes or Rooney are. Not because they were better, but because it is more tangible what they did and achieved.

Think it is safe to say that SAF would have had a few ideas how to make use of him. Think, he'd be a fine second striker back then as well.

Oh no doubt about it. I'd never argue against that. But for me, and seemingly a few others, that isn't enough to be considered a legend.
Legends relate to history. You cant dismiss a player you didnt know because your perception isnt as clear as other players were.
To me Buchan was a legend as was Duncan Edwards. I never saw Duncan Edwards play but his place in our history is very clear. Same deal with Sandy Turnbull, I never saw him play either. Just because you never saw a player play doesnt diminish their place in the clubs history or their status. Sandy Turnbull was a Utd legend, history and the people who saw him play show that. In 50 years time you will be arguing from my position when you hear younger fans applying a standard to their generations players but forgetting football existed before 2025