So you basically telling me that you only read posts of posters that say Bruno is good and reply to those saying he is not good.
It is for sure the majority. I'd go as far as saying 92-95% of posts.
There are plenty of fans in here that dont think he is any good, let alone overhype.
Certainly not as many as the ones that praise him for everything he does. But I guess, this is where the struggles come from - because every fan who isn't as enthusiastic as you, Pickle, Gabriel and Scanid is already on the black list for you. There is a lot of room between "he is shit", "he is decent", "he is good", "he is very good" and "he already is a legend for me". Honestly, to me it looks like a perception issue - you are somewhere between "very good" and "legend" and everybody who is below that is already seen as a hater who is only one post with a particular choice of words away to get the label from you.
Go look at his numbers since he has joined us before saying he is overhyped and overrated.
I do. I am in this thread and his predecessors for a long time mate. I know his numbers. All of them. And I'd say he is a very good player, probably worldclass in total, certainly the best player at United for a few years and still overhyped by some of his fans, see the list above.
There are (key passes, chances created, ground covered, pass accuracy etc) but whenever anyone brings these up in his favour some people find a way to devalue them too (spammer, headless chicken etc). Basically, you're looking for a metric that will prove your preconceived notion that Bruno is overrated and want to ignore everything that suggests otherwise.
Pass accuracy?
Again paranoia. I have never questioned his number of goals and assist. Never ground covered, never chances created. I questioned his "3rd best in recoveries" as they don't fit his fbref but I guess, thats just the agenda in me right? Only explanation. There are other numbers for a midfielder. These days for example everything connected to carries. This is a missing piece in Brunos skillset. Does this make him a bad player. No of course not but it is an issue for a midfielder, if you like it or not. His defensive numbers are also decent at best (based on fbref) - same thing, he still remains a great player and crazily important to us. But he isn't perfect, has never been un-upgradable per se. Thats my standpoint. Imagine, this is what you consider as hate towards the player.
Yes, it is. You said: 'Fecking Lindelof would probably be a fan favorite and play on a regular basis, no matter how bad of a defender he is, as long as he pops up with a goal here and there. For some keypasses even would probably be sufficient.' Do you genuinely think that if Lindelof scored the odd goal but continued as a remedial defender, people would give him a pass? It's total nonsense and something that you exaggerated for effect...
It isn't mate. The point I made wasn't even in reflection to Bruno even though I admit, placing it in this thread made it easy to be misinterpreted. So first: you are wrong. Just look at a lot of mentions of McTominay in the last few years, in part still to this day. They are proof that subpar players will get by when they contribute with goals. If you think, this would be different with Lindelof, I'll have to live with that I guess, but I don't see any difference between him and McTominay.
Secondly, this effect, obviously to a very different extent, is in play with Bruno too. He is a source of goals and assists for us, which elevates his meaning by a lot and it propels an individual performance for a lot of fans (understandibly). For the last 2-3 years he became more or less the only dangerous piece of the team, another factor, that probably increases this effect even further. We need him to come up with those numbers, there is no doubt about it and when he delivers the way he does, then he is obviously the most important player for the rest of the season. But none of that makes him the perfect central midfielder to me.
He thinks that Bruno only gives G/A and key passes..
Yeah thats what it is. Not sure how many posts I wrote about my position towards him and what things I appreciate about the player. But I only see G/A and keypasses. That must be it.
Bruno has so many different qualities to offer, yet his haters will say oh its only because he spams passes he gets numbers.
He is a leader of this team, speak to any team mate and they will speak glowingly of Bruno.
Speak to any United manager in last 4 years, Bruno is no.1 in the team sheet. Every time a new manager comes in, there are winners and losers in the squad, Bruno is the only constant.
When a new manager comes in, people always talk about X,Y, Z wont get in the team, Bruno wont fit in Ten Hag's system, he wont fit in Amorim's system. We wont win any trophy with Bruno.. All those have been proven to be false… the fans continue to move the goal post. Its now, we wont win PL/Cl with Bruno.
Its always about what we cant do with Bruno… never what can we do.
Speak to any United manager in last 4 years, Bruno is no.1 in the team sheet. Every time a new manager comes in, there are winners and losers in the squad, Bruno is the only constant.
When a new manager comes in, people always talk about X,Y, Z wont get in the team, Bruno wont fit in Ten Hag's system, he wont fit in Amorim's system.
You can write those things as often as you want (you do already, the "no.1 on the team sheet" is even twice in this single post), the point doesn't get more significance by repetition. Bruno could be 1000 times better than the other United players, as long as we don't play against replicants those comparisons don't help us.
