Agreed
Roger Byrne is our greatest full back and was captain of ‘The Busby Babe’s’ who my Grandad always said was only behind Bryan Robson and possibly Roy Keane as our greatest captain, was always told Byrne was a proper leader of men.
Thanks for the infos. I am not from England so that might contribute to me not knowing those two. Would you say though, that there is still a gap in between players like Charlton or Law and those two? Because I hear them being talked about a lot during commentary here and there while the two guys you mentioned seem to fly under the radar a bit. Maybe thats where we differ, for me legend is an "absolute state", you are either in it or not in it and it is the highest echelon without some tiers in it. I can see a differentiation between "legend" and "club legend" but thats about it.
All fair points of course. Out of interest and without wanting to derail this valuable thread - did his 2nd stint change anything about your viewpoint on that?
Boring, petty and pathetic
This is just cherry picking stats now, under Sir Alex he started 80% of PL games, that's hardly 'often sub'. Half of those games listed weren't even 'big' games at the time (Spurs, City (were still up and coming), Arsenal were going throughout their joke Wenger period). In the CL he started 58 out of 62 times including finals, he also started FA and League cup finals. You must not have actually watched us during that period, he was a key player for Sir Alex and the only proper and consistent CM we had.
Hearts?
C'mon man!
Had season ticket…Remember Anderson/Cleverley etc….Him not being particularly rated by fans.
I mean in the press, in public.. outside of the games. Inside the games, yeah it does my head in.
A lot of your criteria is what I categorize into "great player" rather than legend. In fact I kind of feel I only have at most 3 players per position I might call a Legend , maybe 4 in some like forwards
This is a good point. In this era of player power, where so many of them are doing unsanctioned interviews, or posting cryptic messages on social media, Bruno's attitude off the pitch is second to none.
Now you are comparing Cleverly and Anderson to Carrick
. Yeah the facts have all been laid out so let's leave it there.I don't believe this for a second. Calling bullshit.
He's a brilliant player and in a more settled, all-round better team, he'd be even more impactful.
W16 w3105 row 20…But look at you doing the same thing you do. Pathetic.
Jesus…you dumb. I referred to period under SAF where Carrick was dropped for Anderson, Cleverly.Now you are comparing Cleverly and Anderson to Carrick
I’d say that Byrne, Edwards and Taylor were the initial three United legends but because they didn’t achieve the success the next three in Charlton, Law and Best did due to their passing those three are often overlooked or more likely forgotten about due to how long ago their time at United was, if I’m honest I wouldn’t have known a lot about them if not for my Grandad who was the one who got me into loving United.
Honestly shocking that you haven't noticed the, what feels like the 15th thing where the guy is outstanding in. Watch it mate, people displaying the wrong amount of praise aren't well liked around here.
No doubt. Who wouldn't love a club that makes one the highest paid employee as soon as it is wanted. A club, where one is never in question, undoubtedly the best player and had all freedom in the world for the majority of the time.
Fair points. I don't think of Palace when I think of Cantona. For me it was the start of United and for United he was the catalyst for Ferguson's transformation into a powerhouse. Also helps how unique and charismatic he is. We moan a lot about ex-players talking about United. Nobody moans when Cantona opens his mouth or simply looks at you through the screen.
I'm not 100% sure what point you're trying to make here, as you've never been able to master sarcasm. However if you're complaining about how you've just read the 15th latest attribute that Bruno has been praised for, then I would suggest re-reading one of your posts from yesterday where you bemoaned that the two thirds of this thread apparently consists of "different people repeating the same praise over and over again".
All this proves is that you can name random blocks/rows. Nothing else. Pathetic.
Well you seem to know little about Carrick.
It's projecting unhappiness at other things in their life. It's really weird to be so hateful and personal about people who play football and you've never spoken to.
Honestly I think he might have been one of them in our 09/10-11/12 team. He’s an incredibly hard worker, very talented and also you forget better players are lifted up by better players. He’s essentially the standard barer in our team. But he would have been held to a higher standard.
