Probably because without City teams won't be able to hide behind anyone and pass off top four as a roaring success the way we see currently.
Why aren't the other teams in the Premier League rallying to have City ousted?
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City won the three trophies last season and all the titles before since the Abu Dhabi takeover with money the club had not earned.
They systematically overstated their income and understated their expenses to show that the club had earned what was reported on the bottom line.
This is fundamentally different to other infringements other clubs may have committed.
Why they are up in arms.
Of course City have an army of lawyers to defend their position. The FA needs to prove their charges which were brought mid last season.
It may take all of this season or even longer.
But the FA will be proven correct in the end.
They would not have made those 115 charges frivolously.
They systematically overstated their income and understated their expenses to show that the club had earned what was reported on the bottom line.
This is fundamentally different to other infringements other clubs may have committed.
Why they are up in arms.
Of course City have an army of lawyers to defend their position. The FA needs to prove their charges which were brought mid last season.
It may take all of this season or even longer.
But the FA will be proven correct in the end.
They would not have made those 115 charges frivolously.
Spent some time in the Barcelona thread today, and what a ride that was!
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Exactly how it should be. Why aren't clubs in the PL doing the same to City?
The only thing they seem to be doing as an individual club is boycotting Barcelona's VIP box. Not sure anyone will really care out that to be honest.
But they've at least spoken out and shown some form of discontent. Meanwhile, teams here are losing titles to a club that is cheating and keeping completely schtum when they should be putting pressure on the powers that be to act and not have this farce continue unabated, and even celebrated like it's the best thing to happen to the league.
Thats because most fans are secretly wishing their own clubs would get taken over by Oligarchs spend obscene amount of legal nd illegal funds and just win
We saw the number of Man Utd fans twerking hard for Saudi
Do you really expect Chelsea, Newcastle fans to rally against City when they are in similar boat
We saw the number of Man Utd fans twerking hard for Saudi
Do you really expect Chelsea, Newcastle fans to rally against City when they are in similar boat
My solution was for every team to come together and agree to only play reserves against City. Cheapen their wins to the point it’s not worth it and celebrate number 2 as champions.
Or the PL just punishes them appropriately
Because of the veiled threats that Guardiola and Mubarak have made concerning legal action. When asked about it in interviews, Guardiola says 'We know who they are and won't forget' or something like that. I can't understand it, they are banged to rights and the media are treating them like gods. Mind you, they treat the media at the Emptyhad apparently with free roast dinners according to Makk Lawrenson. Dodgy club with dodgy nouveau fans.
Yes that's true. What I don't understand is why the Spanish clubs don't insist on the TV money being shared out more fairly, or vote Real & Barca out of the league. Unless I'm out of date again and it is.
Didn't teams in England write to UEFA asking to have City expelled from the CL. I'd say that's clearly stating their position.
For nearly every team if they deal with City, they are just replaced with someone else with lots of money. So why bother?
No they asked for the ban delay to stop.
It feels better when the lots of money is "organically earned"
Ask Bournemouth fans, they'd much rather United beat them 6-1 than City. Feels better
I bet they say better us than them, but still bad.
I really don't see how that is much of an argument, they dislike us both.
A rather dim view of your fellow football fans.
When were Man Utd fans twerking hard for Saudi? Are you confusing Man Utd with Newcastle Utd?
Well there were quite a few on these forums.
From what I've heard from a few people that have been, the match day offerings for kids and families is excellent. So I'd imagine the media get treated well too, hence why they rarely ever speak bad about them.
As for Pep, he knows his legacy is tainted, Barca bribing refs and now with City, all the financial doping, buying his brother a club etc etc.. I'd imagine he only stayed the last time because they made it impossible for him to leave.
Why? As far as im aware Man Utd have never been in any way linked with Saudi Arabia
Football isn’t what it used to be, certainly not the premier league, City’s profile and the type of players they can buy keeps eyes on the league which ultimately means more revenue for every club in it.
I don’t think rivalries really exist like fans would like them to, even players from different teams are all mates now, I’m sure that “rival clubs” are the same really
I don’t think rivalries really exist like fans would like them to, even players from different teams are all mates now, I’m sure that “rival clubs” are the same really
The Saudis passed on partial ownership shortly before ramping things up with Newcastle.
They‘ve tainted the league/game.
Teams like Chelsea and Newcastle aren't exactly going to start making noises when it would be equivalent to grassing up your neighbour for illegally building a second house in their back garden, when you're half way through building your own one.
A few others probably have their own little secrets they don't want anyone casting a closer eye over. Then the smaller teams I suspect just couldn't care less since they get screwed over either way.
The damage its done to the league is you can now have this team who wins it 3-4 times in a row, and no one cares because its so artificial there's no emotional investment attached to them. Back in the day it only took United, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. winning it once and they were the pantomine villains
A few others probably have their own little secrets they don't want anyone casting a closer eye over. Then the smaller teams I suspect just couldn't care less since they get screwed over either way.
The damage its done to the league is you can now have this team who wins it 3-4 times in a row, and no one cares because its so artificial there's no emotional investment attached to them. Back in the day it only took United, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. winning it once and they were the pantomine villains
Think a big issue for the PL is that it might seriously damage the league's reputation, in this instance everyone in the league ends up losing (money). This is also probably the reason these charges are dragging on forever without any kind of conclusion in sight, the league trying to figure out how to deal with City without the reputation damage, if they can't then nothing will end up happening with the charges I think.
Right, I mean a team like Villa can't regularly outspend Liverpool, United, Arsenal, etc. no matter what. But with City in the picture they can not win the league AND get paid 100 million pounds for Jack Grealish
There were news of Man Utd with Saudi some years back
And now with the Qatari Sheikh Jassim, half the United fans I know wanted Glazers to accept the Qatari bid
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It's back on dated march
Bayern fans included?
City spends just as much as us. Arsenal and Liverpool is close behind.
City just has the knack of signing very good players. Maybe they have better scouts.
Liverpool and Arsenal also have decent scouts.
City just has the knack of signing very good players. Maybe they have better scouts.
Liverpool and Arsenal also have decent scouts.
I don't think it's the scouts, they just have a proper structure in place. If you put aside that they are cheating cnuts, it's hard to deny that they have a system in place that is primarily there to produce results on the pitch and not in the bank. A proper DOF, and all above him up to the owner seek success on the pitch above everything else. Here we have spent a decade trying to find the next SAF that will handle all the things related to football and we won't, it's obvious now. It's time we create a structure around our manager that will lead the club in the right direction, because managers are changed often in modern football and we can't reset everytime we replace him.
They spend more, hence the charges. That knack is off shore bank accounts that unimportant employees such as Pep have..
Maybe they pay half the fees and salaries through shell companies, and so magically always sign who they want to sign, for seemingly less than a rival would have to pay...
Mancini was paid more for a few days of work for the City owners than he was for a year as City manager. That's the kind of financing City uses. Look at the spending City declare, then double it, with half of it hidden from FFP. And for people like Guardiola, the City owners will buy his family La Liga as a plaything.
They will get what’s coming to them.
As I understand, City are not facing any charges for being state owned. So not sure how your point is relevant.
It’s not even hidden from FFP. They’ve refused to release records to FA over the last 3/4 years since it could be used in the investigation against them so nobody is seeing these numbers. It’s one of their 115 charges
No they won't
An interesting watch, particularly when CAS got involved
pretty damning…if not sensationalised
even a blue must feel some shame watching this
pretty damning…if not sensationalised
even a blue must feel some shame watching this